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Old Aug 10th, 2005, 01:11   #46
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http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en...t+groups&meta=

Check the following which mentions "Germany appears to harbor a greater number of active terrorist cells than any other Western European country."

http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articl...,655,1701,2164

You can type whatever you want into google and find a site about it.
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You can type whatever you want into google and find a site about it.
Hear hear there is a down side to the Oracle known as the internet, or as it's known in the north of England t'internet
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You saying the staff at HCI London are well trained ? .
Bongdongs has already said that he actually doesn't know anything about what happens at HCI London, thus rendering his entire argument, other than his personal opinions of UK, invalid.

Everyone is entitled to their personal opinions...
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Old Aug 10th, 2005, 03:33   #50
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If I can summarize, this is how I see it:

1. Terrorist violence directed against India receives ideological, financial and political support in Britian, this is my opinion, yes. Now I see that this opinion is regarded by many here as to be not based in fact.

2. People who have extensively dealt with the Indian high commission in London regard its decision making as arbitrary and its personell as incompetent. If this is a case, it calls for a change in people and procedures.

3. Indian immigration is today unprepared to deal with large numbers of "visa on arrival", ideally there should be a large investment in this area, but I do not see it happening soon.
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Now I see that this opinion is regarded by many here as to be not based in fact.
You can say that again.
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You can say that again.
you seem rather sure of yourself, what is your opinion of this article I posted earlier:

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... ... ... Terrorist violence directed against India receives ideological, financial and political support in Britian, this is my opinion, yes. ... ... ...
It really is very worrying to find that there is an American who thinks this... They'll be invading us next!
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Not UK? Why not UK I wonder? Something we said?
Well, how difficult is it for an Indian citizen to get a visa on arrival in the UK?

Same with the USA; you noticed that we're also not on that list! <sigh>
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http://www.google.co.in/search?hl=en...t+groups&meta=

Check the following which mentions "Germany appears to harbor a greater number of active terrorist cells than any other Western European country."

http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articl...,655,1701,2164

You can type whatever you want into google and find a site about it.
SIMI comprises Indians, not immigrants or foreigners. The Indian Govt. has not allowed the IRA, for example, to open an office in India. On the other hand, Al-Qa'ida (Usama Bin Laden network, or UBL network), the International Sikh Youth Federation (ISYF), the Babbar Khalsa International (BKI), the Harkatul Mujahideen (HM), the Jaish-e-Mohammed (JM), the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) and others all had some sort of infrastructure in the UK.
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Thumbs up Indonesia to start visa on arrival for Indians

New Delhi, July 8 (IANS) Indians travelling to Indonesia will soon get visa on arrival and can save a trip to the country's missions, a top minister from the Southeast Asian country said here Monday.

Indonesia will shortly introduce visa on arrival for Indian tourists and business leaders as part of efforts to forge strategic economic ties with New Delhi, Indonesian Trade Minister Mari Elka Pangestu told a business meeting.

http://www.eians.com/stories/2005/08/08/08sta.shtml

AND........................... ...............

Visa on Arrival (updated Feb. 2005)
Beginning February 1, 2004, the nationals of 21 countries will be able to obtain a "Visa on Arrival" processed at the gate of entry following the payment of an official fee.

The citizens of 21 countries and territories eligible to purchase visas on arrival are:
The United States, Australia, South Africa, Argentina, Brazil, Denmark, United Arab Emirates, Finland, Hungary, United Kingdom, Italy, Japan, Germany, Canada, South Korea, Norway, France, Poland, Switzerland, New Zealand, and Taiwan.

Countries Expected to be Added:
Based on recommendations made to the Government by the Ministry of Culture and Tourism, the following 11 countries may be added to the list of nations able to arrange visas on arrival: The Netherlands, Sweden, Russian Federation, People's Republic of China, India, Spain, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt, Belgium, and Portugal.

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SIMI comprises Indians, not immigrants or foreigners. The Indian Govt. has not allowed the IRA, for example, to open an office in India. On the other hand, Al-Qa'ida (Usama Bin Laden network, or UBL network), the International Sikh Youth Federation (ISYF), the Babbar Khalsa International (BKI), the Harkatul Mujahideen (HM), the Jaish-e-Mohammed (JM), the Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) and others all had some sort of infrastructure in the UK.
Just like the IRA who killed more than 1500 people had fundraisers in the USA (Noraid).

What has the GOI done about SIMI ? It just banned them. Similar to what the UK government has done with many of the organisations you have named.
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Just like the IRA who killed more than 1500 people had fundraisers in the USA (Noraid).

What has the GOI done about SIMI ? It just banned them. Similar to what the UK government has done with many of the organisations you have named.

My point is that SIMI is an Indian organisation comprising local members. India has not allowed any foreign organisation like the IRA to set up base within the country whereas the UK allowed all these foreign organisations to open offices and collect funds in the UK. There are very few, if any, ethnic British in these organisations. They comprise mostly immigrants or foreigners. The UK Govt. allowed foreign terrorist organisations to operate from within the UK.
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So, how is that different from Spain or Germany?
(And come to think of it most countries on the planet).

The argument that it is because of the UK Government 'allowing' terrorists to operate in the UK is so weak and full of holes it is untrue.
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So, how is that different from Spain or Germany?
(And come to think of it most countries on the planet).

The argument that it is because of the UK Government 'allowing' terrorists to operate in the UK is so weak and full of holes it is untrue.

If you could kindly enlighten me about foreign terrorist organisations operating in Spain/Germany, I would be grateful. ETA is Spanish and a local group not of foreign origin. Terrorists discreetly residing in a country is one thing but to open an office, collect funds and operate with impunity is quite different, which is what they do in the UK. Two wanted criminals, Nadeem, wanted for murder in India and Iqbal Mirchi, a drug lord, both enjoy considerable freedom in the UK. There may be more.
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