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Mr. Badboy :D
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When they say 'Boil' its not because of the natural heat this summer. Read On.
NEW DELHI: The Rajasthan government on Thursday sought additional help from the Centre in view of the deteriorating law and order situation in the state over the Gujjar community’s protests demanding Scheduled Tribe status. The Home Secretary is learnt to have briefed the PMO on the situation. Para-military forces have been dispatched and DG CRPF has been summoned for a status report on the situation. The Gujjars have called for a bandh in many cities of Rajasthan on Thursday. According to reports, the Army took control of the Delhi-Jaipur highway and conducted a flag march in Patauli, where the row has its origin. There were reports of police posts being burnt in Jhalawar and a police station being attacked in Pushkar city. A mediaperson who was attacked by an iron rod in Ajmer by an irate mob, has been admitted to the hospital with a fracture in his leg. The Jaipur-Bharatpur highway has also been blocked at different places. Bus and train service to Jaipur and Ahmedabad have also been affected. Meanwhile, the Indian Railways on Thursday cancelled 23 trains to and from Rajasthan and rescheduled one more as clashes turned violent. The Sarai Raohilla-Porbander Express, Bareilly-Bhuj Express, Ahmedabad-Ashram Express, Jaiselmer-Intercity Express, Ahmedabad Rajdhani, Nizamuddin-Udaipur Mewar Express and Mumbai Rajdhani were among the trains cancelled since Thursday morning. Arterial highways were also blocked leaving hundreds stranded. Agra, home to the Taj Mahal, Jaipur and New Delhi form the most visited tourism circuit in India, called the Golden Triangle. The protests have choked the highways linking Jaipur with the two other cities. Reports of protesters torching government properties and vehicles have come in from Kota, Sawai Madhopur and Dausa, where the trouble started on Tuesday. The death toll in the violence has touched 17 and at least seven policemen have been reported missing. Source : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...ow/2088859.cms |
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I am presently in Jaipur all by myself and trust me..its too bad..I ahve to go to office (by public transport) and its huse risk I ahve to undertake.. worst is I am moving out fo this place and was scheduled to go to Dilli on sunday the 03rd but seeing the road & train conditions I really dont knwo how I'd manage shifting so much stuff from this city to another...
My family being very far are extremely worried.. this makes me think will the government & the Gujjars think of the inconvenience the innocent ppl are going through in their everyday life.. |
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My of my friends works in Bhiwadi..and they also got a day off today..to be on the safer side..
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we din get any day off...wen I called my boss to enquire and also tell him tht news isnt good I got the reply everything is normal..we will see u in office ..wanna discuss few imp things..this was yesterday and till now no dicussion has been done nor any meetings.. m almost vela
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The 'Times of India' headline says it all........
17 killed, but 23 trains cancelled. I've been reading this story for a couple of days now (in the Asian Age newspaper) and have some questions: - 1, Why do the Gujjar community NOT have Scheduled Tribe status, and why do they feel they should have Scheduled Tribe status? 2, Are the Gujjar community classed as OBC? (Other Backward Classes) 3, What are the advantages of Scheduled Tribe status over those of OBC? 4, Who decides the status of a community, and what factors are taken into consideration when deciding the status? 5, Historically, can the status of a community be changed, have other communities had their status changed? 6, Is this all about quotas? Sorry for all the questions, I find it all confusing and would like to understand it better.
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The Bikaner house is full of passengers as buses to Rajasthan have been cancelled.
The problem has started after the tribe of Meenas have been icluded in the ST catagory. |
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Yes !! and that is the reason that other communities have stepped down and are willing to step down, just to be benefitted from the same...
quotas not only in education but in govt jobs and lots of other things.. I am sure that a huge percentage of Govt employees are Meenas. |
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Yes Shashank the Meenas do occupy many posts. This reservation thing and politics have played havoc. Delhites won't forget what happened after the Mondal report. Recent spat between IIM's and Govt. is an example of such politics raising its ugly head in education.
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Are the Gujjar community classed as OBC? Is OBC a step up, or a step down from Scheduled Tribe status? |
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but Lemme give an example..there is Jat Community of Haryana. They got themselves listed as SC(Schedule Caste) /ST OR OBC just to get the benefit of the quotoas..it was done with votebank politics and political clout.. Other traditionaly Jats ranked higher in the society.. |
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any mind you these Jat fellas are filthy rich (especially ones from UP)...had few school mates in mussoorie...
wht more even some areas in delhi are literally owned by them (Tilak nagar, malkaganj etc)..I even have a gujjar frnd who's dad owns a hospital in delhi and the guy is in export business minting money... I really hope they finish off this reservation quota business completely and ppl understand the politics of our politicians who are dividing us on the basis of caste & creed for their vote banks... |
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Barkha you have made a very important observation. All these doles do not reach the real needy persons. The creamy layer laps it up to become richer. That is the irony.
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steven,
My understanding is that Gujjars are presently classified under OBC. They are demanding that they be included in ST category. The reason, I guess, is that there are more competition for quotas under OBC than under ST. Hence their chances of getting Govt jobs under ST category is relatively better than under OBC. It is the State Govt. which decides on the status of a community ( whethere scheduled castes, scheduled tribes or other backward class) based on the socio-economic status of the communities as per the reports of the District Collectors. Originally, the idea of reservations to SC and ST was to upgrade their socio-economic status by fixing certain quotas in admission in colleges for higher education and in government jobs. Over a period of time, the quota policy has become a vote bank politics for all political parties. Since Gujjars constitute about 5% of the population in Rajasthan compared with that of about 10% of Meenas and the like percentage of Jats, politicians will not like to rub Meenas and Jats on the wrong side. My own assessment is that Meenas and Jats have better socio-economic status than Gujjars in Rajasthan. Sadanand Last edited by Sadanand Kamath : Jun 1st, 2007 at 20:48. |
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"Gujjars are currently classified as Other Backward Classes (OBCs) and are entitled to quotas in state-run education centres and in government jobs. But the community wants to be listed under the Scheduled Tribe (ST) category. " ST is apparently a step down from OBC, and carries greater benefits or higher quotas. |
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