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Hey,

Read your post regarding the trip...Glad that you had a good time.
We are also planning a trip to India in October. Could you please send us the contact information of the place you stayed in Agra?

Thanks in advance
cheers
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Hello. New to the forum. Travelling to India Oct 23 and returning Nov 20. Will be spending first two weeks with my boyfriend with a quick stop in Delhi and moving on to Mumbai to head south to Goa and Kerala. I will be staying on alone for two weeks after he leaves and feel a bit overwhelmed by what I should see/where I should go. I was considering Punjba (Amritsar) and perhaps a jaunt to Lahore. But I am also intrigued by the Northeast Provinces. I'd like a mix of culture, wildlife, magical urban sort of mix (maybe we all are). But really I am open to suggestions. Thanks for your help.
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Tour guide/taxi driver costs

I need some advice on travel guides.

I have managed to locate someone who is willing to act as a guide.
They speak good English.
What sort of price per day for a guide is regarded as fair?
Does the client have to pay his food, transport and lodging expenses?
He will be guiding in Punjab, Himachal and Haridwar/Hemkund.
He will be expected to make logistical & travel arrangements.
With regards to travel to Hemkund will he be required to provide his own trekking equipment?

What is the deal with taxi drivers, are their food and lodging expenses to be paid for by the client?
Please can someone advise on rates.

Kind Regards

OB
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Originally Posted by posnerkatz View Post India Trip Report---3 weeks in Delhi, Agra and Rajasthan

Delhi---
The city is mostly filthy. There are a few nice little shopping areas---hard to find. Early sunday am one can rollerblade or bike the elegant Rajpath.
Skip the monuments if you will be travelling in Agra or Jaipur. The National Museum and the Crafts Museum are great, though a bit dusty.
Gandhi and Neru's monuments are full of posters of historical information---like reading a big book---stay outside first at Gandhi's.

Agra---
Another dirty city, but with 4 gorgeous Mughal monuments---The Taj Mahal, Agra fort, the "baby taj", and Akbar's Museoleum. You can take the 3 hour train at 6 am from Delhi and see it all in one crowded day if you hire a vehicle. I did not find much else to do.

Fatehpur Sikri & Bharatpur---
Beautiful deserted Mogul city---worth an hour or 2. Nothing at the famous (and easy to get to) Keoladeo Ghana bird sanctuary---a dusty road with scrubby bushes and not many birds.

Jaipur---
Nicer city, still dirty. Amber Fort---nice to wander in & wonderful to be in the courtyard with the elephants coming in. Too long a line to actually ride an elephant---perhaps if one arrived at 7 am? Good to stop at the rug makers on the way back---nice showing of the manufacturing. Also fun to visit fancy jewelers and try on $29,000 necklace/earrings combo. Palace of the Winds---a very impressive sight. City Palace---OK, not great---nice peacock sculptures. Janter Mantar---very interesting observatory.
Stayed as guest of the owner in a large, clean suite at Mansingh Towers---very nice management.

Ajmer/Pushkar---
Too tired to explore well. Interesting to see people praying at the dargah tomb/mosque.
The Jain Red Temple, with its golden diorama world, is stunning.
Main Hindu temple in Pushkar not too exciting.

Udaipur---
Lovely little city. Best area to stay is lal ghat. Stay or eat at Jagat Niwas Palace Hotel. Visit Bagore-Ki-Haveli before 5:30 to see rooms recreated to show how they were lived in. Return at 7 pm for the open-air dance performance. Take a 1 hour boat ride to see the palace, havelis,and people bathing and washing their clothes. The City Palace is nice too. If you have trouble climbing stairs you can enter the Jagdish Temple from the side.
I rode a horse around the countryside for 3 days with Krishna Ranch.com. They took good care of me.
My horse and saddle were comfortable, the food was very good Indian vegetarian, the tent was lovely, and the cot was comfortable. We saw small villages with old men manning ox driven water-wheels, fields of mustard and other crops, Kumbalgarh fort in the distance, antelopes in the wildlife area, and ended up at gorgeous Ranakpur Jain temples. Villagers said hello and came near for photos. I ride for short distances only and was quite sore and tired riding 4-5 hours each day. Krishna ranch will pick you up in Udaipur for a 2 hour ride also.

Ranakpur---
Stunning---do not miss! (But only good for 1-2 hours, unless you hike around and picnic. Ranakpur Hill Resort has clean rooms, a lovely pool (cold in winter), and a charming outdoor dinner.

Jodhpur---
A passing taxi took me for Rs.500! We stopped for the driver's tea and at a roadside shrine. I asked to stop to see Rohet heritage hotel and got the grand tour---it's beautiful but in a tiny village. Their horses are handsome.
Immediately got a beautiful,large,clean room with marble floors and bath right in the middle of town at Haveli Inn Pal for Rs.1800. Management helped me get overnight train tickets for Jaisalmer for the next night, but I could have done it myself easier---internet with indiamike.com and a quick trip to the RR station.
Good food at the Inn's rooftop restaurant, and they let you hang out there. Even a better view at Indique restaurant on the other side of the haveli.
Mehrangarh Fort is the best because of the art displays and the audiotape. I'm sorry I did not listen to all of the extra bits. The clocktower market is dirty and crowded and fun, though nothing special is there. Tailors will trim a (Rs.50) shawl in gold tape for less than Rs.50.

Jaisalmer---
Overnight train comfortable. (I do love sleeping on trains). 3AC good for sheets and pillow, but sleepercar would be OK if you brought a sheet of your own.
J---Fun and touristy. Beautiful Jain temples and havelis. Lots of shops with embroideries. Well run Shahi Palace picks up at the train (5 am), gives a temporary room to sleep,etc. Great rooftop hang-out restaurant with fort view, small clean rooms for Rs.600 or so. Better to stay in the fort---easy to find a room.
Shahi organized a 3pm-8pm safari (Rs.850) with a jeep visit to some royal cenotaph (tomb)---pretty and peaceful, and an unnecessary Jain temple before a long rattling ride into the scrubby desert to ride camels for an hour into the sunset on the sand dunes. On the way back we had the truck driver stop so we could marvel at the stars away from town. Shahi provided me with a shower before my night train.

Ranthambore---
Logistically should have done this between Bhatapur and Jaipur. Great train connection from Jaisalmer to Jodhpur to Sawai Madhpur. Got a lift right to the forest office and was lucky enough to find a 5 person Indian family willing to share a Gypsy (jeep). Bought hat (Rs.150) and t-shirt (Rs.100) at the enterance. Saw a sleeping tiger 5 minutes into the park--surrounded by 4 jeeps and a canter (truck).
Got a last minute clean, basic room with bath (Rs.450) at Aditya Resort and had a delicious dinner outside by the pool at The Regency next door.
Moved to the Regency (Rs.3000 with all meals---1/2 the regular price) next am after a beautiful, tigerless, 7am game drive in a canter (noisier than a jeep). No reservations again. Shopped in pm---ate, slept, and was escourted to the 6:33 train by the hotel staff.

Delhi---
Met by friends at the train---lunch, museum, shopping, dinner, airport to fly home. 2 hours early is good for an international flight with Air India (comfortable coach).

Notes: All lunches and dinners at restaurants around Rs.400.---Might as well eat well. Indian food is healthy and delicious, but even if one is careful one often gets "Delhi Belly".


Thanks to all at Indiamike, especially Steve Ber
Hi Found your thread very interesting. I am travelling to Rajastan with my 16yr old son for a four week holiday.Never been before. We have planned a lot more in our four week stay but do you think we are doing too much.
Delhi, Amritsar Delhi Jaisalmer, Jaipur, Jodphur,Agra Ranthambone.Veranasi, Delhi. Most of the travelling is by car with driver with two overnight 2ac train journeys.
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It is always good to get new unbiased views on these trips. I would love to visit Rajastan and this thread has added a lot to my knowledge.
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Very informative article, I'll be spending a liitle bit of time in Rajasthan in November (Bharatpur and Pushkar) and really looking forward to it. If those two towns impress me I'll be back for more.
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I do not know if I have to be insulted or amused by a foreigner's account of India. I was searching for information on Jaipur as I will be visiting the city in December and I found this thread quite disturbing as I am an Indian.Why do people try to judge a country and its people in few days of their visit. The travelers generally come across some unsavoury people and give out an impression that whole of India is unsafe, dishonest and dirty to visit.To hear some people it is as if we had all the cheats of the world. This serves some hospitality industry people who go out of their way to make the foreign tourists feel like royalty. I am even afraid to look at a foreigner as it would be considered staring. So our family strictly avoid looking at them. Even if I want to help when they are stranded some where I avoid doing so because of their suspicious nature.“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness.” – Mark Twain
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Originally Posted by Ashsar View Post I am even afraid to look at a foreigner as it would be considered staring. So our family strictly avoid looking at them. Even if I want to help when they are stranded some where I avoid doing so because of their suspicious nature.“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness.” – Mark Twain
Just what I felt too (and posted much later somewhere in here) when I read a lot of posts on this site a while back. May be better to stay in the background and try to help and hope that atleast a few of them do change some of their opinions.
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Nicely written trip report parabol64, although it does generate mixed feelings to read a review about India's places and people from a foreign tourist's perspective.
Link to my trip report on Gir at http://www.indiamike.com/india/india...eview-t153275/
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Very good article

Well done mate,

You have written a very interesting travelogue. A commendable effort indeed!
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ranjan

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I just came back from Mumbai and Goa, and I found the majority of Indians to be very nice people. You get a few chancers which you get everywhere, but you have to remember in india everyday is a fight for survival for most so thats just what they do...trying to survive. You just need to use your common sense also like anywhere else in the world.

India does take allot of getting use to for your average westerner and it is very overwhelming in the beginning, but most of all you need to take the time to get use to Indians as people and the way they do things, react to things, their approach and various other things. Because we are just very different so manny ways, but thats half of the fun of traveling meeting different people from different cultures otherwise it would just be boring and you should rather stay home in London or where ever you are from. And as for the food, i thought the food was the best i ever had...loved it.

Im from South Africa and i found India very cheap, so Brits should shut up and stop complaining with their pounds that they arrive with in India. Spend 8000 rupees a night and get yourself a really nice hotel, it will significantly improve your overall enjoyment, and it wont make the average westerner broke either.
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Well seeing that he will be going to all those places you mentioned specifically for you, he will obviously not do it at his expence,so it will most likely get built into his total rate or fee.
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Our first trip to India, going south

Hi, I'm new to this, so please forgive me if this information is on previous threads. We are going to Southern India for the first time in October this year, our international flights are booked in and out of Mumbai. We are thinking of 2 nights in Mumbai, then we fly to cochin, thinking of 2/3days in Fort Kochi and our last 4 nights are back up in Goa. We are at a loss as what to do in the middle, were thinking of getting a train up to ooty and spending a night there and then train/fly from coimbatore to Goa. Anyone's thoughts on this would be much appreciated, would ooty weather be bad in October?
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