Somewhat sick in Delhi - advice

machadinha · Dec 17th, 2006, 15:16

Yes Nick. So my one question remains: should this be stimulated on a board like this? Speaking to people who you don't know and haven't seen? By people calling themselves doctors even? Or anyone else?

I guess with GoanCanuck's advice to not bother with the web and go see a doctor this thread could have been limited to two rather short posts.

<coss-post> I've been wondering about that probiotics stuff Cyber but know too little about it to get into it. I think you're right though. Vistet had an interesting critical remark about it here http://www.indiamike.com/india/showt...1#post26 8691, I'm a little disappointed he never added his views on the other thread.

cyberhippie · Dec 17th, 2006, 15:22

As a lay person I wouldn't recommend medicines to people but if a doctor does, that's a different story. And advice from alopathic doctor holds at least as much weight as a natural medicines doctor.

It seems travel or prospective travel in India encourages a big leap in faith to natural medicine, you wouldn't believe the amount of people who let themselves get seriously sick because of this "faith"

Allowing and encourageing natural medicinal advice but refuting alopathic seems daft to me, none or both would seem fair!!

Nick-H · Dec 17th, 2006, 15:24

CH... there is information on that thread on general precautions, and treatment both alopathic and otherwise.

As to it's having been 'given' a thread --- well, as one the oldest IMers around, you know that threads are born not given. I made it sticky because it covers many often-asked questions and is full of good advice.

Rich Anpoor · Dec 17th, 2006, 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by GandhiGirl

There is the BRAT diet to help bind.
Bananas,
Rice,
Apples and
Toast
(this is often given to children as a treatment for NAUSEA, VOMITING AND/OR DIARRHEA
THE “BRAT DIET”)

I add an extra T (tea) for more fluids)

I wouldn't add the extra 'T' if I was you. Tea is a diuretic and you lose more water than you consume.

SANJAY_DEL · Dec 17th, 2006, 17:47

I'm not too happy about aspersions being cast on "people who call themselves doctors" on this site.
But for my definitive treatment advice regarding food or water borne diarrhea, here goes:
1. ORS - replacement of fluids and electrolytes : Electral is one brand.
2. Loperamide - Imodium to stop the dirrhea if severe.
3. Metoclopramide - Reglan or Perinorm for persistent vomiting.
4. Ofloxacin - Ornidazole combination, as in Zorno , to cure the infection, bacterial or protozoal.
Reassurance
Rest
Hospitalization and IV fluids if the patient does not respond.

drzog · Dec 17th, 2006, 18:38

Rich Anpoor: technically Tea (Carmellia sinensis) is actually an astringent, and very useful for the treatent of diarrhoea. It is the Caffiene that is the diuretic, hence small frequent sips of black, oolong or green tea are an excellent antidote for the runs. The tea polyphenols are also antiviral and antibacterial, as well as a plethora of properties that aid in the prevention of chronic western diseases.

Everyone be nice to Sanjay he is a very sensitive allopath

Rich Anpoor · Dec 17th, 2006, 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by drzog

Rich Anpoor: technically Tea (Carmellia sinensis) is actually an astringent, and very useful for the treatent of diarrhoea. It is the Caffiene that is the diuretic, hence small frequent sips of black, oolong or green tea are an excellent antidote for the runs. The tea polyphenols are also antiviral and antibacterial, as well as a plethora of properties that aid in the prevention of chronic western diseases.

Thanks for putting me right Doc. I will bear that in mind in the future. Shoulda known I didn't have it quite right! I seem to remember someone telling me the difference between a poison and a medicine is a matter of dosage, so that fits right in.

Am I right in saying you shouldn't rely on tea for liquids tho?

gautam · Dec 18th, 2006, 08:33

PEACE all docs.

Annie is recovering fast now ..shouldnt that be a good thing to talk about than Norfloxacin & Fasigyn

Lets wish for her speedy recovery docs & Non-docs

gautam · Dec 18th, 2006, 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by SANJAY_DEL

Sta...
Dr Sanjay Sharma, New Delhi

Where do u practice doc ? Your choice to let us know or not !

Cheers

Shark · Dec 18th, 2006, 10:51

Mach, here you go again. You take everything a tad too seriously sometimes. One minute you are suggesting that people go elsewhere to get professional advice and then you go ahead and give your expert advice anyway. Give us a break.

GoanCanuck · Dec 18th, 2006, 11:25

Nick, do the pharmacies in Chennai sell antibiotics without a prescription only if the customer is known to the store owner or do they sell to every stranger who walks in?

BabyBlue · Dec 18th, 2006, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by johngradycole

Hi everyone,

Well, this is the second time I've tried to start this thread - I hope it works this time!

Despite following all the advice so generously provided on IM recently, I'm sorry to tell you that Annie got sick yesterday. She was up much of the night with diarrhea and vomiting. (She actually went into the bathroom carrying a copy of War and Peace, which can't be a good sign.) This morning she is lying in bed while I'm up fretting. She seems a little hot to the touch, although she says she feels fine. She actually looks quite well.

I went down to the local chemists armed with my list of drugs gleaned from several threads on IM. The chemist told me he only carried two of them (norfloxacin, as recommended by the mighty Drzog, and Pudina Hara. He wouldn't sell them to me. We are armed with immodium and rehydration tablets and lots of preventative medicines that evidently didn't help too much.

Any advice from anyone? Should I stop worrying and go shopping? Should I get Annie to a doctor? (I'm pretty sure the answer is t keep her warm and relaxed and hydrated as far as possible for the next day or so and get her to a doctor if she doesn't get better in a few days. Still, it's one thing thinking it and another believing it when your loved one is sick so far from home...)

All help gratefully received! I hope I can help someone one day on IM, rather than constantly asking for advice.

Jason

Hi
I haven't had time to read all the answers to this so apologies if someone has said similar.
I was sick for 2 weeks - no vomiting but a mixture of diorrhea then constipation, then diorrhea, all accompanied by very painful cramps. I didn't what to take antibiotics for various reasons & try not to take too much medicine so I just let it work through my system. It didn't seem to be going away though until after 2 weeks I started drinking 2 lassis a day - all cleared up within 2 days, no joke. I assume it's the stuff in the curd that rebalances your gut. If she doesn't want to take medicine therefore, get her to have curd & lassis, it may well help her too...

Nick-H · Dec 18th, 2006, 13:32

Quote:

Nick, do the pharmacies in Chennai sell antibiotics without a prescription only if the customer is known to the store owner or do they sell to every stranger who walks in?

I think there is some difference in what they will sell to know customers, but I suspect they would be reticent about stuff like tranquilisers, sleeping pills, amphetamines, that kind of stuff.

I don't think they'd bother much about antibiotics. The bad news is that there seems to be little awareness of the dangers of unnecessary usage, over-prescribing and not taking a whole course.

Of course, with all these things --- it probably depends on who's looking!

BabyBlue... the lady concerned has seen a doctor and is on the mend. The thread has become a more general conversastion since that point!

BabyBlue · Dec 18th, 2006, 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

BabyBlue... the lady concerned has seen a doctor and is on the mend. The thread has become a more general conversastion since that point!

Oh OK. Didn't have time to read it all, just trying to help!

machadinha · Dec 18th, 2006, 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark

Mach, here you go again. You take everything a tad too seriously sometimes.

Oh golly, there goes me again being a tad too serious.

What I'd like to know is if the people taking the responsibility to offer their treatments would take the responsibility if it screws up as well. I guess carefully reading what is being asked in some worried person's first post would be a good first step.

Dec 17th, 2006, 15:16	#46
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 11,445	Yes Nick. So my one question remains: should this be stimulated on a board like this? Speaking to people who you don't know and haven't seen? By people calling themselves doctors even? Or anyone else? I guess with GoanCanuck's advice to not bother with the web and go see a doctor this thread could have been limited to two rather short posts. <coss-post> I've been wondering about that probiotics stuff Cyber but know too little about it to get into it. I think you're right though. Vistet had an interesting critical remark about it here http://www.indiamike.com/india/showt...1#post26 8691, I'm a little disappointed he never added his views on the other thread. __________________ Reading tips, all picked up at IndiaMike : INDAX's A Comprehensive Guide To India / Dinoj Surendran's Desi Humor / ITHVC on Culture Shock & Travel Health / JetLag Travel Guides For the Undiscerning Traveller / India Travel Links

Dec 17th, 2006, 15:24	#48
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 28,426	CH... there is information on that thread on general precautions, and treatment both alopathic and otherwise. As to it's having been 'given' a thread --- well, as one the oldest IMers around, you know that threads are born not given. I made it sticky because it covers many often-asked questions and is full of good advice. __________________ . Just one member of the IndiaMike Mod Team

Dec 17th, 2006, 18:38	#51
drzog Based On A True Story Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 105	Rich Anpoor: technically Tea (Carmellia sinensis) is actually an astringent, and very useful for the treatent of diarrhoea. It is the Caffiene that is the diuretic, hence small frequent sips of black, oolong or green tea are an excellent antidote for the runs. The tea polyphenols are also antiviral and antibacterial, as well as a plethora of properties that aid in the prevention of chronic western diseases. Everyone be nice to Sanjay he is a very sensitive allopath __________________ yours in health http://drzog.blogspot.com

Dec 18th, 2006, 08:33	#53
gautam Super Mode Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chandigarh - Blore NON-STOP Posts: 724	PEACE all docs. Annie is recovering fast now ..shouldnt that be a good thing to talk about than Norfloxacin & Fasigyn Lets wish for her speedy recovery docs & Non-docs __________________ "Your thoughts could be your prison" My pics on flickr Kerela backwaters - by beach

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Dec 17th, 2006, 15:22	#47
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,009	As a lay person I wouldn't recommend medicines to people but if a doctor does, that's a different story. And advice from alopathic doctor holds at least as much weight as a natural medicines doctor. It seems travel or prospective travel in India encourages a big leap in faith to natural medicine, you wouldn't believe the amount of people who let themselves get seriously sick because of this "faith" Allowing and encourageing natural medicinal advice but refuting alopathic seems daft to me, none or both would seem fair!!

Dec 17th, 2006, 17:47	#50
SANJAY_DEL Account Closed Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NEW DELHI, INDIA Posts: 1,351	I'm not too happy about aspersions being cast on "people who call themselves doctors" on this site. But for my definitive treatment advice regarding food or water borne diarrhea, here goes: 1. ORS - replacement of fluids and electrolytes : Electral is one brand. 2. Loperamide - Imodium to stop the dirrhea if severe. 3. Metoclopramide - Reglan or Perinorm for persistent vomiting. 4. Ofloxacin - Ornidazole combination, as in Zorno , to cure the infection, bacterial or protozoal. Reassurance Rest Hospitalization and IV fluids if the patient does not respond.

Dec 18th, 2006, 10:51	#55
Shark Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia, New South Wales Posts: 160	Mach, here you go again. You take everything a tad too seriously sometimes. One minute you are suggesting that people go elsewhere to get professional advice and then you go ahead and give your expert advice anyway. Give us a break.

Dec 18th, 2006, 11:25	#56
GoanCanuck Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,204	Nick, do the pharmacies in Chennai sell antibiotics without a prescription only if the customer is known to the store owner or do they sell to every stranger who walks in?

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