Black magic in India

svirgula

I've become sort of obsessed with this topic after reading about it in the Weirdest thread. I'm interested primarily in personal experiences, but if anyone could link me to some good reads on this site or elsewhere, I'd greatly appreciate it.

But above all, post whatever you know about this subject, and try to be as specific as possible.

brishti

oh well... clickity here... if you havent already.

books? sorry - cant help you there... i'm more the casper-the-friendly-ghost type


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svirgula

So, the people who've been talking about 'black magic' have just been referring to Indian tantric practices?

Nick-H

'magic' covers whatever the person you're talking to wants it to cover.

It can also cover whatever the person who is accusing you of something wants it to cover.

Like medieval Europe, people in rural India still use accusations of witchcraft to justify killing people.

svirgula

Very interesting.

PeakXV

An old beggar lady caste a spell on me @ Sunder Nagar one day. I wouldn't have known anything about it but a bystander overheard & took exception to her comments, then intervened with some stern 'words' of his own to her . After 'their' battle .... he told me all about her not-so-kind verbage. Never had any side effects from her casting - aside from this strange leaping habit & the odd uncontrollable croaking fit of the word 'Ribbit'.

<Checkout the Penn & Teller Video in India where they get the street magician to caste a spell on Penn - the DVD of their adventure might be of some use to you .....>

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Nick-H

Ahhh... the ribbit spell. Very nasty.

You don't have to go far to find someone who will ascribe any sort of less-than-perfect event to "the evil eye".

Frankly, whatever you are looking for in India, you will find someone willing to sell it to you. Go anywhere in the world seeking 'black magic' and you will quickly find yourself in the brown stuff. India has plenty of brown stuff.

brishti

and how it is you are ridding ribbiting? are you lipping still?
i ask - because you never know when i might need that antidote
please do not mind it i being inquisitive such-like.



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PeakXV

I'm told I have to (Ribbit-Ribbit ... pardon moi )kiss a Maharani on a full moon, under a banyan tree to rid myself totally ...... can somebody organize that for me please.

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edwardseco

I have been cursed a couple of times most deservingly by bus conductors . When young I had this great idea of travelling as Indian. Did the hair dye, skin dye, and clothes bit. Didn't fool a soul in the daytime. But, returning to Delhi one night I let my arm swing out the window. Delhi busses come very close to buildings and other vehicles. The conductor was fooled by the darkness and gave me a fearful chewing out that made the hairs curl in a sensitive part of the body. Distinctively uncomfortable so maybe magic works .

Back on topic, priests are employed in Maharashtra to determine where tube wells should be drilled. They have an excellent reputatation for being right on the money even among the government water geologists and are sometimes surreptitiously consulted by the staff. They place a chrysanthenum (shewanti) blossom on the head of an idol and watch which way it falls. I watched this several times before it struck me that the flower always fell in the direction of an existing well. The new well robs from an existing well. Its all extremely effective in a micro sense and devastatingly wasteful in the broader view. Given a limited amount of groundwater resources it pretty well describes the entire gamut of well drilling programs. I was left with a strange feeling that the priests were rational and that the government was simply composed of magicians..

Nick-H

Curses work because the mind of people is open to them working. I've heard so much crap about 'psychic attack' and the like, and I've always told people that it can be easily warded off by invoking the age-old mantra: "bugger off".

But it isn't mumbo-jumbo, doesn't appeal to either their egos or their sense of drama, so they don't listen.

Water diviners are known and respected in many places all over the world. They don't even begin to belong to the black-magic label --- unless they do it with dead chickens!

puchoo

This thread reminded me of the Milk Drinking Miracle which took Delhi by storm a few years ago..

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vmehra24

Tantra IS black magic. A lot of tantriks sacrifice small childern.

Haylo

That is indeed a very powerful charm!

(disappointingly, it is not in my Hindi phrasebook)