having a baby in india?

cyberbaba

hiya folks,

quick question.

let's say you are in india and your partner gives birth to a stylish little baby

does that give you (or the baby) any special status when it comes to visas, citizenship, buying property or anything like that?

sorry, to much going on today to comb through indiamike's neuronet to get an answer.

any help appreciated!

Shaktipalooza

Question is do you have the health care system figured out well enough to ensure the health and safety of the baby & mother?

We're moving to India. My wife is Indian, she was born and raised in India [EDIT: was US]. We chose to have our first child in the US. Ultimately deciding it was too much of a risk not knowing which hospitals to go to or which doctors to trust, not to mention issues with tropical diseases such as malaria, chikungunya, denghi fever, etc.

Also, we've talked to many of our Indian friends about having a baby in India. The general consensus was it's much like buying gold in India, you need to have a really strong, historical relationship with the vendor to minimize the risk of being taken for a ride. How would this happen with a pregnancy? One way is you could end up having an unnecessary cesarean section. The doctor makes more money that way, and who's to say it wasn't the right choice?

That leads to the other issue, style of care. In India it's far to common for a doctor to have an authoritarian stance on the health of the patient. What the doctor says, the patient does, no questions asked. We choose to be much more involved than that and decided it would be far easier to find the style of care we desired here in the US.

We now have a wonderful 8month old son and will be making the move by fall.

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cyberbaba

hmmm.

my son was born in northern thailand in an clean international hospital. 20 minutes into labour, the doctor tried to panic us into doing a very costly c-section by shouting "fetal distress fetal distress must do c- section!!!" i had been watching the heart rates and both were fine so i used an old jedi mind trick and shut his brain down. he struggled back into position and his next move was a plan to open her up a bit... but i shut that down as well. thing is, if it had been a western doctor i'd probably caved. fortunately i'd seen a trick or two in my time out there and this was one of them. he came around our resting room a few times... tail tucked neatly between his legs. shame.

i'm not sure if indian doctors try the same bullshit tactics on the unsuspecting so i'll opt for a midwife next time. we have a good one in india.

tropical diseases are a non issue. driving habits are.

still looking for an answer to the original question.

oh and uh shakti... seems your all over the place with your plans or non plans.

Shaktipalooza

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eileen

I had a baby in Delhi, as have many of my friends. It was great. The care from the second month of preganacy (which is when I arriaved) to the end was top notch. I would ask other westerners who have had babies here to give you the names of some Dr.s. Yes, there are very scary experiences to be had if you don't get a good Dr., a good lab, good radiologist and good hospital.

My husband in Indian and so our child could be as well. Not sure this s the case if you are both from elsewhere. We originally got my son an Indian passport and then had to give it up because as an American (by virtue of me being his mother) he is only allowed to enter the US on a US passport. India says if you hold there passport you can hold no other. Gettting the Indian Passport, and then finding soneone to return it to was AMAZINGLY difficult!

There is this: For those who are eligable to hold an Indian passport, but who wish to be citizens of another country, you can be a OCI (out of country Indian), which will help with all that you mentioned. Details are at www.mha.nic.in. The questions remains, does your child have this status simply by being born in India? Good luck!

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eileen

I just checked the site. If your chld was born in India before 1987 she/he would have been a citz. But looks like you missed the deadline-- they changed the rules, one of the parents has to be Indian and the other not and illigal alien. sorry

Nick-H

This thread seems to have degenerated from a silly question to gibberish in under ten posts!

Eileen --- welcome to IndiaMike.com.

Arriving in a crazy thread with a breath of sanity!

But... are there any countries that give you citizenship just because you happened to pop out of the womb there?

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Nick-H

...But I guess that, if baby is due while you are here anyway, it is not so silly to see what the options are.

Sorry about that

Shaktipalooza

Yes, the US.

We also have a interesting policy with Cuban refugees called wet foot / dry foot. If a refugee is caught in the water between Cuba and the US they get sent back to cuba. If they set foot on US soil, they get to stay.

capt_mahajan

From wiki, so take it with a pinch of salt.. italics mine

"Any person born in India on or after 26 January 1950 but prior to the commencement of the 1986 Act on 1 July 1987 was a citizen of India by birth. A person born in India on or after 1 July 1987 was a citizen of India if either parent was a citizen of India at the time of the birth. Those born in India on or after 3 December 2004 are considered citizens of India only if both of their parents are citizens of India or if one parent is a citizen of India and the other is not an illegal migrant at the time of their birth"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_... ship_by_Birth

cyberbaba

thanks for the input folks.

nick, i asked this is question because we were told our son may be able to buy land in thailand because of his birth there. i have yet to check this out though.

thought it worth a shot.

Nick-H

OK, folks... I'm way off the mark on this one.

I'll get my coat...

Come to think of it, a two-year-old friend of mine in UK has a British passport, although both her parents are Indian Citizens. But they do have PR (Permanent Residency) status.

Where I was coming from was vague memories of illegal imigrants in UK getting pregnant in the hope that this would get them the chance to stay as they would then have a British child --- and I don't think this worked at all.

What's the procedure when having a baby abroad? Do you register the birth at your own embassy?

Nick-H

Captain, here's the quote from the MHA site: Wikki seems to have got this one right.

Nick-H

Here's a curious one on citizenship that I never noticed before..The full stuff on acquiring citizenship is here on the Ministry of Home Affairs site

edwardseco

A useful link, gracias Nick..