Himachal Pradesh - Shimla, Dharamsala, McLeod Ganj, Manali, and other destinations in the region

Kalka - Narkanda/Thanedar - Chitkul/Rakcham - Kalpa - Kalka


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Old May 21st, 2007, 12:45   #46
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Costs

see if you plan to do the travelling by Road transport buses and then this route might not be tht costly. The private jeep will cost you almost 50 - 60 % of you travel budget.

One thing about himachal is tht u will find good guest/rest houses and cheap but good accomodation on all places. I was short on days, tht why i took Qualis, but if you have 10, 12 days in Himachal to spend i advice to travel by bus if you want to save some decent money.
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Old Jun 5th, 2007, 13:17   #47
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Dhari, thanks 4 all the tips. Have just returned after spending 15 unforgettable days on the Kinnaur - Spiti - Manali circuit..... Sangla valley was beautiful. Had sunshine throughout except at Chitkul. Kalpa was great and two days of fresh snow on Kinner Kailash did wonders. The foot-trail that starts from Rogi village was beautiful and is recommended. Kinnaur was great too, but there were unseasonal clouds. The tough part was after the descent from Kunzum into Lahaul - lot of fresh snow and vehicles losing traction on the snow, needing lots of pushing by good samaritans. The regular "road" is still covered with ice/snow in places, requiring detours and very rough road conditions, generally, from Kunzum to Gramphoo.
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Old Jun 5th, 2007, 13:21   #48
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The sum and substance of all the posts under this thread is that (i) one should have at least 10 days to really enjoy the trip to Sarhan-Sangla-Rakcham-Chitkul-Kalpa. Afterall it costs a lot for doing a second trip.(ii) The driver to be engaged should be the one who has experience in driving in these places. I have been to Shimla and surrounding places few years back and my hunch is that it is better to engage drivers from Shimla for hilly routes than from Kalka or Delhi.


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Yes, we took a Simla driver and he was just great. The Sangla - Spiti- Lahaul circuit requires a higher level of hill driving skills.
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Old Jun 6th, 2007, 10:26   #49
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hi, good to know you enjoyed your trip..where have you posted the pics from your trip.any links...
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Old Jun 6th, 2007, 15:19   #50
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hi, good to know you enjoyed your trip..where have you posted the pics from your trip.any links...
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Yes, will post in a few days as soon as I have recovered from my cold, thanks to Chandigarh and Delhi being 40 deg plus, after the cool hills......
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Old Jun 6th, 2007, 16:35   #51
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Hi Oceansky .. ya man .. there was no question that you wouldn't have enjoyed the trip .. the place in itself is so fulfiling .. great to hear tht there was fresh snow at Kinnar Kailash .. was it was at Chitkul too ? hummmm can understand the temperature would have taken you in ... hahahahaha .. it must be chilly there .. esp with the winds .. just cant go out in the night .. if you dont have proper clothes .. (like me) .. but i still remember the cloudless sky in Kalpa .. where i have seen millions stars ... the rainbow formation just behind us .. it was just great .. ..

yes we all are waiting for the details .. and i mean all the details so that it can help others ..

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Old Jul 15th, 2007, 15:39   #52
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Smile Pictures !

Hi guys. Have posted a few pix (at last!!) of my Kinnaur-Spiti trip in May-June. Cheers !
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Old Jul 20th, 2007, 03:40   #53
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I agree, van has lots more leg space also. But with 3 people in the back, seating can be a little tight. It can be tiring, specially as they plan to be on road almost 5-6 hours everyday.
Now with the National highway being so good right into Kinnaur, I could also venture to drive myself. But would still not attempt the Karcham - Sangla section - its scary enough sitting in the back driver side window seat ).
Whereas I agree that the Karchham-Kuppa stretch is easily one of the hairiest in India (maybe the world?) and have mentioned so in other threads, I can assure u from personal experience (Oct 06 - no prior experience, not even from photos) that it's not half as scary in the driver's seat. Reason: u tend to keep your eyes FIRMLY on the road! It only gets scary if u look to the right!

P.S. Bit off-topic, but just discovered recently that Girgaon to Kalamuni on the Munsyari road is no cake-drive either.
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Wow. less than an hour!! - including that 'always under repair' stretch near Matiana - wow!! I don't remember reaching Narkanda in under 2 hours, ever. I guess i always got some super slow drivers
And super-smart drivers. 2 hours is very sensible - 1.45 is good. Less than an hour? Not very smart, even if u're born in the hills. All it takes is one jerk coming from the opposite side too fast around a bend for u to be airborne. And without a parachute, it's arguable whether u'll be landing right side up wherever u land. Take my 3 paisa worth - go for the slow driver next time as well.
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Old Aug 14th, 2007, 19:14   #55
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Road from Poo to Kaza

Great to read this thread. I went from Shimla upto Nako on this route last year in August, and stayed at the HPTDC GH at Kalpa. We took an overnight state transport bus from Shimla to Rekong Peo, and I wouldnt advise anyone to do this - the driver stopped a few km from Shimla and bought himself a bottle of rum. Though I do not know if he consumed it enroute, it definitely added to the probabilities of us sliding down the Sutlej valley in our sleep.

The HPTDC at Kalpa was a bit too pricey, However the staff were pretty helpful and the service was worth it. It has good views too.

As someone mentioned in this thread, we were also told that there was a 'break' in the road from Peo to Kaza, so we hired a jeep and went upto Nako. The scenery, to say the least, was awesome. The jeep's entire windshield was broken apparently due to a rockfall the previous day on the same route...Views of Leo Purgyal and Spiti from Nako were additional bonuses...

Are there any treks in this region other than the kinnaur kailash circuit? Is there a trek route to Leo purgyal base camp?

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Are there any treks in this region other than the kinnaur kailash circuit?
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Aravind,
Kinnaur is trekkers' paradise. It has numerous trek routes. some of them are rather untouched.Some of the Sangla valley passes are more frequented. Trek route from bhabha valley to Spiti is also very beautiful. Upper Kinnaur has Ghunsarang Pass, Manirang pass treks to Spiti. Hangrang pass trek ends near Nako.
Check this thread for an extremely beautiful pioneering trek by Andreas.

Kinnaur - A pioneer trekking over Listigarang- and Kashang pass
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Old Aug 15th, 2007, 18:40   #57
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Thanks Uttam. The post by Andreas opens up whole new possibilities in the region. I also saw your Rupin pass snaps. They look amazing. I guess the snow is due to the time you went [ June, from the date in the snaps], or is it through out the year. In case you have already posted the details in another thread, do let me know.

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You are right, so much of snow on Rupin pass was because of the time. We did it in first week of June which is not advised. Even locals schedule their normal movement through this pass to july onwards. The pass is deep snow-bound till May and snow remains till June. However, for somewhat experienced trekkers it is doable in June but certainly with less greenery around.
Sorry, Aravind, writing is not my way doing treks. I have my limitations with words in expressing the incredible experiences in the hills. If interested in photographs, you can visit this link: http://uuttam.multiply.com/photos/al...machal_Pradesh
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experience of booking PWD/DFO/I&PH guest houses

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One more suggestion .. it is adviceable if u can book the Narkanda PWD guest house before .. it has good rooms at about 275 .. we were 2 couples and there was only one room in pwd guest house so the adjustment was made and the vip room was opened in the night for just little more price .. there is a circuit house in narkanda which is even better located .. but was closed for renovation .. i was not able to see thanedar .. if u go there .. please post on this thread .. wht are the accomodation facilities there ..
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what is your experience of booking rooms in PWD guest houses. over the internet I could find that they have guest houses at various locations (http://hpkinnaur.nic.in/hotel.htm) . Can I book them over telephone?
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experience with vishal himachal taxi union ?

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taxi booking from shimla to all the routes .. 09816025893 .. vishal himachal taxi union ..
what was your experience with vishal himachal taxi union ?

I called the number, and they quoted me a rate of approx Rs.2000/day inclusive of mileage + Rs. 150/- driver night halt charges for a 8 day trip ......... however the final rate would be fixed once I give them my detailed itinerary.
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