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Old Nov 18th, 2006, 13:18   #1
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Help this little girl to find her parents....

http://www.helppoojafindherparents.org/
Pooja is a 4 year old girl kidnapped by a beggar. This
person made Pooja beg with him. He was arrested by
Railway Police in Trivandrum in the Kerala state and
jailed. Pooja is in an orphanage (Nirmala Sisu Bhavan in
Trivandrum, Kerala, India). The beggar who kidnapped
her is dumb and deaf. So police cannot get the place
from where he kidnapped her. Pooja's primary language
is Hindi and as per Pooja, her mother's name is Munni
Devi and Father's name is Raju. Pooja says she has a
younger brother and an elder sister. She says her place
is Nagaluppe, but no one has heard about this place.

I think with the power of Internet and by spreading the
word around, we may be able to trace her parents.
Please find Pooja's photos on the right hand side and
below.

If you know any information about her parents, please
call this orphanage. The phone number is 0471-2307434
(0471 is the area code for Trivandrum, Kerala).


Please forward this website address
(http://www.helppoojafindherparents.org)
to as many people as you can, especially to
all your friends and relatives in India. Every
new person visiting this website increases
the chances of Pooja finding her parents.
May God bless you.

EDIT NOTE - Edited to add photos. by s_b
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Old Nov 18th, 2006, 13:45   #2
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Nagaluppe

No trace, but one thing I have learnt about India is never to rely on the spelling of place names.

Hindi speakers............

If all the police have to go by is the girls pronunciation of a place called Nagaluppe......what are the spelling and pronunciation permutations of this place name?
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Old Nov 18th, 2006, 13:50   #3
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She seems a little light skinned, and she has thick (or maybe just lots) haired (could be that it hasn't been cut for a while though), could she be from a hilly region north or north east of Delhi?

What language do they speak in the hills?
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Old Nov 18th, 2006, 15:22   #4
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Nagpur?
Nagaland? Doesnt look Naga and speaks Hindi, though

there is a

Naga in UP East of Allahabad.. maybe 60/80 km
Naga in Jharkhand SE of Ranchi about 150km
Naga in Rajasthan North of Jaisalmer 110km

there may be more!

could it be one of these, or around? sometimes smaller hamlets may have a name as an extension of 'naga'


Surely she would have given more information... topography of her village being the first.. to the cops.
and the beggar..wonder if he can write and dont the cops have any clue as to where he came from to Trivandrum station?

i am sure if you can converse with a four year old, you can find out quite a bit.

Clothes or jewellery on her or the beggar? Dialect? Hindi may be widespread, but speech changes with geography.
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Old Nov 18th, 2006, 15:43   #5
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There is always a name index on the back of maps, and I have checked it on mine. I was also thinking of maybe Nagpur...or there is Nagar Untari in Bihar, and a Nagaur in Rajahstan. I have gone through the entire list, not just N, for possible resemblances, but there isn't anything that might sound, even if misspelled, Nagaluppe.

More than that, there is no name on the entire map that even remotely ends like naggalupe. (that is a good trategy too, if anyone else has patience to try....try finding towns with similar endings, instead of beginning).

My guess is that this Nagaluppe is not the name of the town itself, but maybe the name of a small locality within it. In this case, only locals will recognize it, unfortunately. On the other hand there are certain types of names given to localities in certain areas, like ending in a particular fashion (-am, -ur and so on), so that might help.

On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that she is not pronouncing it right, you know how kids mispell words and mix letters. It might not even start with Naga-, it might be even Daga (tongue is in the same position). Try to talk to the girl and observe if she is doing any other mispellings in her speech, and which letters she can't pronounce properly. If maybe you don't speak too much Hindi, get someone who does, and maybe that will help locate her accent, ask her more about the place or recognise pronounciation errors.

Try reading her names from the back of the map and ask her which sounds like her place. Also, if you can record the way she pronounces it and put it as an mp3 on the website, maybe that might help someone find some resemblance.

Another point is about the beggar: is he retarded or smth, can he draw, can he point on the map. Does he coperate at all or he doesn't want to? Try bribery...maybe his memory will suddenly improve.

My idea is that these beggars might travel a lot, true, but I don't think that they go to very remote places and villages; they probably stay in bigger towns. And they probably use the train, as I can't imagine them walking throughout India. So the place should be connected to the railway system.

Good luck!

P.S. on the other hand, there are the typical police methods (sending the info around the country), because the parents probably reported the missing child, although probably long ago. These will not work in India? Also, you can try to contact some TV channel, radio or national newspaper and ask ppl to send their thoughts on where this Nagaluppe might be, in case you haven't done it so far.
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Old Nov 19th, 2006, 07:26   #6
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Hm. Why does this sound so much like those emails you get every so often?

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Pooja is a 4 year old girl kidnapped by a beggar.

This person made Pooja beg with him.

He was arrested by Railway Police in Trivandrum in the Kerala state and jailed.

Pooja is in an orphanage (Nirmala Sisu Bhavan in Trivandrum, Kerala, India).

The beggar who kidnapped her is dumb and deaf. So police cannot get the place from where he kidnapped her.

Pooja's primary language is Hindi and as per Pooja, her mother's name is Munni Devi and Father's name is Raju.

Pooja says she has a younger brother and an elder sister.

She says her place is Nagaluppe, but no one has heard about this place.

... Please forward this website address to as many people as you can
I'm sorry, I'm not buying it. Deaf and dumb, OK, but he's illiterate and incapable of drawing too? (Note also the absence of any links, period, on the site itself.)
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Old Nov 19th, 2006, 11:26   #7
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I understand that every Kumbh Mela leaves in its wake a number of lost and abandoned children (and grandparents) who are unable to give sufficient information to be reunited with their families.

But if this case is true, I would have thought that a national press campaign would be the starting point. I don't recall seeing the story covered even here, in Kerala's neighbour state. That's far from conclusive though: I miss a lot!
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Old Nov 19th, 2006, 15:42   #8
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I have been travelled many diffrent parts of India and as far I guess she should belongs to Uttar Predesh or Somewhere from South of India.
Please, I want to request to all the people to forward this message in all diffrent forums and pass on by E-mails to as much people and friends as we can.
God bless her.
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yep, this case seems to avoid any of the straight-forward methods, sounds dubious to me too. The only purpose seems to be forwarding the email
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Old Nov 20th, 2006, 11:59   #10
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I understand that every Kumbh Mela leaves in its wake a number of lost and abandoned children (and grandparents) who are unable to give sufficient information to be reunited with their families.
Yes, but here we have the case of a beggar being unable to disclose her backgrounds because he cannot speak or hear. Still sounds a little dodgy to me.

I guess the best step would be to call the number given. I'm tempted, but less so with the prospect of upping my phone bills.

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Please, I want to request to all the people to forward this message in all diffrent forums and pass on by E-mails to as much people and friends as we can.
No. Please. Never. Don't. Besides, what would most of your friends do with it, unless they were in a unique postion to really deal with it?

For a famous case that was apparently well-intentioned but went completely awry (it still did the rounds every now and then years after), read Petition for Afghan Women's Rights. See also Do e-mail petitions work?
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Old Nov 20th, 2006, 12:08   #11
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Mac you are in a 007 mood it seems

wish the number were of US/China and some other places in its list of free calls....u wud have done ur detective act using a free calling service here

but yes such things really feel dubious....but one thing that comes up to questioning is "why are they doing this?". Just to create drama in the public using the free Internet World??? And who hosts these sites. the kids parents or the the Orphanage or the begger as his penance??
I was carried away by another such thing I came acorss... I even posted it here

I just cannot get the authenticity of anything like that. I guess creating DRAMA in the public is what some ppl like these days. that Lonelygirl15 fake drama on youtube also falls in this category. Drama!
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Old Nov 20th, 2006, 12:19   #12
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Ah yes all part of modern life I guess. All the stuff Philip K. Dick couldn't dream up eh

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that Lonelygirl15 fake drama on youtube also falls in this category. Drama!
You mean the bogus diaries? Fantastic yes.
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keep the thread alive

there was 100s of similar cases where the families were informed by many means by the people who never even heard of e mails,and helped many children to get their life back .So they will do the same , it is Kerala and especially Trivandrum , there is nothing dubious and nothing suspecious.
i am sure she will find her parents through the Malayalees who is settled in every corner of this world .
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Old Nov 24th, 2006, 13:30   #14
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macha...

someday your cynicism will kill you. if it hasn't already. get a life, dude - if there's a 1% chance the op is real, sounds good enough to forward it.
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if there's a 1% chance the op is real, sounds good enough to forward it.
Have you looked at your inbox today? If I get a 1% chance to lower my spam rate I'll advocate it.
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