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Old Apr 18th, 2008, 13:49   #31
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hi khandoma we mist you

Thats a nice discription thank you.
Here in The Netherlands in the place that I come from, the average price is a bit lower then in France. Usually around €25 for haircut + shampoo at the more trendy shops, but I live in a reasonable large city. I think in Amsterdam or Rotterdam you pay a lot more.

I have a feeling that the prices in India today are a lot more then a few years ago because of the booming business and the rise of the economie. Everyone knows that India is the fastest growing market in the world. So stress and beauty became a big factor in the minds of the people. That means more work for the salons etc. But the question is, how high do the prices go? Would it be the same situation as in for example Dubai? where you pay a "lot" of dollars for a massage?
how fast are new salons comingn? and are the salons that now have a nice profit grow (more employees, larger building)? and what about the rules and regulations of the gouvernement?
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Old Apr 21st, 2008, 23:12   #32
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Hey Friend,

I'm definitely neither a sociologist nor a geopolitician. I'm just an average gal who badly needs a haircut I understand your questioning, but darned if I can answer.
All I can say is :
This beauty set-price pampering I paid 800 Rs last year, I paid 300 ten years ago. You do the inflation math.
I'd say, from an uneducated but practical point of view, that China is growing at least as fast, in large cities, that is. It really wouldn't cross my mind to have a shampoo, let alone a manicure, anywhere but in the large Southern China cities; in Shanghai haircut prices have been multiplied by close to 10 from twenty years ago. From what I can tell it follows the increase in the wealth of the ruling classes.
I see your point in that modern-day stress brings more people to massage and self-pampering. But coming from an oriental culture myself I'd like to add that beauty and body care has always been part of Indian life. We see it as superficial, superfluous ; they (sorry for the generalization) consider it basic. A mommy told me that massaging her baby with mustard oil wasn't cosmetic, it was common sense (supposed to be good for the bones) and she expected the child to continue the habit throughout his life.
So, how's your paper coming along ? What is it, graduation paper? It probably looks like a thesis by now Good luck anyway.
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Old Apr 22nd, 2008, 13:49   #33
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ah ok, didn`t know that. I`ve read a lot of articles, but most of them write as if the beauty market is completely new for the Indian people. But when you look at the history, you`ll see that a lot of massage techniques come from Asia. It is idd the marketing promotions of many companies that give a false image.

But I also think its becoming a new hype because they can spend more money on luxury and the growing rolemodels in Bollywood. Last month I read a article about the color of the skin in India. How lighter the skin how higher the rank in the society. Companies put dangerous products on the market for a lighter skin and sell them as sandwitches, as they say.

My paper is idd for graduation. And aspects as consumer thoughts, consumer behavior, consumer spending, how often they go to a salon, how many salons there are, where are the most salons, and so on are all aspects that have to be investigated. This paper will eventually be used for beauticians students and teachers, so that they have a clear picture how India looks like when it comes to the market of massages and make-up and so on.

that`s why I ask a lot of questions
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Old Apr 22nd, 2008, 14:57   #34
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Hi there,

and and at what you're saying on skin colour. I had no idea it was as clear as that in India, though it certainly is in the parts of Africa I've been to, and worse in the French West Indies from what people there told me - you wouldn't believe the list of names they have to designate the different proportions of "black" and "white" blood mixes. Hopeless ?

About the Indian beauty market : my guess would be that what's new is indeed the size and industrial aspect of the market. Massage, hair care, henna, perfume, seem to have been around forever. But it was mostly done inside the homes (or, in my Mediterranean culture, in bathing houses, "hammams" or Turkish baths ; not sure what the Indian equivalent would be).
Ten years ago I saw plenty of beauty salons, but many were on the traditional side, offering henna painting on the hands, herbal hair masks, etc. They did carry plenty of Western products, too. A woman likes to be fashionable in every respect.
What I do enjoy in India is that you can have it all : buy your essential oils at the local market, your shampoo in a supermarket, your skin mask in an ayurvedic pharmacy and your nail polish at the counter of a trendy beauty salon. (Yes I buy nail polish on the road. So sue me In India I walk with open sandals, and no daughter of my mother's is walking barefoot with no polish on. Neither are many Indian ladies.) I hope this culture mix will stay on.
There is a lady on this forum who specializes in henna, you may want to look for her posts and perhaps PM her for details on classic Indian beauty.

I like that your paper will have practical applications, helping students and pros. It's a shame that university work isn't more connected to the active world where I live. It's an added motivation for you, I assume, and also it puts you in a professional frame of mind, which is excellent training for when you start working (if you haven't already). Again, my best wishes.
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Old Apr 22nd, 2008, 15:24   #35
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its idd very sad...
here is such an article I found:

http://specktra.net/f179/do-indian-w...er-skin-72956/

I shall contact her. She also might have some interesting info. The specificer the info, the better the report, the better the results (for me ) and ofcourse better for the students and teachers that are going to use it

I was wondering, what do Indian people think of european people? Are for example european businesspeople welcome in India? Are there simular aspects between the continents? Or is the situation the same as in many moslim countries, where the western society isn`t always accepted because of the many differences?
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Old Apr 23rd, 2008, 14:43   #36
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@ Puchoo, how was your flight last weekend? Was it for business or plesure
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Old Apr 23rd, 2008, 14:51   #37
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well , it was for pleasure. had to attend a marriage and pretty keen since it was a traditional Maharashtrian marriage..had never attended that before...all in all a good , but rushed, trip.

Where are we now with regard to this post?

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Old Apr 29th, 2008, 13:46   #38
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sorry for my late reaction, i was also gone for a few days to a an uncle of mine. I only have to work today and then we have an official holiday that is called Queensday and another official day off. So its going to be a hell of a party

Lets see, I`m still busy writing the part of the consumer behavior and so on. Did you asked mrs Puchoo how she things about the "world" of spas and salons ?
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Old May 6th, 2008, 19:13   #39
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finally i`m back.
that was one hell of a week.

I contacted the henna girl but I didnt receive any answer. This girl lives in Canada? and is one of the best henna drawers in the world?

hope to hear from you
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Hello Friends,

Puchoo, that must have been a very nice wedding.
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We're just about to surrender our paper and get graded, I guess...

Dancohr, I believe we're talking about the same person : she joined IndiaMike on July 07 and has last been visiting the site on the 23rd of April. The second part of her name on IM is the indian mix of spices.

If she's not around to answer I would suggest you post a new, precise query, maybe in the Health & Well-Being forum here. It might be more likely to attract the attention of ladies online.
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Old May 15th, 2008, 21:14   #41
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great idea, I will open a new thread next week with a different subject. It might give some new input. I`m almost done with my research. I have only 3 weeks left and then it has to be done.

we will keep in touch!
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