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Old Sep 20th, 2009, 11:26   #31
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Yes this is all very worrying indeed.

Today I recieved an email from my government's (Australia) rep in New Delhi advising me that "credible infomation indicates that terrorists may be planning futher attacks in Mumbai in Sept and Oct"

Wow just at the time I will be in Mumbai !!!

I doesn't make me feel comfortable at all. I dont scare easily however I am unverved.

The Australian government have listed all of the potential tourist areas possible aimed for an attack on their web site. It reallt includes EVERYWHERE !!!

If we left them all out we might as well stay at home !!!

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Old Sep 20th, 2009, 11:39   #32
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Er, Philip, you've been nervously asking about every little detail of your upcoming trip for some time now. (I'm not making fun of you, it's just an observation. If you were to ask me, which you haven't, I do think you might just relax and rest assured your trip will go pretty much OK, it does to most. Not regarding this particular subject btw, but in general. And then some take the first flight home, so it goes. If you don't feel right at home there for the first few days, and many of us don't, try to allow yourself some time to ease into it; getting on the move out of whatever mad metropolis you landed in is helpful to many.)

Govt. travel advisories are notorious for being pretty conservative; one could perhaps argue they have little choice but to. (It will also practically reflect on e.g. insurance schemes for people traveling to those countries btw, notably regarding organized tours there. What I mean is there is a very practical component to it. And then beyond that, of course they don't want to be seen to leave their citizens in the cold, and that's precisely what the public reaction would be: But!! Why didn't you act!! And etc. While we otherwise find any security checks and stuff a hassle that we like to complain about of course.)

Whether something is about to happen isn't for me or anyone else here to say, of course. So, er, I have nothing practical to say on it. It could very well be yes; if we were to go by combinations of significant dates and high densities of given visitors or locals, I guess there'd be very few dates and destinations in India that would be safe. As there wouldn't be in many other places.

I found walking around in Mumbai's VT (or CST) station earlier this year (it was savagely hit in last year's attacks) somewhat eerie; part of that eeriness was the realization how many people actually pass through there. So even during such a horrid event, you'd have to be very unlucky indeed to get caught up in it. That is, I'm afraid, the harsh truth of it. If you do get caught up in it, there's a good chance you'd end up, er, dead, or severely wounded, I suppose; then again this could happen pretty much anywhere most of us live.

(I likewise found walking around the Madrid station that was hit some years ago, and just a few years before me walking there, a little eerie. And the same thoughts and feelings struck me. Yet people there likewise proudly picked up and carried on with their lives, there actually wasn't much acute to be noticed of it a few years after the fact. And it could happen at any station I frequent in my own city, of course. Or at other venues. Etc.)
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Old Sep 20th, 2009, 11:46   #33
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The Australian government have listed all of the potential tourist areas possible aimed for an attack on their web site. It reallt includes EVERYWHERE !!!

If we left them all out we might as well stay at home !!!

Philip
True dat. See, if the information was specific, these things can be stopped but generic colour coded alerts, general areas "avoid delhi" is all the hoohaa they can manage. And as mentioned by previous posters, there are a lot of internal and external "conspiracy" angles to consider too.

Considering that after the Bombay attacks, that the RAW is pretty much out there in Pak. doing all the blowing up, the Paks must feel the only defence is a good offense. So, we amp up this shit between us. At least that's my view.

And from a nutter point of view, if there are "israelis" or "TEH JEWS", he's got a double helping of virgins or whatever he got brainwashed with.

People go about their lives the best they can.
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Old Sep 20th, 2009, 13:53   #34
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Manmohan Singh & his team of croonies don't have a courageous bone in their bodies. For years, Chinese have armed and aided Pakistan, millitarily and economically, but they have turned a blind eye. As a result, Pakistani's have started punching above their weights.

For some years now, China has constantly raked up the boundary issues (Arunachal in particular), border incursions have gone up, and yet, not 1 Minister has come out with a stern word against the Chinese.

Tibetians have a genuine cause, but instead of supporting them and showing solidarity with them, India, wary of annoying the Chinese, have completely neglected them.

Forget Pakistan, it isn't long before the likes of Bangladesh and Nepal start causing problems for India.


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I can see what you are trying to do. This is a thread on terror warnings that Israel has issued and yet you are trying to somehow force into it your own personal thoughts of how one particular community in India has been unjustly dealt with by the wider, much bigger community. Don't do it, this is not the place.

I wouldn't like to go into it any further as this is totally offtopic, and would have ignored your comment to one of my earlier posts, but seeing that you have continued harping on, I was forced to reply.

Kindly see for your self to your own two posts, what is offtopic & what are personal thoughts on the post.You your self is best judge.I had only replied to Nick and have never used word community any where in that post.Feel free to contact, interact with me in case you are feeling offended, due to any reason.
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Hi machadinha,

Yes you are brobably correct that I have been more than a little concerned about my whole 2.5 month visit - you have obviously noticed my many posts !!!!

Cheers.

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Old Sep 20th, 2009, 14:33   #36
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Gee, I spent that many years there at a stretch and never thought about terrorists. Mostly I thought about pretty girls, chocolate, Coca Cola, and pretty girls.

Now I will concede there was some hazard. My work, way off the tourist track, put me in one caste riot (Marathwada riots) and one communal riot (Ahmednagar) and a labor disturbance at a sugar cane factory. But, only the middle one was close. You don't do political economy in the library alone. Also, two political disturbances but only one of which a tourist could have remotely ended up in & the probabilty is extremely small.
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Considering that after the Bombay attacks, that the RAW is pretty much out there in Pak. doing all the blowing up, the Paks must feel the only defence is a good offense. So, we amp up this shit between us. At least that's my view.
Wo wo wo wait a minute, where did u get that information from? You seem to suggest it like a matter of fact. Even Pakistanis aren't blaming India for all those Taliban attacks except some loose talks by extremist Pakistani websites. I can see how those stupid conspiracy theories and loose talk about involvement of X or Y works so wonderfully for the extremists. It creates enough doubt in the minds of ordinary people and other governments to think it's a bilateral issue between those two countries, both are blowing up each other we better not get involved. So no support for India by anyone. Brilliant!

And regarding those conspiracy theories it's so absurd to think India attacks it's own people in order to get excuse to attack Pakistan. We have got thousands or reasons for why we should. We do not need any more. It is so absurd on so many levels.
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I agree, there is very little chance of you being directly involved in an attack, even if you are in the city on the day it happens.

But to ease your stress levels if you are worrying about it, I would suggest not to hang out all day in areas with concentrated levels of tourists.
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Matthew you are of course correct about not being with lots of other tourists - the trouble is that there are always tourists around the tourist areas which is where I want to go !!!!

Just try not to think about it I guess.

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Yeah, but whatever tourist place you go to in India, the majority of tourists will be Indians, there are few places with large concentrations of Western tourists.

Sure Pahar Ganj and Goa, but places like Goa are massive areas with 1000's of bars spread out, it wouldn't be a very effective attack because everyone could run as soon as they heard gunfire...not like Mumbai where they were trapped in the hotels.

Perhaps the tourist ticketing area in New Delhi train station...If you are backpacking I think you will be pretty safe, it's high profile places they would go for.

Also I can't remember an attack that actually occurred after a specific warning had been sent out.
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india gets these kind of threats everyday..but we are not scared of them.i wish i were the pm of the country..i wouldhave declared war agaibst pakistan ight away.lol
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It creates enough doubt in the minds of ordinary people and other governments to think it's a bilateral issue between those two countries, both are blowing up each other we better not get involved. So no support for India by anyone. Brilliant!

And regarding those conspiracy theories it's so absurd to think India attacks it's own people in order to get excuse to attack Pakistan. We have got thousands or reasons for why we should. We do not need any more. It is so absurd on so many levels.
Imagine if i put your words like this...i am not supporting any concpirancy theory.

(And regarding those conspiracy theories it's so absurd to think India does not attacks it's own people in order to get excuse not to attack Pakistan. We have got thousands or reasons for why we should, but never do .Expecting some other country to do so.)

Dear rushie82
It is duty of any government to protect its own people and innocent tourist from terrorist attacks. Every thing comes after that, sense of security is I think more important than roads, electricity and water. Since, every time they get away from one after another attack they come back again Bolder with much more lethal agenda.
Why are there no attacks inside Israel, it being surrounded by so many enemies? We always go crying to other countries with list of greviences. It is we who have to take action, direct and effective.
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if you see kind of games they play on these, this solution can become counter productive.
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