Serial bomb blasts in Ahmedabad

brishti

thats exactly my point.
the reason i find the blasts in bangalore, ahmedabad and earlier on in jaipur, chilling is - they're of the intensity that will not warrant front page international news.
so - these indiscriminate acts of terrorising can continue under cover of darkness - so to say.
it will keep provoking until it erupts - as the cap'n has pointed out and nick has commented on too ...

i was apprehensive that these incidents were a lead-up to a major catastrophe.
now i'm a-thinking - heck - they can/will continue to wreck continious havoc in them low-intensity explosions - till something gives.

this vendetta theory is all crap - just another way to stir up a hornets nest.

view them comments to the article in TOI.
its telling.

thank you jyotida for the link.



:brishti

rushie82

[crossposted with Brishti] Thats what the terrorists want us to believe. Notice the delibrate use of the word Indian Mujahidin. They have delibrately used low intensity, low tech bombs to make it look like ameturish work of some locals and start riots between communities here. They want us to become weak from inside.

Steven 170 Rs for a newspaper and they dont even mention it.

yogeonline

I dont think that these Terrorist organisation have any motive of revenge etc. so called. Who knows how many of the people died in blasts were Hindu or muslim or any religon.
These terrorists are just a bunch of useless, low on selfconfidence people who cant do good to themselves or to their families. so now they just wanted to feel good about that they have finally done something big.. stupids -even a simple one mile run can give this feeling of achievement to them "that ohh I have done something big today".
I am sure they will find some simple ways to please themselves soon, they will realise that they going to the wrong ways.

skk

Regarding reporting of this news in the West, I don't buy newspapers any more, I just look at them online. Of the many I've looked at today - The Telegraph, the (London) Times, the (New York) Times all have articles on the front page. The (Los Angeles) Times does not - you have to go the World section to find the article.

I wouldn't have expected either the Wall Street Journal or the Financial Times to have front page stories on this - they are different kind of papers; oddly the WSJ does have a front page story - the FT doesn't.

-skk

capt_mahajan

Update

Two cars packed with explosives found in Surat

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/two-cars...t/69694-3.html




And on the earlier Ahmedabad bomb blasts....


There were a total of 17 bombs in Ahmedabad, or so. Some claimed to be defused, too.

http://www.thestatesman.net/page.new...ss=1&id=215631

theyyamdancer

I have just read something on Sify news online about a High Alert in Kerala. What is going on now?

machadinha

No idea, but it may be just that the papers and/or officials are raking in & stacking up any rumor they can lay their hands on now. That article you're referring to (I think): http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14724863. (Not sure how permanent these articles nor links are, the article has already changed in the time it took me to write this short post. It was basically a sum-up of anything that might conceivably or has happened anywhere, with some weird and not-immediately-relevant-looking captions or at least to the text following those inbetween.)

Two more comments: Just because group X is reported to have claimed an attack doesn't mean such a report, nor the claim if there is one, is authentic of course.

(There were reports yesterday on a video circulating on the web by some militant organization, conveniently linked to the Uyghurs in Xinjiang whom China happens to have a problem with, promising attacks at the Olympics. Thing is while it was dutifully reported on [hey, it's news after all, isn't it], it was admitted even by the Chinese no one has ever heard of the organization in question. It did apparently serve to further step up their already draconian safety measures during the games, while their policies in and moves against Xinjiang barely get mentioned in the international press anyway, so who's to say what consequences it might have there.

And don't we hear of examples like these all the time. And even in the case of known organizations, anyone can claim to speak for some anonymous illegal group of course.)

Secondly, crude and simple bombs may just be deployed because they're, well, crude and simple to make and deploy.

Keep your heads together & take it easy on the speculating, I'd suggest.

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Brisso

Australian news also ignoring the Ahmedabad bombings. Lead story is on some bike rider in France ...

safari vala

the headlines on BBC Urdu world news on line are about the Ahmedabad bombings.
When it comes to bad news in the sub cont and western asia, BBC URDU are on to it in a hurry.
Most middle class Indians have no interest in anything excecpt western consumerism/materialism.Fooey on them, turning their back on true desi wisdom and culture.
I think N. Modi should be sent for a long holiday to The andaman islands.
He is a career pot stirrer and frankly is a hateful bigot.
Meanwhile Pakistan is the number one source of nutters willing to "die /kill in the name of Allah" which is scary and the world will have to wake up to this sooner than later.
The nut brigade in Pak. still want a Taliban 'gov.t' in Afghanistan and a proxy war with India. Without it what is the reason for Pak. to exist?Esp. since they lost in 1971 and Dhaka broke away .
I pray for peace everywhere, insh`Allah.

safari vala

the ozzie news is about a QANTAS plane that had an explosion and had to land in Manila.
Brown people dying in a some insignificant country like India is not newsworthy in jingoistic insular and sport mad Ozstriya.

machadinha

Doesn't really sound like it.

Of course, how wouldn't it be.

capt_mahajan

No. But if a group sends an email before the bombs....

Besides, if somebody claims something, it is stupid to ignore that claim.

Besides, pretending these organisations dont exist is the West's forte, not the Indians'.

Nick-H

BBC News -->World -->South Asia (Link valid today) features the bombing as lead story.

Typically, and pointing out the sterilisation of western news sources, the "Aftermath of the bombings in pictures" does not feature a single body (except one covered in flowers in a funeral): they have been on the front pages of Indian newspapers. Death is there; I think it should be shown.

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capt_mahajan

They have sanitised the Iraq war too, with embedded tourists, oops, journalists. It is frightening, how much the 'free' west media is controlled, between the governments and the murdochs, or both. India is getting there, too.

An independent guy who put up gory and realistic photographs of US soldiers recently on a website faced interesting times.

machadinha

If that is so, didn't this give time for them to be prevented or at least for the premises to be cleared? (This is a thing with ETA and IRA really, who in principle always announce their attacks. I'm not sure about the IRA, but with ETA and as far as I know any time this has screwed up it's because the authorities didn't act on it, or too slowly. With regards to public scares that is, I'm not talking about targeted assassinations and the likes.) Come on, surely you of all people don't fall for all the bungling-up the Indian authorities do on any of these actions. Seldom if ever do people get prosecuted let alone convicted I believe. (And yes folks, to have a cinema or so blown up was already fairly common if not exactly a daily occurrence say 1.5 decades ago, and long before it I believe.)

Certainly. It would be likewise unwise to take it for granted. States or private groups, whether state-affiliated or to the contrary, having a stake in keeping their population terrified through front organizations is not at all an uncommon or undocumented thing. What's funny is we always imagine this to happen "elsewhere," not in the civilized place where we live, lord forbid.

This should, of course, never be turned around to mean that "therefore" all such events must be staged, and they certainly won't be. It can never be ruled out however. The b*tch of the matter is you just don't know.

Political movements of whatever ilk would normally want to promote their goals and claim their actions no matter how drastic, and use them as a tactic in a much wider strategy and campaign. It is weird that (save for some local militant struggles) this is rarely the case with attacks like these in India. (I find it equally weird that it should now conveniently be the case that they do get claimed all of a sudden.)

Beyond that, fingers get pointed, accusations made, but as noted, normally with very few concrete results. It reminds me of that stupid way the American intelligence services tried to cover up their botch-up regarding 9/11: Oh, but we knew who they were all along! (And that within 24 hours or so.) Oh, really, smart guys, so why didn't you do something about it in the first place? And let's not forget some of the supposed apprehended culprits have been languishing in jails outside of international jurisdiction for 7 years now, and some of them have already been let free after years with no charges whatsoever. Even the International Court of Justice works more swiftly and more efficiently, and more democratically controlled of course no matter what its shortcomings.

See the above. I wasn't suggesting they don't exist; just that you have no way to tell who's doing what. Besides ethical considerations, it's one of my tactical objections against militant underground movements: They lose all public accountability, even to their supposed supporters, by virtue of their being underground. (And it leaves them wide open to infiltration precisely because of their secrecy.)

Maybe we should all re-read our 1984 by now. I think even Orwell might have been stunned how true that's all become.