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Old Jan 12th, 2008, 15:21   #16
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What exactly is professional advice? Professional advice is someone parroting what they were told is the right thing to say.
Utter rubbish, as is the rest of your post. You obviously have no earthly idea what "professional advice" means. I would say that your post is doing a tremendous disservice to the person who made the original inquiry, but it's so obviously ill-informed that I suspect it can't do any real harm to anyone with more than about two functioning brain cells.

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Here in the great USofA if a doctor tell you something that is not what he was told to say, they can be sued.
Laughable. But if he or she was told to say it by someone on "utube" (see below), that would be OK, I suppose?

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So in my opinion, you came to exactly the right place for advice- which is that vaccines are crap, are very dangerous, and are part of a corrupt medical system. I am quilified to say this because, i have researched the subject matter very thoughly. A short trip to utube should show you all you need to know to make an INFORMED choice. The truth about vaccines is now becoming very clear.
You may be "quilified", but you certainly aren't qualified, regardless of how "thoughly" you've supposedly researched the issue ... on "utube" or elsewhere. Anyway, the last time I checked the University of "Utube" [sic] wasn't offering medical degrees.

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They have dangerous side affects.
Not taking them can have very serious side effects. Like, oh ... paralysis, sterility ... death.
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Old Jan 12th, 2008, 18:40   #17
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Well said dzibead ....

everyone is entitled to their own opinion but amarama is talking a load of bullshit !!!!

I have worked in the pharmaceutical (vaccine's) industry for the past 10 years .... and in my opinion modern vaccines are safe. Yes some people can react to them (but then some people can't eat nuts, flour etc).

Prevention is better than cure !!!!

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Old Jan 12th, 2008, 22:51   #18
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Thanks to all you responders to that absurd & ignorant post....I was too cowardly to take it head on.

Nick & everyone who got the Salk vaccine years ago...time for a booster!! Seriously, don't wait! And yes, I also lived through polio epidemics--only ignorance could allow someone NOT to get this vaccine and other life saving ones.

OK, OK I've gotten ALL of them, including rabies....obviously, I'm not objective! No matter what side effects there are, they don't come close to the catastrophic illnesses they prevent for the majority of people who get them.

Has anyone here seen what the vaccine-preventing illnesses actually do to people? We mostly live in places where all these awful diseases have been mostly eradicated. Travel to some countries in Africa where any mother would do anything to get these vaccines for their children--they know the horrors that are now part of our history.
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Old Jan 12th, 2008, 23:00   #19
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We mostly live in places where all these awful diseases have been mostly eradicated.
Yes ... thanks to vaccines! We have all no doubt run into people (including some members here) who have said things like, "Well, I've never had any of these inoculations and I've never gotten polio, diphtheria, etc. etc." Yes, idiot, that's because you're surrounded by a buffer zone of people who have been inoculated and are therefore no longer disease vectors who present a danger to you!

And to paraphrase SteamBuff, prevention is a hell of a lot better than catastrophic illness or death!
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Old Jan 13th, 2008, 01:03   #20
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OK, to slightly change sides --- I think one of the Hep vaccines has potential very nasty side-effects, and should be taken by anyone who is not specifically at risk. Edwardseco?
I know Japanese Encephalitis vaccine is problematic in that it can cause temporary illness and is only about 60% effective. I don't have that even though the disease itself is not rare in Andhra and is truly evil in results. Wonderwoman's experience is a very sad reminder of past practices where mass vaccinations were done in India. I am certain she is right about the cause. Nobody involved in that considered sterilizing needles! Sadly, the cholera vaccine is of such minimal effectiveness its no longer recommended. I knew someone who refused and made a stink so they let him past the madness. Tragically this was repeated in the Indira Gandhi emergency with mass sterilizations (I read govt. documents while "living" in the archives). Rabies I never considered even though I was doing field research. I suppose its a balance of costs and benefits, both immediate and potential. Meningitis is expensive here so only the shona baba (boy)has it. That one is very good for college students as well. Nothing is without some side effects. I was amazed and appalled to learn about peanut allergies. Also, no vaccine to my knowledge is 100% effective including Typhoid. The different varieties of a disease can thwart the best medicine. I look at what is relatively easy to get with few side effects versus how common is the problem (Hep A in particular). Polio I assume everyone had as I grew up with victims struggling to make a life..
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http://www.vaccineinformation.org/polio/qandavax.asp

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Old Jan 13th, 2008, 11:14   #22
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Interesting reading on Hep A & B. A is inactive and B is only a part of the disease organism so they are considered very safe.

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Case reports of unusual illnesses following vaccines are most often related to other causes and not related to a vaccine. Whenever large number of vaccines are given, some adverse events will occur coincidentally after vaccination and be falsely attributed to the vaccine.
It should be noted that allergic reactions are possible so don't just get the shot at the travel clinic on the way to catch that flight. You can't get the disease from the vaccine. There was one recall of a vaccine batch for some reason..
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Old Jan 13th, 2008, 11:16   #23
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I need a refresher on A and I have none on B (my bad) despite the possibility of catching it from needles. Once done it may even last a lifetime..
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I think you'd have to be unlucky to meet up with a needle that wasn't disposable and straight out of it package these days.

Hmmmmm.....

(contemplates the horrible possibilities that stem from the Indian dislike of perceived waste )
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Old Jan 15th, 2008, 11:21   #25
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Didn't see any non-disposible myself lately..
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