'Visa-on-arrival' in India soon

Rob_The_Pom

Read Shere's previous posts on the subject for Germany.
And mine about Spain.

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shere

Basque separatists operated across French/Spanish border. With bases stradling the border.

As for terror organisations in Germany, have a read of : http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articl...,655,1701,2164

The evidence presented to extradite Mirchi and Nadeem was something a child could have put together. Indian should sort its police forces out so they can produce adequate extradtion papers. Mirchi and Nadeem's defence teams used the usual "no justice for minorities in India strategy" in court which if you look at the misrable failure of the Indian state in the case of the 3000+ Sikhs killed in the aftermatch of Indira Gandhis assasination is true.

Rob_The_Pom

I'm also waiting to find out what an ethnic British is?
I don't really think such a thing exists.

Where this argument that Britain is not included on the list because of terrorism falls down most clearly though is quite simple. Why, with maybe, just maybe the possible exception of a US passport, can I enter more countries on Earth without a visa using my British passport than any passport? (Not that I've got any other passports).
Surely, if we were such a threat then many more countries would be imposing visas on us.

Aristocat

Basque separatists do not harm India. If they operate across the French/Spanish border, then those two countries should sort it out. As I mentioned, living in a country discreetly and openly opening up an office and collecting funds are vastly different. It is strange that a law abiding citizen of India gets restricted leave to stay in the UK while a criminal lives there indefinitely.

Aristocat

By ethnic British I mean one whose roots are in the UK. The reason you can enter more countries on Earth without a visa on a UK passport is because those countries are not affected by terrorist organisations sheltered by the UK Govt. Even if they are, it is their business. Since India is affected by these organisations, it becomes India's business, and you need a visa.
If in the future, the nationals of a particular visa friendly country use the UK to start activities detrimental to the interests of that country, you will most likely need a visa to go there too.

Rob_The_Pom

Now I'm getting really irritated.

You have still failed to answer how the UK is different to Germany or Spain in terms of being a 'haven' for terrorists - as is outlined in the link provided by Shere.

Nick-H

Whilst many IM threads go way off-topic to good purpose, or at least, entertainment value, this one really has gone to far in a direction that is just plain silly!

Whilst we, in UK have laws against filling ones houses with weapons (or even carrying just one on the street) we remain (up to now, at least) a country of free speech and free political opinion. We are also a country that has shown some hospitality (again, at least in the past) to the endangered and displaced of the world.

We are not (yet) a police state but will prosecute crime where it is found. Our current problems (which are harldly limited to UK) are well-know to the world.

As RTP said: All this has got nothing whatsoever to do with visas for Brits to enter India and I, for one, give up on this thread...

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Rob_The_Pom

Well said Nick.

I think it's just been used as thread for certain people to have a pop at Britain.

shere

Exactly. If terrorists from Pakistan are operating in India then let these two countries sort it out. On the one hand India blames Pakistan (ISI) for arming the terorists on the other hand people in this thread are making unfounded accusations that people in GB are financing these organisations.

If you know more, then please let the UK authorities know by telephoning them on 0800 789 321 http://www.met.police.uk/counter_terrorism/hotline.htm

Aristocat

Happens when you run out of valid argument.

Count me out. Having grown up on Enid Blyton, Richmal Compton, P G Wodehouse and the like, I am quite attached to the UK. I deepened my attachment by studying and living there for several years although most of my close friends went to the US. Today, the UK is my second favourite country after my own, India and I visit there very often. The UK is perceived as a very friendly country by Indians and so the incomprehension and sadness when organisations harming India are given shelter there.

Aristocat

Pakistani nationals are scrutinised the most when applying for an Indian visa.
And my previous links are enough to say whether the accusations are founded or unfounded. I have not written those articles. Some of them are in renowned publications like the Washington Post and Time.

Aristocat

Indian laws are no different. We are also a free country with free speech and free political opinion. We have shown more hospitality than we can afford to millions of Tibetans and Bangladeshis. The point is that you have offered hospitality to people who have harmed my country and are NOW harming your country. China may offer the same argument that India has sheltered a religious head wanted there but as of today, none of his followers have harmed my country.

Rob_The_Pom

Yeah right. It comes from not dealing with one in the first place. The whole point of the thread was visas on arrival, and someone asked why not Britain. I'm not going to repeat myself, and I'm sure Shere won't as well, but the case you've made just doesn't hold water.

I was hoping this thread had died, but there we go.

Aristocat

As far as the Indian Govt. is concerned it does. Hence, no visas on arrival. At least for now.

Rob_The_Pom

I think you know as well as I do that that isn't anything to do with the visa decision.