Two girls on a bicycle in South India

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Originally Posted by JOHNLORD View Post Sounds like a halfwit. Bloody dangerous thing to do. Its stupid people like this who are a danger to themselves and others.
Ha Ha , well just as long as your safe my darling then all will be well.
Unlike you i admire adventurous spirit, but i freely admit i am a half wit, and if i don't do something dangerous or at least draw blood daily then i feel i have failed in my duty to myself -- but when you imply that a person's actions are dangerous to " Others " then that opens up a whole new can of worms, and that slippery slope down to the " Nanny State " get's steeper.
I love India because it is dangerous, it keeps me on my toes, it constantly reinforces my awareness levels, and keeps my heart pumping like a big old black steam train.
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I wonder what our member of a few years back, Sirensongs, would say about this. I think she spent quite a lot of two-wheeler time on the roads here, and in other parts of Asia, over quite a few years. I also know, by the way, that she suffered two major-injury accidents. Hmm, I wonder where she is these days: I guess facebook has its advantages.

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Originally Posted by JOHNLORD View Post Sounds like a halfwit. Bloody dangerous thing to do. Its stupid people like this who are a danger to themselves and others.
Maybe it is one of those things that, if one was asked (as we have been here), one might say, "Look, don't, right? Just... Don't." But if the person has done it? Maybe, far from being a halfwit, she had more wits than you and I, and maybe that is why and how she did it, successfully and safely.

I've also noticed that, sometimes in life, the naive (eg me) can sail in and out of situations we didn't even recognise at the time, when the worldy-wise person might have got thumped or worse.

I know you would not recommend your daughter (if you have one) to fling herself and bike into the cab of an unknown truck driver in an unknown place. Neither would I. Not many people would, and not just in India.

Heck, I wouldn't even recommend that to redninja... and he's big, male and ugly!
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I too believe that 'others' cannot justify their actions based on my behaviour (not directed towards them)!
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'others' cannot justify their actions based on my behaviour
No, they can't. But to you, if you end up raped, cut up and dumped in a ditch, their after-the-event justification is sadly irrelevant.
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I think it's the captain who said something along the lines of just because you don't perceive danger does not mean the situation is not dangerous.

I wouldn't recommend any female to get into a truck lorry with strangers.

As you said it might not be very safe for a male either.
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Originally Posted by redninja View Post ... arrived at my guest house in Chennai,

OT: You have a guesthouse in Chennai??

Or you mean, the guesthouse you stayed at, (perhaps Broadlands...)?

Thank you for clarification.
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Using my phone for IM so please excuse any spelling mistakes etc.

RN India is no more dangerous than any other country. If you (by you I mean people and not you personally) act stupidly then do not be surprised if you get punished for your stupidity.

I can't imagine any situation where I would encourage, or not actively discourage, a woman from getting into a strange truck.

It's all very well whatsapping someone the details but once you are raped or killed I don't think the details will be of much comfort to your family.
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Originally Posted by JOHNLORD View Post I can't imagine any situation where I would encourage, or not actively discourage, a woman from getting into a strange truck.
I can't either. Leaving aside the in-other-countries (which is Indiamike-speak for, hey, don't rant about it happening in other countries not just India) there's only one country I currently have much day-to-day knowledge of (how much may be moot, but hey, more than other countries) so, about India... Don't. Just don't.

As for Astrid... Just one post? Surely we can't be that off-putting? . The troll theory strengthens. Astrid: Please, tell us it ain't so!
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Originally Posted by atala View Post OT: You have a guesthouse in Chennai??

Or you mean, the guesthouse you stayed at, (perhaps Broadlands...)?

Thank you for clarification.

Yes i have a guesthouse in Chennai -- in the same way Nycank has his own airbus 380
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I have to say, starting in Bangalore....hoo boy, I really think the traffic is the absolute WORST in India there....
It might be the best of times or the worst of times...but it's the only time you've got!
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Originally Posted by sab kuch milega View Post I have to say, starting in Bangalore....hoo boy, I really think the traffic is the absolute WORST in India there....

Well you have to start somewhere -- Just leave early in the morning -- in all large cities in India dawn traffic is pretty light.
leave at 5am and you have 6 hours riding before 11am -- you would easily travel 30 or 40k's in that time, more than enough time to clear the city limits, and be well on your way to the next stop.
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Goodmorning from Holland,

First: thank you for your replays.
Second: I don't get happy of these.

Some more information:
I have been cycling alone in Thailand for 3 weeks. And also in the (small) cities: Chang Rai and Chang Mai.
Last year me and my cycle girlfriend went to Vietnam. Started our trip in Hanoi. In that city it was good cycling.
And I have scooterd in Phnom Phen.
So I have a little experience with busy traffic.

But these countries are different then India, I realise that!
We red a lot of travel journeys about cycling in the South of India. And the tell about busy roads ect.
But everybody comes back home with positive experiances.
So I hope we do.


We will be surching for more small roads.
And we do not cycle in the dark (We never do that).
We are with two persons. More save?
And we believe that there are nice and helpfull peolple on out way.
But are not to naive.....

From Banaglore we want to take a train to leave the city. But still a good tip: leaving early by bicycle!
Who can tell something about that?
Which city will be the easiest to reach on the east by train? Salem? Cuddalore?

Or is the bus more easy, more save, more quick????

Hope to read something back!
Thanks again for the advice untill now.
Astrid and Ina

I see down here more Threads with problably information to use.
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Originally Posted by AstridHo View Post Goodmorning from Holland,

First: thank you for your replays.
Second: I don't get happy of these.

Some more information:
I have been cycling alone in Thailand for 3 weeks. And also in the (small) cities: Chang Rai and Chang Mai.
Last year me and my cycle girlfriend went to Vietnam. Started our trip in Hanoi. In that city it was good cycling.
And I have scooterd in Phnom Phen.
So I have a little experience with busy traffic.

But these countries are different then India, I realise that!
We red a lot of travel journeys about cycling in the South of India. And the tell about busy roads ect.
But everybody comes back home with positive experiances.
So I hope we do.


We will be surching for more small roads.
And we do not cycle in the dark (We never do that).
We are with two persons. More save?
And we believe that there are nice and helpfull peolple on out way.
But are not to naive.....

From Banaglore we want to take a train to leave the city. But still a good tip: leaving early by bicycle!
Who can tell something about that?
Which city will be the easiest to reach on the east by train? Salem? Cuddalore?

Or is the bus more easy, more save, more quick????

Hope to read something back!
Thanks again for the advice untill now.
Astrid and Ina

I see down here more Threads with problably information to use.


Oh good you have some experience -- the scooter experience in Phnom Phen, will prepare you for India , ( a bit ).
I guess that's the delight of Indiamike that you will get responses from all extremes, some wanting to wrap you in cotton wool and half wits like me who will encourage you, to indulge in the last bastion of two wheeled , wind in the hair transport.

You can take 2 cycles onto a train easily, or bus if there is not to many people (travel early morning ) i assuming you have modern bikes where the wheels can just click off, making a smaller package, but a taxi fare to the edge of the city, with your bikes could be an efficient option -- a 500r ( or less ) taxi fare split two ways would get you to the city limits, especially early in the morning.
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Originally Posted by AstridHo View Post Hope to read something back!
Thanks again for the advice untill now.
Astrid and Ina
Hello Astrid and Ina,

I'm happy to know that you are still with us, and I hope you stay.

With any project, it is quite a good thing to review the reasons why not! Hope we gave food for thought that might have some use.
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Hello Zeeland to Groningen

I saw you hav ebeen more times to India.
Tell us: is it really to dangerous?
We don't think so. Just be aware.

Can you tell something about clothing? On the bike? For woman?

Some tips of what to see and what to skip?

We want to go van Bangalore by train/bus to more or less the east coast. En than go more south to Madurai and then trough the mountains and along the cast back to Bangalore by train or bus. Maybe from Ooty.

Groeten : Astrid en Ina (zij komt ook uit Groningen)

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