Going back home (US & UK) from India: Laptop/tablet ban in the cabin

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#1 Mar 22nd, 2017, 05:51
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So had a great vacation in India, and you have laptop, ipad, tablets, cameras. Now is time to go home!

If you are headed to US, flying the inexpensive tickets you bought eons ago from these airlines (Royal Jordanian, EgyptAir, Turkish Airlines, Saudi Arabian Airlines, Kuwait Airways, Royal Air Moroc, Qatar Airways, Emirates and Etihad Airways.) you will have to put them in your checked luggage.

And, if flying into UK, the same as above. But.....if you stop off at Dubai or MEA or Egypt, and catch British Air, then you may have issues too.

Here is official Q&A from US DHS and communiqué from the British Gov

Which some of my posse are calling the gummint's bluff, I reserve judgement till I get some more intel.
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Yes, its a new hazard to flying Emirates besides the seat selection fee in exonomy. How much do you value that laptop before you turn it over to the thieves (luggage handlers)? Makes Cathay look like a better bet. I would miss that wonderful video library of Hindi and Marathi films. Interesting that it does seem to prop up the temporary immigration freeze after all although it isn't the same list of countries. Britain & the US are in this on the base of an apparently credible fear. I wonder if taking the old P & O wasn't safer...
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The measures don't affect Indian airports for the time being but for me it'd be a reason to avoid flights with a transfer in one of those listed countries. I'd prefer paying a healthy chunk more so that I can carry my stuff, especially the tablet on which all of my books and music collection is stored, in-air entertainment is not for me, my most favourite channel tends to be the map and the flight data. . I occasionally put my laptop in checked luggage but indeed, it's a serious risk regarding theft. I wouldn't try to call their bluff on this. Airlines have no discretion and have to enforce the rules. If the staff catches you with your laptop on any of those flights they'll be obliged to notify authorities in the US or UK. But you'll be first off the plane
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The map is my favourite movie too! Although I usual watch one film on a 10-hour trip.

Is this restriction credible? Or is it part of Trump's anti Muslim stuff?

Is UK following because of its own mind, or due to noise stuck to Trump backside?

Answers on a postcard, please, to....
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They claim that the measures are based on intelligence which they obtained. Whether that's actually true is anyone's guess (I remember some previous so called solid intel on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq which prompted an intervention....). If anything, the measure imposed by the UK which lists countries of departure in stead of individual airports makes more sense to me than the US approach (except if the airports in question are the only ones flying directly to the US, which I don't know).

The UK/US, Canada, Australia and NZ closely collaborate and share info so I'd think the UK has analysed the same data and come to the same conclusion. I credit the Brits for being a bit more level headed -Brexit doesn't count - and previous experience with what plastic Tony did when George W came calling should have taught them to take a critical view and not simply copy/paste what comes over the pond.
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Plastic Tony followed in the footsteps of Mad-Cow Thatcher. Not exactly famous as a nose to backside woman, but she and that Reagan had something unsavoury going on.

Meanwhile... Security Theatre, with new, never-before-seen acts, coming to an airport near you!
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Sorry you are out of the loop re UK.Nick

Tony was Bushes poodle. Pathetic Huh!


Turkish air line affected as well, It was a good alternative to the east and reasonable prices
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Tony was Bushes poodle
oh yes yes... but M-C T was his manaseka guru. Hence Noo Labour donning the blue tie: The New Tories.
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Just a couple of weeks ago a friend of mine flew from India to US and back on Qatar and her baggage was bags, not hard suitcases, so it wouldn't have been good to stuff her laptop in them. Imagine all those Saudi princes who fly to the US being told they can't carry on their valuable equipment! Imagine the arguments in the airport.

It's going to be a mess in those airports, since airports don't usually have separate security checks for separate flights.

If this rule remains I expect those airlines might stop flying to the US. They are popular for flying from east coast US to Asia, because they are often cheaper than European and American airlines.
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Hence Noo Labour donning the blue tie: The New Tories.

You have lost it completely , Labour is a lost cause.

Perhaps a look at UK papers might help, thats if you are interested.

I think Indian politics are as convoluted as the rest of the world.


Maybe Modi spent all of the black money bribing the residents of UP!
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It is good that I decided about a month ago that I won't travel abroad- especially to the US or Europe, but others too- any more unless I absolutely have to.
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For some of us, travel to the USA and the UK is not a choice, but a necessity.

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Originally Posted by NonIndianResident View Post ... It's going to be a mess in those airports, since airports don't usually have separate security checks for separate flights ...
This is the real issue. Security personnel in the named countries will have to screen according to destination, which is a departure and a distraction from current methods. A 'secpol' is only as efficacious as it's ease of implementation. A determined terrorist will just fly via an unaffected country, so I cannot see how this will help in any meaningful way.

If the threat is credible, then they should have implemented it globally.
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Originally Posted by ViShVa View Post For some of us, travel to the USA and the UK is not a choice, but a necessity.
+1. I'm on 1 flight/month to the US from the EU and back, on average. And it's a royal pain, even flying business. On top of everything else, you have to worry about homeland security demanding that you provide access to your laptop.
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Originally Posted by dillichaat View Post ... it's a royal pain ...
And you're not even brown!
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First, apologies: I did not mean to trumple all over the thread. Or brexicate it. Really.



As to the on-topic subject matter, it is just one more small pain-in-the-neck restriction on airline passengers. Is is actually going to stop anybody travelling?

OK, so I don't fly much. I expect I've missed lots of points. Perhaps I'd better just futtock off (me hearties)
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