How has India changed since 2010?

#1 Oct 31st, 2017, 20:06
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I get the feeling India has changed a lot. I used to travel often to India but got put off by the rapid change.

I'm thinking,
1) There are a lot more Indians around traveling as domestic tourists
2) It's nosier more crowded
3) It's more expensive
4) More crime, dislike of foreigners
5) Difficult to find peace and solitude.

I'm planning, Fort Kochi, Varkala, Kodiakanal, Rameswaram, Pondi, Mamallapuram.

Am i going to be disappointed?
#2 Oct 31st, 2017, 20:15
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Originally Posted by Mango_Frutti View Post I get the feeling India has changed a lot. I used to travel often to India but got put off by the rapid change.

I'm thinking,
1) There are a lot more Indians around traveling as domestic tourists
2) It's nosier more crowded
3) It's more expensive
4) More crime, dislike of foreigners
5) Difficult to find peace and solitude.

I'm planning, Fort Kochi, Varkala, Kodiakanal, Rameswaram, Pondi, Mamallapuram.

Am i going to be disappointed?
1. Yes more domestic travellers.
2. More noisier and crowded.
3. That I suppose is across the globe, but then more demand more costs does hold true.
4. More crime AND more reporting, BUT not necessarily towards foreigners. Much more intolerance and impatience - so increase in impulsive acts.
5. That you can still find - difficult but definitely not impossible or too difficult.

And I think you have chosen a pretty safe circuit, I don't think you will be disappointed, unless you expect 2010 scenes as they were.

I think you will find quite a few places to find peace in the places above.
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#3 Oct 31st, 2017, 21:27
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I don't think India has changed much since 2010. Same changes, but yes, more rapid.

Is higher rate of domestic tourism a disadvantage to you? I'm doubting that us what you mean to say, but, if so, there are hotels that discriminate against their own fellow citizens.

Certainly it is noisier. Year on year traffic increase goes a long way towards ensuring that.

I don't think there is widespread dislike of foreigners. You can always find somebody, I suppose.
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It's not more expensive if you know how to take advantage of technology and do not remain stuck on what the guidebooks (lp/fodors) say. The books are quite slow to keep pace with change. Most hotels including low budget (inr1000/- per night) show up online, look at photo and book . It used to cost no less than rs 800 to go from Delhi Sarai rohilla to Noida in 2009, now costs only 550 thanks to uber. Foods a lot more expensive though.
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Originally Posted by Mango_Frutti View Post I get the feeling India has changed a lot. I used to travel often to India but got put off by the rapid change.

I'm thinking,
1) There are a lot more Indians around traveling as domestic tourists
2) It's nosier more crowded
3) It's more expensive
4) More crime, dislike of foreigners
5) Difficult to find peace and solitude.

I'm planning, Fort Kochi, Varkala, Kodiakanal, Rameswaram, Pondi, Mamallapuram.

Am i going to be disappointed?
1) Yes. Don't understand however why that's a problem?
2) I mean there were a billion people in 2010 so it's hardly quiet.
3) everywhere is, it's called inflation.
4) meh. More reporting, yes. More crimes targeted against foreigners? Purely anecdotally, no. I certainly don't feel more hated over the last 7 years.
5) no different in most regards. The major cities will prove a challenge as they always have. But the right places will offer as much peace and solitude as they did 8 years ago.

As for whether you're going to be disappointed, I think there's a decent chance. Sounds to me like you're looking for problems before you've already arrived. Add to that you've picked a pretty heavily touristed and established route (which is more likely than not to have suffered from your above mentioned observations).

India is still the best place in the world for me, despite all of the change. It may be worth however building an itinerary with your above dislikes in mind instead of deciding an itinerary first and then outlining what you don't want to experience!

Good luck!

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You are looking for peace and quiet in Kodaikanal and mamallapuram???. What is wrong with Indian tourists? and how can that be a disapointment?

Things change - get used to it, you can never go back. I hope I am wrong but there seems a note of " Things were different in my young days..." in your post.

They will be and that's what you should expect.

Agree with the above posts but would add that one thing that has changed is the lack of what the Ozzies used to call the "cultural cringe" where undue respect would be paid to a Brit purely because of their nationality. The post colonial genuflection has almost gone.
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How has India changed since 2010?

As India develops, changes are inevitable, and in my view, needed.

However, one thing I have noticed is a greater religious divide within the country.
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And in India , more the things change , more they remain the same. Have to just scratch the surface.
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My point about domestic tourists is that if there are 50 million Indians traveling this puts a lot of pressure on 5-10 foreign tourists for accommodation.

I was watching this Varkala video

seems to be take recently, i was surprised at how crowded the beach was now in the off season.

As for Kodaikanal i always stayed at Woodlands and spend the day hiking in the forest which i assume is the same. Mamallapuram is crowded and dirty but walking up the beach was always tranquil and void of peopl.
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Anybody looking for peace and quiet or a lack of Indians shouldn't be thinking of boarding a plane to India in the first place.
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Originally Posted by BholeBaba View Post Anybody looking for peace and quiet or a lack of Indians shouldn't be thinking of boarding a plane to India in the first place.
I don't even have that option
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Originally Posted by jituyadav View Post I don't even have that option
At least you can warn us when you are heading for a beach! Kindly try to give at least one month's notice*...






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Of course India has changed,the world is in a state of constant flux.
Have you not changed in the last seven years ? I certainly have .
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More dengue.
4G-LTE.
Rs. 2000 notes.
Shiny new airports everywhere.
Hindu fanatics on the march.
New Trump buildings.

It's a whole new India. Same as the old India.
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Same ,same. But different ?

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