Blondes- to dye or not to dye? & women's wear, women's safety etc

machadinha · Nov 21st, 2007, 01:53

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Originally Posted by Onecuponly

Hahaa, thankyou so much everyone your responses, they really made me smile

LOL. Don't let anyone scare you off. It's a friendly bunch, if a little heated and passionate sometimes. Good preparation for India, I'd say

Sama · Nov 21st, 2007, 02:04

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Originally Posted by Onecuponly

I should have recognised sooner that a website of such high calibre could not be govourned on testosterone alone.

got that right, sister!

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Originally Posted by Onecuponly

my hair is umm.. kinda golden blonde I guess... will that really make a difference?

no.

now go and enjoy India!

dhans · Nov 21st, 2007, 02:18

My wife is a real blonde. She really got good at fast karate hits in reaction to being eve-teased after a couple of weeks India.

Don't worry about your haircolour, brush up your martial arts.

(well I wanted to use that smiley at least once).

Hans

machadinha · Nov 21st, 2007, 02:32

I've heard you say that before, Hans. Now all joking aside, in my experience getting angry let alone physical in India is generally (very) ill-advised, although I suspect women may have some very mild leeway in this, provided they keep it moderate and there are enough bystanders around.

What are your views on this? I (as a foreign man) found you may suddenly find yourself very much a stranger in a strange land, with not too much sympathy for your case around. It's just not done, it seems, and mob violence aka mass hysteria there is something better steered the hell away from. All that friendliness may very well suddenly turn itself inside out. Or that was my observation, anyway.

Not that it was ever a real problem, just from the few occasions when I got close to it, either because of my own stupidity, or observing that of others, not least of them locals.

Brisso · Nov 21st, 2007, 03:30

I think there is general support for women being eve-teased who retaliate - Indians do not approve of the practice any more than any other group of people ...

stewie · Nov 21st, 2007, 03:52

Oh how I have smiled at this thread! I am 6' tall with long blonde wavy/curly hair and get as many stares in the UK as I do in india. I generally clip my hair up but when ladies stare at me in say markets and shops and look at my hair, I shake it loose and receive gasps, they then smile and shake my hand and off i go. I have also used this to many advantages say, when I am lost and need assistance, I smile and I generally get what assistance I need. Yes, occasionally I have had the odd not too nice incident but then I get this where ever I go. I dont want to sound big headed or over confident but it hasnt been a problem and I wouldnt let it get to be a problem, enjoy the colour and attention and get on with it! I do

Sama · Nov 21st, 2007, 04:03

and my hair gets scrutinized because I'm a white woman with hair like a black woman -- dark, frizzy, tight, shoulder length quasi cork-screw curls -- on a good day.

when I visited a women's shelter during my first trip a resident woman who could not speak English came up to me, touched my hair, smiled, touched her own hair, and hugged me. the translator told me that she said I had hair like hers and she did indeed have wirey hair like mine, not smooth and long like is usually seen on indian women.

of course on a bad day in India my hair looks like sai baba's!

ScarletLSG · Nov 21st, 2007, 04:32

I have blonde/brown hair, and want to get a henna rinse when I arrive. NOT because I'm worried about people looking at my blonde hair, but because I just WANT to. Can someone tell me how long the rinse lasts???? And what to pay for something like this in Delhi?

Thanks.

ScarletLSG

machadinha · Nov 21st, 2007, 04:34

You can henna your hair at home and see how it works.

Depends on your hair color and structure and so on, it's hard to give any fast and secure rules on it. And there are many types and brands and colors of henna.

ScarletLSG · Nov 21st, 2007, 04:39

Where the heck does one buy Henna hair dye in the U.S. -- btw, I'm in Hawaii. I've never even seen it. Sorry for the thread hijack.

ScarletLSG

machadinha · Nov 21st, 2007, 04:47

No, not at all. Had considered filling it in.

No idea; where I live you'd either look for some organic food store, or for your friendly local Indian/Pakistani (or most likely Surinamese) grocery annex cosmetics store. No idea about where you live.

But look in that general direction; Asian hairdressers might be another lead, if you have any of those.

It's very common here for folks not at all hippie'ish or anything to henna their hair, I'm a little surprised it's not where you live. Major brands carry it, in that sense these days you could find it at any cosmetics store.

the opoponax · Nov 21st, 2007, 04:51

You can often find henna dyes in beauty supply shops in the US, or in health food stores that sell natural beauty products.

To be honest, I've never been impressed with the results in terms of people I know who use it. It gives hair a really unnatural color -- nothing anybody would actually buy as your real color. And yet not as nice as dyes that are meant to achieve an unusual effect. And I find it looks weirder the lighter your hair is. It can sometimes give sort of a pretty auburn shine to hair that is naturally very dark, though.

Also, keep in mind that the lighter your hair is, naturally, the longer dyes will last in it. It's hard to tell how long henna will specifically last in your hair without having ever seen you, but that's a good general guideline.

Sama · Nov 21st, 2007, 04:56

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Originally Posted by the opoponax

I've never been impressed with the results in terms of people I know who use it. It gives hair a really unnatural color -- nothing anybody would actually buy as your real color. And yet not as nice as dyes that are meant to achieve an unusual effect. And I find it looks weirder the lighter your hair is. It can sometimes give sort of a pretty auburn shine to hair that is naturally very dark, though.

very true. unless the women (non-Indian) I've seen somehow did not do it correctly, I think it looks like

and as opoponax says, I've only seen it really work with very dark hair to give it an auburn sheen.

karuna · Nov 21st, 2007, 05:07

Just a reminder to watch out for certain supposedly all-natural black henna that in fact contains chemicals. Not nice.

Black Henna Warning

dzibead · Nov 21st, 2007, 05:12

I'm chiming in kind of late here, but I couldn't resist pointing out that if you read through the tens of thousands of posts here, you'll find that conspicuously absent are horror stories by women saying that being blond and/or having short hair caused them to have big problems in India.

In some places (but not everywhere) you'll probably get stared at. After all, you're white, you're a foreigner, and you'll stick out in a lot of places you may go. So is that a big deal? It shouldn't be. Or if it is, maybe you should re-think the whole India venture because there will be even bigger pains in the neck that you'll encounter and if sometimes being stared at or being the focus of attention is unthinkable I don't know how you'll cope with the other stuff.

I'm with everybody above who said that the advice to dye your hair was ridiculous. I'll go further: it's frakkin' asinine! (Speaking as a woman with short hair that's kind of medium brown.)

Nov 21st, 2007, 02:18	#18
dhans Uru Buru member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,241	My wife is a real blonde. She really got good at fast karate hits in reaction to being eve-teased after a couple of weeks India. Don't worry about your haircolour, brush up your martial arts. (well I wanted to use that smiley at least once). Hans __________________ Tips for trips to India with (young) children: India with kids Stories about our travels in India: Journal

Nov 21st, 2007, 03:52	#21
stewie will try most things once! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Haverhill, Great Britain and kerala Posts: 30	Blondes- to dye or not to dye? Oh how I have smiled at this thread! I am 6' tall with long blonde wavy/curly hair and get as many stares in the UK as I do in india. I generally clip my hair up but when ladies stare at me in say markets and shops and look at my hair, I shake it loose and receive gasps, they then smile and shake my hand and off i go. I have also used this to many advantages say, when I am lost and need assistance, I smile and I generally get what assistance I need. Yes, occasionally I have had the odd not too nice incident but then I get this where ever I go. I dont want to sound big headed or over confident but it hasnt been a problem and I wouldnt let it get to be a problem, enjoy the colour and attention and get on with it! I do __________________ from Stewie

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Nov 21st, 2007, 02:32	#19
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 8,479	I've heard you say that before, Hans. Now all joking aside, in my experience getting angry let alone physical in India is generally (very) ill-advised, although I suspect women may have some very mild leeway in this, provided they keep it moderate and there are enough bystanders around. What are your views on this? I (as a foreign man) found you may suddenly find yourself very much a stranger in a strange land, with not too much sympathy for your case around. It's just not done, it seems, and mob violence aka mass hysteria there is something better steered the hell away from. All that friendliness may very well suddenly turn itself inside out. Or that was my observation, anyway. Not that it was ever a real problem, just from the few occasions when I got close to it, either because of my own stupidity, or observing that of others, not least of them locals.

Nov 21st, 2007, 03:30	#20
Brisso Specialist muddler Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 339	I think there is general support for women being eve-teased who retaliate - Indians do not approve of the practice any more than any other group of people ...

Nov 21st, 2007, 04:03	#22
Sama aka Chakra Khan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: the India inside my heart Posts: 4,860	and my hair gets scrutinized because I'm a white woman with hair like a black woman -- dark, frizzy, tight, shoulder length quasi cork-screw curls -- on a good day. when I visited a women's shelter during my first trip a resident woman who could not speak English came up to me, touched my hair, smiled, touched her own hair, and hugged me. the translator told me that she said I had hair like hers and she did indeed have wirey hair like mine, not smooth and long like is usually seen on indian women. of course on a bad day in India my hair looks like sai baba's!

Nov 21st, 2007, 04:32	#23
ScarletLSG Maharani Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kailua, Hawaii Posts: 173	I have blonde/brown hair, and want to get a henna rinse when I arrive. NOT because I'm worried about people looking at my blonde hair, but because I just WANT to. Can someone tell me how long the rinse lasts???? And what to pay for something like this in Delhi? Thanks. ScarletLSG

Nov 21st, 2007, 04:34	#24
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 8,479	You can henna your hair at home and see how it works. Depends on your hair color and structure and so on, it's hard to give any fast and secure rules on it. And there are many types and brands and colors of henna.

Nov 21st, 2007, 04:39	#25
ScarletLSG Maharani Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kailua, Hawaii Posts: 173	Where the heck does one buy Henna hair dye in the U.S. -- btw, I'm in Hawaii. I've never even seen it. Sorry for the thread hijack. ScarletLSG

Nov 21st, 2007, 04:47	#26
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 8,479	No, not at all. Had considered filling it in. No idea; where I live you'd either look for some organic food store, or for your friendly local Indian/Pakistani (or most likely Surinamese) grocery annex cosmetics store. No idea about where you live. But look in that general direction; Asian hairdressers might be another lead, if you have any of those. It's very common here for folks not at all hippie'ish or anything to henna their hair, I'm a little surprised it's not where you live. Major brands carry it, in that sense these days you could find it at any cosmetics store.

Nov 21st, 2007, 04:51	#27
the opoponax Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brooklyn, via New Orleans Posts: 1,022	You can often find henna dyes in beauty supply shops in the US, or in health food stores that sell natural beauty products. To be honest, I've never been impressed with the results in terms of people I know who use it. It gives hair a really unnatural color -- nothing anybody would actually buy as your real color. And yet not as nice as dyes that are meant to achieve an unusual effect. And I find it looks weirder the lighter your hair is. It can sometimes give sort of a pretty auburn shine to hair that is naturally very dark, though. Also, keep in mind that the lighter your hair is, naturally, the longer dyes will last in it. It's hard to tell how long henna will specifically last in your hair without having ever seen you, but that's a good general guideline.

Nov 21st, 2007, 05:07	#29
karuna Undeserving of a title Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 770	Just a reminder to watch out for certain supposedly all-natural black henna that in fact contains chemicals. Not nice. Black Henna Warning

Nov 21st, 2007, 05:12	#30
dzibead Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern California Posts: 1,685	I'm chiming in kind of late here, but I couldn't resist pointing out that if you read through the tens of thousands of posts here, you'll find that conspicuously *absent* are horror stories by women saying that being blond and/or having short hair caused them to have big problems in India. In some places (but not everywhere) you'll probably get stared at. After all, you're white, you're a foreigner, and you'll stick out in a lot of places you may go. So is that a big deal? It shouldn't be. Or if it is, maybe you should re-think the whole India venture because there will be even bigger pains in the neck that you'll encounter and if sometimes being stared at or being the focus of attention is unthinkable I don't know how you'll cope with the other stuff. I'm with everybody above who said that the advice to dye your hair was ridiculous. I'll go further: it's frakkin' *asinine*! (Speaking as a woman with short hair that's kind of medium brown.)

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