where do you live??

maverick · Jun 14th, 2004, 19:39

hii

i hope you all will find this interesting here is the list of 144 expensive cities .
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mumbai (bombay) - 109
delhi -116
chennai(madras) _ 132
Bangalore _ 137
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tokyo - 1
london - 2
new york -12
paris -16
shanghai -17
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here are the links:

http://www.rediff.com/money/2004/jun/14tab.htm

http://us.rediff.com/money/2004/jun/14cost.htm

so where do you live ?

some Canadian cities are ranked cheaper than Bombay and Delhi but i still think Canadians find India cheaper than Canada (the tourists). Any comments?

Tomi · Jun 15th, 2004, 10:00

I have always found these classifications silly for a simple reason:
They pick a set of standards and measure them in every city--like the things an American businessman relocating to Istanbul might want. I remember reading one such classification once where they included the price of a salad, a Honda Civic, a man's business suit, and even a private American school!

Different cities should be judged by how one spends the money in that city. If public transportation is how people get around, so be it. That's not how people get around in Austin, Texas or Phoenix, Arizona. Nobody eats salad in Hong Kong. And you can't just compare the cost of the Hyatt in Delhi with the Hyatt in Boston and call that a valid comparison because Boston doesn't offer cheap places to stay.

The thought that Mumbai is more expensive than Pittsburgh or Montreal is laughable.

aghori · Jun 15th, 2004, 10:45

Strange to find 2 Russian capitals and Kiev among the top.
It doesn't coincide with my travel experience of being in Europe-USA. And also with normal salaries and living wage in Russia and Ukraine.

Seems that the journalist stayed in top hotels there, that only foreigners can afford, well, restaurants are expansive there. Shop prices varify. But they are expansive compare to the rest of country.

ashish0608 · Jun 15th, 2004, 10:49

I have lived in Delhi and Mumbai and found Delhi costlier than Mumbai..maybe life-style has changed also plus my daughter started going to school in Delhi.

So find there no way you can make use of this data which is based on some indexes which comprise of some fixed things egges, potatos, accomodation, travel etc etc...(like Tomi has said.."noone eats salad in Hong Kong")

And then wages are different in different cities.

beach · Jun 15th, 2004, 11:02

That Panwallah and Panipuri walla at Powai (suburb Bambay) earns more than three times what a doctor with a small clinic earns in a small town like Varkala or Mettupalayam or Belur.

We need a ‘happiness index’, that is, which people are more peaceful (to themselves) and happy. Or do we already have one??

guerik · Jun 15th, 2004, 11:09

Is it based on cost of living vs. average salary or something? If it's true that it's more expensive to live in Sydney than LA, I would move there for a while just to check it out..

Beach: Shows where everyone's priorities are, doesn't it

If there was a reliable way of working out which city has the happiest inhabitants, I'd move to their recommended city immediately!

ashish0608 · Jun 15th, 2004, 11:21

Quote:

If there was a reliable way of working out which city has the happiest inhabitants, I'd move to their recommended city immediately!

Guerik..in that case you will have to be shifting every year, as every year Utopia city #1 will be different based on Beach's "Happiness Index"

..a good thaught Beach!

I think: Happiness = Expectation - (minus) Realisation

I don't think it has anything to do with city

guerik · Jun 15th, 2004, 11:34

Since I finished school (on average) I've lived in a different city every year anyway (coming back through the same cities every once in a while though), so I could definitely deal with that -
In fact it would make me even happier to do so!

aghori · Jun 15th, 2004, 16:13

"noone eats salad in Hong Kong"

I don't see a reason why not, if one is a strict vegetarian.

Especially since it seems so hard to find purely vegetarian food in Chinese restraunts, at least in my experience.

"We need a ‘happiness index’, that is, which people are more peaceful (to themselves) and happy."

It would not be cities. The less civilization, the happier people.

The thread made me think.. I know some people both in Russia and West, who just lease their flat and go traveling to India for a year or so.
Is it practical in India to rent one's flat/house to someone and go to travel abroad?

volga_volga · Jun 15th, 2004, 16:23

Quote:

Originally posted by beach
We need a ‘happiness index’, that is, which people are more peaceful (to themselves) and happy.

i think this is what attracts me to India. people seem to be in peace with themselves and everything that surrounds them. i love watching indian families travelling together. (i am glad i see so many of them so far from india.) i find even their mere presence reassuring... that everything in this world has its purpose, and even bad things happen for a reason.

pooch · Jun 15th, 2004, 16:41

Beach, there is a happiness index and I think Bangladesh comes first or second.

Alan D · Jun 15th, 2004, 16:56

There's an annual survey done by Mercer Human Resources Consulting which rates cities on a quality of life basis.

These are the results from 2003

Cost is only one of the factors most people would consider if they were re-locating.

rab · Jun 15th, 2004, 20:41

How the hell is Glasgow number 41 in the world?

You can get a pudding supper for about one pound fifty, a bottle o' Buckie for I don't know less than a fiver I guess, and an all day ticket on the buses, ferries and trains for less than a fiver too. And the museums and that are all free. So how is it number 41?

rab

indiadreamn · Jun 16th, 2004, 07:45

I'm shocked that Ottawa is only number 124 on the list. It's bloody expensive living here, but I am making peanuts for money... that could be the reason

julieellen · Jun 16th, 2004, 08:29

i live in just outside of washington, d.c. and it majorly expensive to live here. housing has more than doubled in my neighborhood is about two years, and most people who live here could not afford to buy their own house right now. everything is expensive, but i suppose you get used to it because we aren't "rich" or anything like that.

happiness is truly what is in your heart. it should be that each individual should make themselves happy on their own regardless of surroundings. like the movie "life is beautiful." lovely film.

i don't think that can always be reality though. maybe it is immature if it's not true, but it's honest. we want to relocate to a state where the weather doesn't get cold and the summer isn't hazy, hot, and humid (also known as summer in d.c.). we think of moving to san diego, arizona, florida, etc. it should be easy and we would be much happier. lots of excuses: our daughter and schools, taking her away from extended family, finances, etc, etc. excuses and reality at the same time.

no place is perfect...in the meantime we find happiness in the joy of living and we are grateful for everything we have.

julie

Jun 15th, 2004, 20:41	#13
rab Honorary Mod Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: McLaren Vale, South Australia Posts: 1,214	How the hell is Glasgow number 41 in the world? You can get a pudding supper for about one pound fifty, a bottle o' Buckie for I don't know less than a fiver I guess, and an all day ticket on the buses, ferries and trains for less than a fiver too. And the museums and that are all free. So how is it number 41? rab __________________ IndiaMike Mod Team (The Honorary One)

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Jun 14th, 2004, 19:39	#1
maverick Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PARIS Posts: 24	where do you live?? hii i hope you all will find this interesting here is the list of 144 expensive cities . ---------------------------------------------------------------- mumbai (bombay) - 109 delhi -116 chennai(madras) _ 132 Bangalore _ 137 ------------------------------------------------------------------- tokyo - 1 london - 2 new york -12 paris -16 shanghai -17 ----------------------------------------------------------------- here are the links: http://www.rediff.com/money/2004/jun/14tab.htm http://us.rediff.com/money/2004/jun/14cost.htm so where do you live ? some Canadian cities are ranked cheaper than Bombay and Delhi but i still think Canadians find India cheaper than Canada (the tourists). Any comments? Last edited by indiamike : Jun 15th, 2004 at 04:42.

Jun 15th, 2004, 10:00	#2
Tomi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cambridge, MA, USA Posts: 449	I have always found these classifications silly for a simple reason: They pick a set of standards and measure them in every city--like the things an American businessman relocating to Istanbul might want. I remember reading one such classification once where they included the price of a salad, a Honda Civic, a man's business suit, and even a private American school! Different cities should be judged by how one spends the money in that city. If public transportation is how people get around, so be it. That's not how people get around in Austin, Texas or Phoenix, Arizona. Nobody eats salad in Hong Kong. And you can't just compare the cost of the Hyatt in Delhi with the Hyatt in Boston and call that a valid comparison because Boston doesn't offer cheap places to stay. The thought that Mumbai is more expensive than Pittsburgh or Montreal is laughable.

Jun 15th, 2004, 10:45	#3
aghori Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Russia/Goverdhan Posts: 189	Strange to find 2 Russian capitals and Kiev among the top. It doesn't coincide with my travel experience of being in Europe-USA. And also with normal salaries and living wage in Russia and Ukraine. Seems that the journalist stayed in top hotels there, that only foreigners can afford, well, restaurants are expansive there. Shop prices varify. But they are expansive compare to the rest of country.

Jun 15th, 2004, 10:49	#4
ashish0608 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Delhi Posts: 353	I have lived in Delhi and Mumbai and found Delhi costlier than Mumbai..maybe life-style has changed also plus my daughter started going to school in Delhi. So find there no way you can make use of this data which is based on some indexes which comprise of some fixed things egges, potatos, accomodation, travel etc etc...(like Tomi has said.."noone eats salad in Hong Kong") And then wages are different in different cities.

Jun 15th, 2004, 11:02	#5
beach Lost in translation Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: India ! Posts: 2,232	That Panwallah and Panipuri walla at Powai (suburb Bambay) earns more than three times what a doctor with a small clinic earns in a small town like Varkala or Mettupalayam or Belur. We need a ‘happiness index’, that is, which people are more peaceful (to themselves) and happy. Or do we already have one??

Jun 15th, 2004, 11:09	#6
guerik Maha Guru Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,039	Is it based on cost of living vs. average salary or something? If it's true that it's more expensive to live in Sydney than LA, I would move there for a while just to check it out.. Beach: Shows where everyone's priorities are, doesn't it If there was a reliable way of working out which city has the happiest inhabitants, I'd move to their recommended city immediately!

Jun 15th, 2004, 11:34	#8
guerik Maha Guru Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,039	Since I finished school (on average) I've lived in a different city every year anyway (coming back through the same cities every once in a while though), so I could definitely deal with that - In fact it would make me even happier to do so!

Jun 15th, 2004, 16:13	#9
aghori Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Russia/Goverdhan Posts: 189	"noone eats salad in Hong Kong" I don't see a reason why not, if one is a strict vegetarian. Especially since it seems so hard to find purely vegetarian food in Chinese restraunts, at least in my experience. "We need a ‘happiness index’, that is, which people are more peaceful (to themselves) and happy." It would not be cities. The less civilization, the happier people. The thread made me think.. I know some people both in Russia and West, who just lease their flat and go traveling to India for a year or so. Is it practical in India to rent one's flat/house to someone and go to travel abroad?

Jun 15th, 2004, 16:41	#11
pooch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Middle East <---->India Posts: 384	Beach, there is a happiness index and I think Bangladesh comes first or second.

Jun 15th, 2004, 16:56	#12
Alan D Maha Guru Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Southampton UK Posts: 1,869	There's an annual survey done by Mercer Human Resources Consulting which rates cities on a quality of life basis. These are the results from 2003 Cost is only one of the factors most people would consider if they were re-locating.

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Jun 16th, 2004, 07:45	#14
indiadreamn There's Waffle in em! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 98	I'm shocked that Ottawa is only number 124 on the list. It's bloody expensive living here, but I am making peanuts for money... that could be the reason

Jun 16th, 2004, 08:29	#15
julieellen Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: maryland, usa Posts: 52	i live in just outside of washington, d.c. and it majorly expensive to live here. housing has more than doubled in my neighborhood is about two years, and most people who live here could not afford to buy their own house right now. everything is expensive, but i suppose you get used to it because we aren't "rich" or anything like that. happiness is truly what is in your heart. it should be that each individual should make themselves happy on their own regardless of surroundings. like the movie "life is beautiful." lovely film. i don't think that can always be reality though. maybe it is immature if it's not true, but it's honest. we want to relocate to a state where the weather doesn't get cold and the summer isn't hazy, hot, and humid (also known as summer in d.c.). we think of moving to san diego, arizona, florida, etc. it should be easy and we would be much happier. lots of excuses: our daughter and schools, taking her away from extended family, finances, etc, etc. excuses and reality at the same time. no place is perfect...in the meantime we find happiness in the joy of living and we are grateful for everything we have. julie