scared of hippies

nycank

SO you *did* buy those carpets did 'ya not ?

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Nick-H

Nope.

Unfortunately my application for a Cornish business visa was refused; I had to go as a tourist.




(with apologies to Annie )

Gardener972

This is an interesting thread! Preach on brothers!!

Khak

reading wikipedia on HIPPIE I was surprised not to find any mention of India in the first 3 paragraphs......in fact there is hardly any mention of India in the whole article...

does it mean that hippie scene in India played a very minor role in the whole movement?

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Nick-H

Even I am not really old enough to answer that question, but I would say that America played a vastly bigger role in the "hippy" movement (probably a misnomer) and that India's role was very small.

The most adventurous, as ever, may have travelled to India, and, of course, a handful of musicians famously did, but I don't think India contributed much to the scene.

freenote

It was from Europe that most who trode the "hippie trail" originated from . There was a scattering of people from other continents of course ,The main "others" were American draft dodgers . There choice was to go and fight in Vietnam or run . A lot of them ended up in Amsterdam and from there onto the road to India.Go east young man but not to Vietnam

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hill spirits

wake up guys this is 2009 not 1960 the hippies are long gone , i guess u all were dozing they people you see nowa days are party freaks, drug lovers,backpackingjust out of my parents apartmentkind of youth and full time ravers not hippies

freenote

yep ,changes happen , a lot of the hippies of the 60s are now bankers, trust managers ,NGO organizers ,and of course in the IT business . Times and people change and grow

machadinha

I think it was firmly on the trail alright, along with a number of other destinations.

Wikipedia has its notable blind spots; their coverage of modern social movements that still continue in some form or another I've found particularly bad for this. It seems that history pre-dating a certain point can be covered there quite well; and then stuff on such movements will fill up with very recent takes not too informed by actual history on them. So there's something of a glaring hiatus between say articles covering (at least in the field of social history again) the pre-20th century, and then those covering quite recent or ongoing movements or events. Their articles on e.g. the punk or the general European squatter's movements and related subjects (which I happen to think I know a thing or two about, since I sort of grew up in and with them, and have indeed taken in a lot of information about them) are mostly really really terrible, and seem to have been written by teenagers who discovered such concepts yesterday. A shame, since there's actually plenty of documentation in those fields, if perhaps often somewhat obscure by nature. The sixties and seventies (or even the fifties, etc.) don't seem to generally fare much better there no.

Hey, it is after all written by and for all, and for that reason never to be trusted on anything. Meanwhile, I thought I'd look up "hippie" at the Uncyclopedia: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hippie. I like their self-description these days, btw: "Uncyclopedia is hosted by the Uncyclomedia Foundation, a non-profitable organization that also hosts..."

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machadinha

nb I was just having a conversation again with someone who actually "did" the overland thing to India back then; I think we must never forget that most of such folks did not consider themselves hippies (or beatniks, or whatever).

They just went about their ways, doing whatever they felt they had to do; then when enough like-minded folks find themselves at a similar level in doing so, sooner or later you are discovered to be a "movement"; and so the designations arise only after the fact, and usually tagged on by outsiders (you'll realize both "hippie" and "punk" were originally terms of derision. It's small wonder though that the subjects may then start to wear the name with some sense of sarcastic pride.) (And then it becomes marketable, and in come the hangers-on and the posers, and... Hey, such is life. Mostly such movements remain for a long time as an impulse, or even just initially an image indeed, for whoever feels like picking it up and giving it their own twist though, nothing wrong with it as such.)

I remember my parents being similarly considered to be "hippies" or "flower children" by some; that was really absolutely not how they saw themselves. I guess it's just who they were, not what they intended to be.

Nick-H

To be honest, back then a lot of us were drug lovers who lived on rice and veg because we couldn't cook anything better.

Give or take the occasional stoned fantasy.

It was fun though