Tibetan Monk from NYC - con artist?

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I just returned from a 2 week trip to India. One of the highlights was my time in Dharamsala as it concided with a week of Dalai Lama teachings. My friend and I met a couple very sweet, friendly monks.

But then we were introduced to a monk from NYC by a couple of Canadian girls that had met him the prior day. While we were at the Temple, he exchanged email addresses and phone numbers with all of us. I regret having given him that information as he then seemed to be a bit shady. He talked about flying all over the world following the Dalai Lama - how can he afford to do this? Are there many Tibetan monks in NYC? Instead of hanging out with the rest of the monks, we kept seeing him walking around or sharing meals with western women traveling without men.

Should I worry that he is some sort of con artist and will use my name, phone number, and email address to pull some sort of identity theft? Has anyone else had a similar problem?

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I think you should look at this
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There are a lot of Tibetans in the US, and like people everywhere, some are good, some are bad.

Some Tibetans were born in the US, so why wouldn't they spend time with Western women?

I think you might be too paranoid about this; if he calls and proposes something that doesn't interest you, you can always say "no."
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as a friend said once, "I've never known a PERFECT pastor."
she was saying it not as a criticism, but the idea is "people should just get over the idea that the perfect pastor is out there, and that if they just find the perfect one, then their church will be all right."

monks are human beings. monks are men. few, if any, are enlightened. I know more than a few monks who could not live up to their vows and have disrobed.

did you give him your personal info before or after you saw him doing things that you feel aren't "right"?

you can't change what happened so stop worrying about it. as wonderwoman says, you're too paranoid about it. your worrying about it is just creating your own suffering.
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New York is possibly the most cosmopolitan city in the world. Nothing is impossible here, as it relates to ethnicity/nationality/culture. I used to go out with a Chinese Jew.

Yes, there are probably Tibetan monks living here. There are several Tibetan restaurants, a museum dedicated to Tibetan Buddhist art, and a thriving Buddhist culture comprised of both immigrants from Asia who were raised Buddhist and the newer crop of white western converts. There are multiple Buddhist temples of a variety of different sects.

Also, very few people are really "from" New York. And a lot more people who've spent varying amounts of time here. There are refugees from every war-torn country in the world, from Palestine to Haiti. If the guy claimed to be a Tibetan Buddhist and said "fuggheddaboudit!" all the time, mentioned craving "a slice", and was always getting online to check how the Knicks were doing, OK, then I'd wonder. But there's no reason "Tibetan monk who lives in New York" wouldn't be true.

Not to mention, of course, that sketchy boys exist in all races, religions, and nationalities -- if you're not interested in being picked up you shouldn't go around giving your number out to any old 'player' who comes along. Just because Tibet got invaded by China 50 years ago doesn't require you to do anything a Tibetan wants.

*crossposted -- you could just listen to all the rest of the similar and less wordy advice above!*
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oh, nick, that is priceless!

soccer, i doubt very much you have anything to worry about. it sounds, at worst, like this tibetan monk--if he is one--may enjoy the company of western women and associating with or getting to know westerners more than he is interested in stealing your identity. i had a "scrape" with a tibetan buddhist monk who rather aggressively showed that he was, shall we say, less than committed to his celibacy. hardly rendered him ripe for the chain gang.

even if there is, in fact, something "shady," it doesn't sound as if it rises to the level of nefariousness you fear. moreover, i doubt that the little bit of information you provided is enough for someone to steal your identity even if he wanted to.

and, yes, there are many tibetan buddhist monks living and teaching in new york.
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Article??

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There is only one photo [and two other small ones]

Where is the Article??

Or am I missing a great joke??
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Thanks for all the feedback. I am hoping I am just being paranoid. I got a really bad feeling about him, AFTER all of us women had given him the contact info. I saw him later and asked if I could see the piece of paper with our contact info, he said he left it at his friend's place and kept walking past me, without even asking me why I wanted it back.
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avid, the "joke" is in the pictures themselves...it's satire. hope it hits you and that you can share the laugh.
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I think it's more likely that this guy is going to rack up your cellphone bill by sending you international SMS's (SMS-es?) than that he is going to use this info to do some kind of voodoo on your bank account.

A name and phone number just isn't enough to 'steal your identity'. If it were, there would be an international black market in phonebooks.

Though I will admit I met a Nigerian in Colaba who really sketched me out -- I refused to give him more than my email address, and now I'm wondering if I'm about to get the hard sell on those famous 'please let me put a million dollars in your bank account' scams.

Just Say No -- it's for more than just drugs these days.
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Originally Posted by soccer9 View Post Thanks for all the feedback. I am hoping I am just being paranoid. I got a really bad feeling about him, AFTER all of us women had given him the contact info. I saw him later and asked if I could see the piece of paper with our contact info, he said he left it at his friend's place and kept walking past me, without even asking me why I wanted it back.
I'm glad you came back with another post; have to admit that I suspected a wind up and I hope you won't mind my joke too much.

And that is almost my very favouritest Onion joke.

I do think you're letting your imagination get away with you. It takes a lot more than the information you gave, which is all easily found out anyway, to steal somebody's identity. Furthermore, it helps to the same race if you want to pass yourself off as somebody else.

Suspect a begging letter, being asked for a job, a request to turn your garden shed into an ashram, all sorts of stuff that could have nuisance value --- but why identity theft?

In fact, you didn't even give him your address.

Expect some spam.
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Not to mention the same gender -- if I was an identity thief, I wouldn't waste time trying to get sensitive information from the opposite sex!
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Did not come across any such seemingly dangerous monks besides those young kid-monks in Leh. But I would say wear out any worries of identity thefts. ummm wait....what is 'identity theft' in this case? What exactly are/were scared of?

Anyways...you will probably end up dealing with some "Instant Karma capsules", "Life enlightening body gel" , "Buddha's Message in a DVD" kinda SPAMS. Nothing more than that.
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I know who that "monk" is. He dresses in monk’s clothes but to the best of my knowledge he has not been affiliated with any monastery for years. As far as I know he is just an ass but I will ask around and find out if he is up to any serious mischief. Unfortunately there is no law saying who can and cannot buy and wear monk’s robes. The locals disapprove of him very much.

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