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#31 Sep 29th, 2005, 22:17
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The reason there is an amount limit of 3 or 6 months personal supply of prescription meds one can carry on flights has to do with drug smuggling. You can carry on for personal use, but not for resale. So customs says you can have a three or six months amount of meds as prescribed on the script. (I guess how much you can bribe counts too :P)

If you are taking an anxiety or sleep med for flights, Valium is the "old school" way to go. You might want to try Ambiem? Ambiem put you to sleep for 8 hours with little side effects. Ambiem is not a benzo, but it is addictive like them.

Like ALL Benzodiazepine, Valium included there is the high risk for addiction with continued use. Unlike stated above, there is a high risk of severe medical and mental withdrawal from benzodiazepines and people have died during withdrawal from them. So use with caution and limited consumption.
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The FDA in Goa has made it clear that it will not tolerate the sale of restricted drugs without a prescription.
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did anyone else hear about the american med students that went to india to perform minor ops for free at a local hospital. the hospital supplied all the drugs. a lot of the patients ended up dying from post op complications because the drugs were NOT what they said they were (either nothing in them or, worse still, something else in them). i have heard a few cases of this happening with the drugs in india and it is impossible to tell from looking at them.

just something to bear in mind before popping those pills! perhaps a better idea to get them before u go, for the sake of a few extra dollars?
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Originally Posted by amy just something to bear in mind before popping those pills! perhaps a better idea to get them before u go, for the sake of a few extra dollars?
Any half decent pharmacist in India will sell you authentic prescription medicines/drugs.
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Originally Posted by amy did anyone else hear about the american med students that went to india to perform minor ops for free at a local hospital. the hospital supplied all the drugs. a lot of the patients ended up dying from post op complications because the drugs were NOT what they said they were (either nothing in them or, worse still, something else in them). i have heard a few cases of this happening with the drugs in india and it is impossible to tell from looking at them.

just something to bear in mind before popping those pills! perhaps a better idea to get them before u go, for the sake of a few extra dollars?
it is very unfortunate but some times it happens very rarely , the Ampule labels may be changed mistakenly , and it can cause fatal effects.
the doctors may never have any idea what is happening ,while the patientis dying in front of their eyes.
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Be Careful !!!

India is a huge country comprising of Megacities to miniscule remote villages....so obviously Rules cannot be implemented with the same effecy everywhere !!! In cities, now a days its difficult to buy sleeping pills....but in an odd town or suburbes,you might get hold of some !!! But as already said "BE VERY CAREFUL" while buying. But the question is....why do you want sleeping pills !!!! I am not aware of your age, but that's not good if you are requiring them over and above your current prescription.
LEARN TO LIVE WITHOUT THEM.............
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Okay, a lot of the replies on this thread have been bs.

Yes, you can easily get it in any pharmacy ("medical shop"). Just ask for "10 Valium 5"... i.e. Valium 5mg. If they don't know what you're talking about, ask for diazepam, but in my experience, they know it by name.

Extremely cheap, and very effective! I get it every time I go, and it's absolutely amazing stuff. Pills in India come in blister-pack strips, usually in quantities of 10.

I'm not sure about Goa, but this works just about everywhere in India.

The first pharmacy you go to should give it to you, and if not, try 3-4 others (they're everywhere). Do this before you try to go to a doctor.

They'll give you everything but barbiturates (gardenal/phenobarbital, the only one available in India). You just have to know what you want. You can't go in, desperately asking for "sleeping pills" like the other person did; you have to know what you want and ask for it.

Also, the warning about Valium as a barbiturate is bs - Valium is a benzodiazepine... which does not mean it is completely risk-free! Benzos can somewhat impair learning, though this is mainly relevant if you're a med student trying to study for board exams or something Also, NEVER combine a benzo with alcohol: it can shut off your central pattern generator for breathing in your brain - you die by forgetting to breathe. That said, 5mg Valium is almost harmless and results in great sleep!
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Originally Posted by iridescent They'll give you everything but barbiturates (gardenal/phenobarbital, the only one available in India).
Some of the WORST times in my life is being in pain.
If this means feeling like crap with my ass exploding caused by god knows what,
im really going to appreciate some kind of effective pain relief.

So your saying some basic, effective, low-schedule pain-relief, such as hydrocodone, codine, although restricted under Indian law without a perscription, is readily availible to those in need, aslong as your cool about it?

What is the penalty for getting caught with these types of drugs,
such as Bezos and Low-dose-pain killers, without a script?


That said I have no intention to break the law,
or to abuse such things as listed above,
though sometimes it really can help a needy individal in pain with insomnia.

Oh and I agree with you buddy,
5mg valium is hardly anything for any ADULT to worry about,
and yes I mean even small adults
I would procede to follow the same precautions as listed on an allergy pill box, like benedryl.
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Valium for anxiety

Oh, oh, oh! You can use valium for anxiety? Because I have panic attacks every time I enter an airport, even if just to drop someone off, and am dreading all the flights I'll have to take to get to India (the plane doesn't bother me, but it takes about 2 hours to calm down, so I'm usually at another airport by then if domestic). If it actually helps, that would be wonderful! Does it leave you loopy like benadryl and stuff does? Can you function while taking it, or is it "take when you're ready to go to sleep?"

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Wazen
What is the penalty for getting caught with these types of drugs,
such as Bezos and Low-dose-pain killers, without a script?


That said I have no intention to break the law,
or to abuse such things as listed above,
though sometimes it really can help a needy individal in pain with insomnia.

The penalty for getting caught with non-scriped benzos and low dose opiates is the high risk for addiciton and compications for painful and anxiety racking withdrawal symptoms.

To be honest, you are skirting the laws of prescription meds by self prescribing, prescription medications. Also the fact is you ARE technically abusing "such things" when you take any prescription medication beyond or without a doctors OK.

proceed at very high risk... Benzos and opiates are nothing to toy with.
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Re: Valium for anxiety

jyoti - yes you can use if for anxiety, and i have used it for something similar. it works well, although does make u pretty groggy and u feel a bit spaced out. i used to have panic attacks and used it for that (takes about 15 min to kick in) and now keep it on me for 'emergencies' only. However, if you are having panic attacks, y arent u seeing a dr about it? valium will give u a quick fix but it wont solve it long term at all - take a look into cbt (cognitive behavioural therapy) and other things for phobias/panic attacks if you are interested (and havent already!) - it helped me heaps and now my anxiety is just about under wraps! drs in many countries are likely to give it to u with a script - i didnt have any troubles with it. might also be an idea as there are other benzodiazepines that are generally better for panic attacks than diazepan/valium.

also, for whoever said that valium is harmless, it isnt!! (as other ppl have pointed out also) and it amazes me how many people seem to be using it just to get to sleep. i definitely think it has its place but it is NOT RECOMMENDED FOR LONG TERM USE! long term use can lead to severe withdrawal, which can result in depression, paranoia, delirium and seizures, with withdrawal occuring in as many as 50% of users (taken straight out of my psychiatry book!). also, as well as alcohol, do not take antihistamines or any pain killers without checking first as they can have the same effect as taking alcohol with it (ie excessive sedation and respiratory depression - in other words, u can stop breathing). if its just to get to sleep, how about something like valerian (all natural) which will do the same thing but in a milder and safer way (just dont mix the two together!). i use that if i have trouble sleeping ad it generally works a dream. im sure there are a lot of people who have valid reasons for using valium on here and thats fine, just want people to be aware of it!
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Use to be a line outside the pharmasy on tranceparty nights. The drug was speed. I dont think Valium is good for you.
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Originally Posted by Wazen So your saying some basic, effective, low-schedule pain-relief, such as hydrocodone, codine, although restricted under Indian law without a perscription, is readily availible to those in need, aslong as your cool about it?
What is the penalty for getting caught with these types of drugs,
such as Bezos and Low-dose-pain killers, without a script?
yes, codeine will be available easily without a prescription. nobody is going to argue with you or 'fine' you according to any indian law as long as it's for legitimate purposes. "I'm in pain, I need it" is reasonable; "I can't sleep, I need this" is also perfectly reasonable. In fact, the tendency in India (although I as a med student somewhat disagree with it...) is to OVER-medicate, so if anything, they won't care. almost all drugs will be available in India w/o Rx, in my experience.

jyoti: yes, you can use it for anxiety. I'd consider 1/2 of a 5mg pill for that. Even better, Lorazepam for that purpose. Easily available in India as well.

some people have stated that benzodiazepines have withdrawal side effects. what psychoactive drugs don't?? this is an evolutionary feature of our brain chemistry rather than an 'effect' of drug use per se.

use valium for a few days, a week max... and try to space it out. you shouldn't be using it every day for a long period of time. just don't abuse it.

also, if you are 65+, benzos aren't a great idea.
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