Serial bomb blasts in Ahmedabad

Aishah · Jul 27th, 2008, 10:38

DD has news in English on the half hour generally - I think it's on the .30 e.g. 9.30 time. On the hour is news in Hindi.

skk · Jul 27th, 2008, 10:53

Just to increase the knowledge content here - for those really going to the back of beyond - All India Radio - Vividh Bharathi has a short-wave service and a satellite based service - they seem to call it DTH ( Direct To Home ); Looking at the spec I'm pretty sure they are referring to something that I call DVB-S( Direct Video Broadcasting - Satellite { as opposed to Terrestrial which would be DVB-T})

http://allindiaradio.org/

Auntie Beeb is of course always out there.

-skk

jyotirmoy · Jul 27th, 2008, 11:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by brishti

bangalore yesterday - ahmedabad today...

there is something quite unnerving about the 'low intensity' of the damage caused...
usually - incidents like these gain world attention because of the catastrophic end-result
just wondering - if this is a prelude to bigger blasts to follow.

like i said - its unnerving.

:brishti

Indian Mujahideen claims responsibility, Says more to come reads The Times of India front page.

capt_mahajan · Jul 27th, 2008, 11:36

Thats a SIMI front, links with HUJI in Bangladesh and ISI in Pakistan.

SIMI pushed them forward after they were banned themselves.

Makes sense. Two cities, 20 odd bombs, has to be organised.

Backlash against Indian Muslims is becoming a worrying possibility, I think.

For some members:

SIMI Students Islamic Movement of India, banned a few years ago after terrorist links
found and Pakistani funding/training

HUJI Bangladesh based and Pakistan funded/trained.
Harkat Ul Jihad Al Islami. Responsible for many of the
recent attacks, Hyderabad and Ajmer included.

ISI Inter Services Intelligence, Pakistani intelligence
services.

Munivar · Jul 27th, 2008, 12:12

Kiyani moved two divisions out of FATA citing that he needs them in the eastern border.

These attacks are probably planned to provoke/escalate tensions with India, providing opportunity for Pak to move troops out of NWFP and let the taliban a free pass to Afg and also let the bottled up anti-Indian jihadis loose on India, so they don't focus on bombing stuff in Pakistan.

We are seeing that bombings in Pakistan has gone down markedly, and increased infiltration across Durrand Line and LoC and attacks like these in "communally sensitive areas" and "economic centres" - just enough to escalate tensions with India, but not high-intensity major attacks to get India to actually go to war.

capt_mahajan · Jul 27th, 2008, 12:29

Infiltration of terrorists from Pakistan is always at the maximum outside of winter. Infiltration from Bangladesh is of course easier.

I foresee that as we get closer to elections in the US, and as that country becomes less focused on international events as a result, the Pakistani government and the ISI will have even less to worry about in terms of pressure from GWB. As it is, those heads are conveniently in the sand most of the time.

The failure is the Indian governments, though. And the more it is seen to be powerless, the more angry the Hindu right wing can afford to become; and they will wean away part of the majority of Hindu moderates who get angrier at the governments inaction with each incident.

Not good.

Aishah · Jul 27th, 2008, 15:02

Very worrying - thank you Capt. for explanation of SIMI etc. Helping me understand all these groups behind terrorist attacks. Such mindless deeds, (not in the minds of the terrorists, who have awful plans) and they don't care who is affected, whatever caste or creed. Horrible.

kullu gang · Jul 27th, 2008, 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by batistuta

Of course, at this juncture, politics should be the last thing on our minds. But, I wanted to mention that our Political leaders would stoop to any level to come back to power.

apparantly it was the indian mujahadin which is the a new name for groups that was outlawed by the indian goverment a few years ago they sent a chilling warning by email to a tv station sad that india is still a big target for these terror groups.

steven_ber · Jul 27th, 2008, 16:06

I paid £2.00 (Rs170) for the Sunday Times today, the Sunday Times is a popular broadsheet newspaper, I only bought the damn thing because I wanted to read about the Ahmedabad (& Bangalore) bombs, so how many column inches do you think they devoted to these blasts?

None, not a single word, disgusting.

Aishah · Jul 27th, 2008, 16:22

Annoying - the blasts were early evening last night (Sat.) here. You would think something would be there, the paper wouldn't have gone to print by that time already would it?

safari vala · Jul 27th, 2008, 16:42

Narenda modi's anti muslim witch hunt left thousands homeless and still missing their dead relatives.Things have not gone back to normal and some might have revenge on their minds.
The mainly muslim Bombay/Karachi /Dubai Mafia and the ISI could be involved.That is my theory.
It is dreadful no matter who is behind these acts of violence against innocent people.

Mickey S · Jul 27th, 2008, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven_ber

I paid £2.00 (Rs170) for the Sunday Times today, the Sunday Times is a popular broadsheet newspaper, I only bought the damn thing because I wanted to read about the Ahmedabad (& Bangalore) bombs, so how many column inches do you think they devoted to these blasts?

None, not a single word, disgusting.

It occupied a third of page 35 in today's Observer, although half of the space was taken up with a photograph.

It was the third item on BBC News at midnight last night, after extensive reports on Barack Obama's visit to the UK and Gordon Brown's domestic political problems.

The fact is that explosions in far-off, developing nations are generally newsworthy only when western tourists are involved. I'm not justifying that attitude, but it's the way it is.

capt_mahajan · Jul 27th, 2008, 17:01

I think the whole world is getting more insular.

Here in India, media coverage of international news is dwindling alarmingly. Except salacious or sensational news, of course.

I see more interest in the latest model of the cellphone than in international news in most middle class Indians.

Weird.

Aishah · Jul 27th, 2008, 17:06

You're right Capt. I never see much news of outside India on Indian new channels or in papers - very little about Australia or NZ. And vice versa - never heard or read anything much about India while I was over there. Have to keep up to date by reading papers from the country via internet.

capt_mahajan · Jul 27th, 2008, 17:13

Yesterday somebody told me he is well informed about important world events, yet admitted he doesnt know what is happening in Iran, and never did.

Was surprised when I told him that though I couldnt be sure, North India (where he lives) was probably closer to parts of Iran than Kanyakumari was.

Doesn't help that News is intentionally warped by media. THe stock market BSE going up 600 points at 20000 is headlines, but going down 600 points at 13000 is not, even though, as a percentage, the latter is a bigger number.

India has many Murdoch's behaving much like the original. News is now manipulated big time.

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skk Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Boulder CO, USA Posts: 529	Just to increase the knowledge content here - for those really going to the back of beyond - All India Radio - Vividh Bharathi has a short-wave service and a satellite based service - they seem to call it DTH ( Direct To Home ); Looking at the spec I'm pretty sure they are referring to something that I call DVB-S( Direct Video Broadcasting - Satellite { as opposed to Terrestrial which would be DVB-T}) http://allindiaradio.org/ Auntie Beeb is of course always out there. -skk

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capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,599	Thats a SIMI front, links with HUJI in Bangladesh and ISI in Pakistan. SIMI pushed them forward after they were banned themselves. Makes sense. Two cities, 20 odd bombs, has to be organised. Backlash against Indian Muslims is becoming a worrying possibility, I think. For some members: SIMI Students Islamic Movement of India, banned a few years ago after terrorist links found and Pakistani funding/training HUJI Bangladesh based and Pakistan funded/trained. Harkat Ul Jihad Al Islami. Responsible for many of the recent attacks, Hyderabad and Ajmer included. ISI Inter Services Intelligence, Pakistani intelligence services.

Jul 27th, 2008, 12:29	#36
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,599	Infiltration of terrorists from Pakistan is always at the maximum outside of winter. Infiltration from Bangladesh is of course easier. I foresee that as we get closer to elections in the US, and as that country becomes less focused on international events as a result, the Pakistani government and the ISI will have even less to worry about in terms of pressure from GWB. As it is, those heads are conveniently in the sand most of the time. The failure is the Indian governments, though. And the more it is seen to be powerless, the more angry the Hindu right wing can afford to become; and they will wean away part of the majority of Hindu moderates who get angrier at the governments inaction with each incident. Not good.

Jul 27th, 2008, 15:02	#37
Aishah She-who-must-be-obeyed! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jaisalmer Posts: 5,491	Very worrying - thank you Capt. for explanation of SIMI etc. Helping me understand all these groups behind terrorist attacks. Such mindless deeds, (not in the minds of the terrorists, who have awful plans) and they don't care who is affected, whatever caste or creed. Horrible.

Jul 27th, 2008, 16:22	#40
Aishah She-who-must-be-obeyed! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jaisalmer Posts: 5,491	Annoying - the blasts were early evening last night (Sat.) here. You would think something would be there, the paper wouldn't have gone to print by that time already would it?

Jul 27th, 2008, 16:42	#41
safari vala Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 235	Narenda modi's anti muslim witch hunt left thousands homeless and still missing their dead relatives.Things have not gone back to normal and some might have revenge on their minds. The mainly muslim Bombay/Karachi /Dubai Mafia and the ISI could be involved.That is my theory. It is dreadful no matter who is behind these acts of violence against innocent people.

Jul 27th, 2008, 17:01	#43
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,599	I think the whole world is getting more insular. Here in India, media coverage of international news is dwindling alarmingly. Except salacious or sensational news, of course. I see more interest in the latest model of the cellphone than in international news in most middle class Indians. Weird.

Jul 27th, 2008, 17:06	#44
Aishah She-who-must-be-obeyed! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jaisalmer Posts: 5,491	You're right Capt. I never see much news of outside India on Indian new channels or in papers - very little about Australia or NZ. And vice versa - never heard or read anything much about India while I was over there. Have to keep up to date by reading papers from the country via internet.

Jul 27th, 2008, 17:13	#45
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,599	Yesterday somebody told me he is well informed about important world events, yet admitted he doesnt know what is happening in Iran, and never did. Was surprised when I told him that though I couldnt be sure, North India (where he lives) was probably closer to parts of Iran than Kanyakumari was. Doesn't help that News is intentionally warped by media. THe stock market BSE going up 600 points at 20000 is headlines, but going down 600 points at 13000 is not, even though, as a percentage, the latter is a bigger number. India has many Murdoch's behaving much like the original. News is now manipulated big time.

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