Anyone know about cargo costs on Indian trains?

#1 Aug 27th, 2004, 16:01
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Does anyone know of, or have had experience with freighting motorcycles on the Indian rail system? Costs? Problems?

I might need to transport 5 MX 250s from Mumbai to Pune and then down to Goa and back to Mumbai.

It would be a huge help if someone can point me in the right direction.
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You can book it on the parcel van.Most trains in IR has parcel van for this purpose.

EXPLANATORY NOTES ON PARCEL

1. All types of commodities, including Luggage, will be charged uniformally at the same rates, under four different Scales, depending on the type of service.

2.The four Scales for different Parcel rates and the four types of Parcel services are as under: -

Scale
Type of Service
Type of Train

Scale-R Rajdhani Parcel Service All Rajdhani Express trains
Scale-P Premier Parcel Service Notified Mail/Express Trains*
Scale-S Standard Parcel Service Other Mail/Express trains, all Shatabdi Express trains and Parcel Express trains
Scale-E Economy Parcel Service Ordinary Passenger trains

* Such trains will be notified by the Zonal Railways for Up and Down directions separately.

3. Newspapers and Magazines will be charged at same rates, under the lowest Scale-E, by all trains.

4. Minimum distance for charge for all parcels, except registered Newspapers and Magazines, will be 50 kilometers and the minimum charge will be Rs.30.00.

5. Minimum distance for charge for the registered Newspapers and Magazines will be 250 kilometers and the minimum charge will be Rs.2.00.

6. The maximum permissible weight and dimensions of any package/article which can be accepted for booking, except by previous arrangement, are as under:-


Maximum Weight
Maximum Dimensions

Broad Gauge 150 kgs 1.0 meters X 1.5 meters X 1.25 meters
Meter Gauge 150 kgs 2.0 meters X 1.5 meters X 1.25 meters
Narrow Gauge 125 kgs 1.5 meters X 1.07 meters X 1.00 meters

7.Parcels will be charged either by actual weight or by weight derived on volumetric basis, which ever is higher. For this purpose, each 28.00 cubic decimeters of volume, or its fraction, will be equivalent to 4.00 kilograms.

8. Any package whose weight exceeds 100 kilograms or whose outside measurements exceed 1.0 meter X 1.0 meter X 0.7 meter will be treated as bulky article and charged at double the normal rates. However, a tolerance of 10% in any one outside dimension is permissible provided its weight on volumetric basis does not exceed 100 kilograms.

For rates log on to http://www.indianrailways.gov.in/
Then check Parcel Rates 2003-04 under "Freight Information Head "
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thanks for the quick reply. That already helps a lot. I checked out the link, but couldn't find the Freight Information Head.

I did check this though the "Inter change data for the calculation of Wagon Hirecharges", but couldn't make anything out of the numbers really.

Should I use an agent to handle the cargo? The agents usually have their own corner at the station; Right? It's just that the bikes have to arrive at the destinations without big delays (of more then a day).

I though trucking the bikes might be an option, but I'm scared of the load getting into an accident and becoming a burnt out heap at the side of the road.
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The link is working. Just log on to this & follow the steps
http://www.indianrailways.gov.in/

1)On the leftern side of the page will find list of broad heads
a)About Indian Railways
b)Network Map
c)Passenger Information
d)Freight Information . Roll over your mouse over this button/head & you will find new sub heads:-i)Freight charges ii)location of booking points iii)claims freight iv)parcel rate 2003-2004. Click this parcel rate for charges.

You can allways ask the agent to transport your bike ,they will charge you but will be hassle free.
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Strange, that side bar wasn't there last time
Thanks!

According to the site I can transport anything from beedi leaves to "bones". Not much on motorcycles, or at least I'm not seeing it.

Maybe someone out there can give me the contact info to a good trustworthy transportation agent...
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Are you traveling by the same train that carries your bike? If that is the case you can book the bike under the ‘luggage’ category. Or else it is called parcel. I will highly recommend the luggage category if it is possible. It is more or less in line with the check in luggage concept of a passenger plane. All the passenger trains have something called break van at the end of the train. You can carry the jumbo-sized luggage here.

There are a few advantages in booking the bike as luggage (means, you also travel by the same train). You can personally supervise the loading and unloading of the bike. Delivery is fast unlike the parcel, which may take even week to arrive. And it is more reliable.

For booking luggage in the break van….

1.You should have a valid ticket by the same train.
2.Arrive at the station well in advance (about 2 hours). This is because at times the break van gets over booked. In that case they’ll ask you to book by the next train as parcel.
3.The bike needs to be packed. There are people at the luggage booking office (usually at a corner near the platform) to do this for a charge (about 50-200rs depends on the place). The lamps and the fuel tanks have to be covered. Do not bring a bike with full tank petrol in it. Theoretically the fuel tank should be empty. A little bit of petrol (enough to reach the next fuel station) however is practically allowed. Never put the handle lock on, lock only the ignition .See to that the bike can be rolled on the wheels (not engine on).
4.You may need some kind of NOC if you are moving it from one state to another. I’m not sure if they insist on this for bikes. For cars this is a must.

The moment you reach there with a bike a number of porters (in red shirt) will cover you. They’ll start telling you the rates. You can’t avoid them easily. But they are required to be paid to pack move it around for weighing loading etc. The best way is to go to the station some days earlier and do preliminary enquiry at the same booking counter. Ask them for the approximate cost. Then later when you come with the bike you’ll actually know the situation. You may need to pay about 100 to 300 rs for these people for packing and loading in addition to the luggage fee. Start your negotiation from Rs50

Alternatively there are many ‘Packers& Movers’ of vehicles house holds etc. They’ll do everything and deliver the bike at your place. You need not have to worry about if they transport by train or truck etc. My gut feeling is that they may charge you something like 1000rs for for a bike.

www.yellowpages.co.in - Select City Mumbai and search under business heading 'Packers & Movers'.
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I shipped a machine a short distance with extreme trepidation having shipped a bicycle with disasterous consequences. It arrived intact. Drain the tank. Of course, if you carry with you a vial of gasoline it is quite illegal (metal with secure cap). I recall having to make cardboard signs for the deal. I was trying to cut my risk exposure down from commuting to a distant town..
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Sorry all, havn't had time to read the replies, just had an idea though.


Mumbai - Pune - Mumbai by hired truck could be an option, the roads between Mumbai and Pune are said to be some of the newest/best/fastest in India, then Mumbai - Goa - Mumbai by ferry/catamaran (if it's still sailing)

I doubt this would be an option at the time of the monsoon though.
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Hi everyone,

thanks a lot for the info. I really appreciate the feedback. I am thinking to hire a security/watchman to go with the bikes from stop to stop by train.

Do you reckon that one could fit 5 MX 250s into the normal baggage section of the train?? I will have a carnet for the import and export deal.
Do I have to apply for local Indian documentation as well?

I'm starting to freak a bit- the whole task seems quite daunting really. Maybe it would just be easier to have a truck on standby for the whole time as Steven-Ber suggested.

At the moment the whole thing is in the concept phase. I just need to check the prices and see if the whole thing is financially possible to swing for me.

I'll keep you guys updated on the whole thing. I'm still keeping the tour a bit secret at the moment

Again, thanks for the help.
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Car as cargo / luggage

Hello All
Is it possible to carry a Maruti 800 car on Rajdhani from Delhi till Mumbai.
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not higher normaly they charges rs 500 for byke.

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Hi,
never......you should go with car carrier service like Maruti car carrier. they are also sending old old cars. i have used car carrier service its very good. but now i hav'nt contact details. you can call to justdial or sulekha.com is best for that.

cheers...
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Shipping Parcel Bangalore to Delhi

I am planning to ship two suitcases from Bangalore to Delhi (about 70 pounds each), and am hoping to do so on the train. Is anyone currently familiar with doing this? I was planning on traveling on the train but now that won't be possible -- not enough time.

Anyway, it seems possible, I just had a few questions.

1. Is it safe from theft? I've heard the cars are open and there's a good chance of stuff getting stolen.
2. Packaging. I was also told they have to be wrapped in a special cloth and sewn closed? Is this true? Is the office mentioned in the old posts above who would do that for me?
3. Does anyone know if the shipping office (or whoever I talk to?) is open on weekends?

I found the costs on the India rail site -- quite cheap, actually! But not if I lose everything in the process.

Anything else I need to know?
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