Jaisalmer, Pushkar, Bundi or Amritsar?

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Yes, you really do need to take the time of year into consideration...it once took me almost 24 hours from Varanasi to Delhi...I kind of enjoyed it though! I would leave out some of the big places...really you could miss Jaipur and Jodhpur....Jaisalmer is great but a long train ride, and you already have one from Varanasi..soooo...I really recommend Bundi for a couple of days and personally I love Pushkar (stay at Everest) and actually camel fair is too hectic. But do try to go to some smaller places...it really gives you a completely different feel for the country. Orchha is probably slightly too far off your path, but it is really a lovely small town. Really. Have fun, but watch the fog and bring a down vest, it was 5 degrees Celsius in Agra once when I was there, and no heating in the guesthouses if you are going "budget".
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Originally Posted by tlinn View Post I'm going to be in India in January.


Most visitors that love Jaisalmer seem to enjoy 1) going out into the desert on a camel, perhaps overnight; and 2) shopping in the fort. I can see why most people would be interested in these activities but I'm not interested in either. I love sand dunes; I've been to quite a few. The Jaisalmer sand dunes seem relatively flat, tracked up, and covered with scrub. Not as appealing to me as some places I've already seen. The fort is picturesque for sure but Jaisalmer is a long way to travel just for for that. The Jain temples and havelis also look interesting but, again, are they that different than what I will have already seen in Jaipur and Jodhpur?

What am I missing? What am I not taking into account? Any thoughts would be appreciated.



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Originally Posted by tlinn View Post I'm a landscape photographer so my perspective is probably a little different than yours. Colors, color palettes, shapes and patterns are all of interest to me.
January 29-31 is Desert Festival in Jaisalmer. In my opinion, its more colorful and interesting than Pushkar. Jaisalmer, has the only living fort in India. That in itself is visually unique of any forts in Rajasthan, and with lots of photographing opportunties.

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If you don't have your wits about yourself, just as at Times Square or Pushkar, there are very good chances of being a victim of a scam at Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
ViShVa - Jackson Hole is overcrowded in the Summer but no scams as such. Lodging and restaurants are a bit expensive but that goes with the demand. It is in my neck of the woods, been there often. Even considered buying something there but found the real estate too overpriced.
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Originally Posted by aarosh View Post If you have planned 2 days for Agra then you could do an overnight in Bharatpur. See my trip report for more information of what could be seen in Bharatpur.

Why are you doing Varanasi first and Corbett last? Would it not be logical to do Agra - Rajasthan - Varanasi - Corbett?

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Hi aarosh,

Thanks for your comments. Are you suggesting moving one of the nights in Agra to Bharatpur?

There are three reasons why Corbett doesn't follow Varanasi. It was the last thing I added to the itinerary so I had the logistics worked out for everything else already including reservations. When I looked into a Varanasi to Ramnagar route it didn't seem much more efficient that an out-and-back from Delhi. And, probably most important, I think it will be the part of the trip my 15 year old son enjoys the most so I want it to be last. :-)
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Originally Posted by tlinn View Post Are you suggesting moving one of the nights in Agra to Bharatpur?
Yes.

Is Corbett a must or a National Park / Tiger sighting a must? If the former then nothing can be done, if the latter then Ranthambore could be considered.
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Originally Posted by kmalik View Post Recommend Jaisalmer, Chittorgarh. Not been there but Kambhalgarh is something I would not mind. Jaipur, with apologies to Jaipur folks, is overrated and I would skip or shorten. I would shorten Agra stay too... love Corbett as well but not the wild commercial scene outside. I would stay inside in the FRH.
Thanks, kmalik. You are not the first to say this about both Agra and Jaipur and I don't know enough to have a strong opinion to the contrary. That said, I've followed a couple rules when creating my itinerary. First, I have avoided stopping anywhere for just one night. I want at least a day at each location where I don't have to wonder where I'm going to put my luggage before check in or after check out. (I'd welcome advice about this.) Second, I'm a photographer. I tend to shoot in early morning and late evening. I nap and eat during the middle of the day. So I have a mental list of shots I want to get in either morning or evening and I set aside one sunrise or sunset for each.

In the case of Agra, I arrive from Varanasi in the morning but too late to catch sunrise at the Taj. So...sunset #1 Mehtab Bagh, sunrise #1 Taj, sunset #2 Taj/Agra Fort, sunrise #2 Fatepur Sikri. I'll fill in the gaps with Baby Taj, Akbar's Tomb and wandering around.

In the case of Jaipur I don't have that mental list but I am generally aware of any number of sites—seems like quite a few—that would work. I'm also considering a balloon ride, if anyone has feedback on that.
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Originally Posted by aarosh View Post Yes.

Is Corbett a must or a National Park / Tiger sighting a must? If the former then nothing can be done, if the latter then Ranthambore could be considered.
Good question, aarosh. I ended up at Corbett after planning to do Ranthambore and concluding that, in winter at least, the terrain is drab and a tiger sighting unlikely. Someone in another thread suggested Corbett and I was immediately convinced this was a better alternative because the terrain is more attractive and the variety of wildlife seems orders of magnitude greater. I would much rather see gharial along riverbanks, herds of elephants wandering through tall grass and monkeys in the trees than a tiger wandering down the side of the road (in either park). That is not to say I don't want to see a tiger along the road.
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Originally Posted by kmalik View Post ViShVa - Jackson Hole is overcrowded in the Summer but no scams as such. Lodging and restaurants are a bit expensive but that goes with the demand. It is in my neck of the woods, been there often. Even considered buying something there but found the real estate too overpriced.
Yes, having spent considerable time in the Yellowstone-Grand Teton corridor I agree—though I understand the point that was being made.
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post January 29-31 is Desert Festival in Jaisalmer. In my opinion, its more colorful and interesting than Pushkar. Jaisalmer, has the only living fort in India. That in itself is visually unique of any forts in Rajasthan, and with lots of photographing opportunties.
Thanks, nycank. I'm leaning toward sticking with Jaisalmer based on the feedback I am getting. Unfortunately, I am locked into my dates; I would love to be there for the festival.
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Originally Posted by sab kuch milega View Post Yes, you really do need to take the time of year into consideration...it once took me almost 24 hours from Varanasi to Delhi...I kind of enjoyed it though! I would leave out some of the big places...really you could miss Jaipur and Jodhpur....Jaisalmer is great but a long train ride, and you already have one from Varanasi..soooo...I really recommend Bundi for a couple of days and personally I love Pushkar (stay at Everest) and actually camel fair is too hectic. But do try to go to some smaller places...it really gives you a completely different feel for the country. Orchha is probably slightly too far off your path, but it is really a lovely small town. Really. Have fun, but watch the fog and bring a down vest, it was 5 degrees Celsius in Agra once when I was there, and no heating in the guesthouses if you are going "budget".
Thanks, sab kuch milega. At one point I had a night in Agra and a night in Orchha instead of two nights in Agra. I ended up dropping Orchha in an attempt to simplify things. Like the rest of my itinerary, I'm not sure I made the right decision. I'm not traveling alone. I'm with my wife and 15 year old son. Part of my decision has to do with their comfort. They both have some anxiety (to put it mildly) about this trip. I appreciate the tip about the down vest. I would like nothing more than to get a nice shot of the Taj enshrouded in fog—and I'd like to be comfortable while doing it.
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Originally Posted by santos_g15 View Post Trains depend upon signal [red, green yellow] just like road traffic to switch tracks, cross over with other trains (Mostly there is one line on a given route and its doubled at only a few places/stations for crossover).The poor visibility hampers drivers ability to see the signal and there is a lot of unprotected road crossings too.The trains move at a very slow pace sometimes reduced to a crawl.In 2012, my train from Delhi came about 12 hours late to Agra and starting at Delhi at about 10 hrs late.The onward train is also used for the return journey and if the onward train is delayed, the return train is also delayed and the delay compounds with time.
That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation, santos_g15.
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Thanks for the additional info, images and links, ViShVa. Much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by vaibhav_arora View Post If you're a landscape photographer, you may want to go to sambhar lake - can be done from pushkar or Jaipur, bit easier to arrange a car from latter. Heres a picture I had taken.




In Jaipur, climb the hawa Mahal - as early as you can. Views from galta and nahargarh are also good.

In Jaisalmer - view of the fort from down below at sunrise and view from the fort at sunset (of the city)

In kumbhalgarh - of the fort from aodhi at dusk and post sunset (fort wall gets lit)

In Ranakpur - ceiling carving while lying flat on your back.

Chittorgarh is difficult to get a panoramic shot of as the fort is on a mesa with walls rising vertically over the rock precipice.

Jodhpur, umaid bhawan is quite photogenic but the haze in the afternoon is bad.

I look forward to seeing your photos.
Thanks, vaibhav_arora. I really appreciate the location tips. Nice shot!
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I'm now convinced I would enjoy any of the cities on my list. Based on the feedback I've received, I am leaning toward sticking with my original itinerary that includes Jaisalmer. I am going to assume this won't be my only trip to India; a second trip into Rajasthan could consist of a nice cluster of sites around Pushkar, Bundi, Udaipur, Ranakpur and the other sites that are all relatively close to each other in this region.

Let me ask a follow up question. (Some of you have already given me the answer.) Right now I've got (2.5) days and (2) nights in Jodhpur followed by (2) nights and days in Jaisalmer. Then (3) days and nights in Dhikala. If I could add a day in somewhere, where would you do it? And why?
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And, to be clear, I'm not talking about a new location. I'm talking only about more time at Jodhpur, Jaisalmer or Corbett.

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