pharmaceutical companies experiments

kalbarri · Oct 30th, 2007, 11:49

is it true that the indian government is allowing international companies to use indian people as virtual lab rats, without the drugs having first been proven safe, on animal testing?

i saw a documentery about the experiments on poor people who have ultimate faith in their doctors, to only do good by them, where the patients didn't even know that they had been used as guinea pigs. one man with a mental problem, twice! he had been told that the other drugs he normally took were unavailable. the doco also pointed out that the hospital or doctor recieved money or gifts for their compliance. the mind boggles!!!!!
at the time of the making of the documentery, i think the drugs had first been tested on animals (or said to be) but i read later that the indian govt had taken out the animal testing prerequisite.

shashank.aggarwal · Oct 30th, 2007, 11:52

I saw a movie on this !! I don't recall the name, however it was based in Africa !!

kalbarri · Oct 30th, 2007, 11:55

the one i saw was based on india!

shashank.aggarwal · Oct 30th, 2007, 11:58

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Originally Posted by kalbarri

the one i saw was based on india!

I have not heard about it..but still I believe it is something very much possible..

capt_mahajan · Oct 30th, 2007, 12:05

And this is based in the USA
http://www.newstarget.com/019189.html

Its an epidemic

PeakXV · Oct 30th, 2007, 12:14

Yes and I've heard that the ones with really "bad reactions" are reintegrated back into Indian society starting in Agra as touts.

Sorry couldn't resist

- I hope that this is just a "crazy dog story" and simply not true.

Sama · Oct 30th, 2007, 12:31

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Originally Posted by shashank.aggarwal

I saw a movie on this !! I don't recall the name, however it was based in Africa !!

The Constant Gardener.

as capt. said, this has been done on Americans for years. It's nothing new.
The CIA tested LSD on soldiers.

ever hear about the Tuskegee Study?

capt_mahajan · Oct 30th, 2007, 13:27

Happens in a lot of other countries too, not just the ones mentioned, which was kind of my point..

shashank.aggarwal · Oct 30th, 2007, 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by YogaGal

The Constant Gardener.

Yes !! Its the one...

kalbarri · Oct 30th, 2007, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeakXV

Yes and I've heard that the ones with really "bad reactions" are reintegrated back into Indian society starting in Agra as touts.

Sorry couldn't resist

- I hope that this is just a "crazy dog story" and simply not true.

sad to see it dismissed so lightly by the members here. if you research it you might also see that it is predictad that this "outsourcing" of pharmaceutical experimentation to india is going to be huge business!

New-South-Welshman · Oct 30th, 2007, 15:44

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Originally Posted by PeakXV

Yes and I've heard that the ones with really "bad reactions" are reintegrated back into Indian society starting in Agra as touts.

Haha. Gold.

The Constant Gardener is a great movie. As far as I know, all human involvement being used as "lab rats" in the west, is voluntary, but I can't speak for the whole world. If you have a link to any videos/documentaries on this, I'd be interested.

kalbarri · Oct 30th, 2007, 15:52

about the poor dumb indians. lets just get pissed and piss ourselves laughing about them.....

machadinha · Oct 30th, 2007, 20:27

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Originally Posted by New-South-Welshman

As far as I know, all human involvement being used as "lab rats" in the west, is voluntary

I believe prison inmates are a favorite target in some places. Seeing ads here offering (quite decent) money to be a guinea pig raises one's eyebrows sometimes about the "voluntariness" of it all -- but I guess technically, yeh.

Sama · Oct 30th, 2007, 20:49

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Originally Posted by New-South-Welshman

As far as I know, all human involvement being used as "lab rats" in the west, is voluntary,

That is absolutely not correct at all. In the Tuskegee Study, those black men did not know their "medical treatment" was a syphilis experiment. And the soldiers did not know anything about the LSD was being administered to them.

For your information, the government has done germ warfare experiments on the populations of certain American cities for years.

So where do you get your information that ALL human involvement in the west is voluntary?

capt_mahajan · Oct 30th, 2007, 20:54

Excellent link

http://www.whale.to/b/exp45.html

You can add a few other countries based on this link alone... Canada and UK at least.

For many countries, including I suspect India, much information may be hidden.

Like I said, it is widespread.

Also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA
http://www.sunshine-project.org/publ.../pr270902.html

Oct 30th, 2007, 11:49	#1
kalbarri kalbarri Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: WESTERN australia Posts: 386	pharmaceutical companies experiments is it true that the indian government is allowing international companies to use indian people as virtual lab rats, without the drugs having first been proven safe, on animal testing? i saw a documentery about the experiments on poor people who have ultimate faith in their doctors, to only do good by them, where the patients didn't even know that they had been used as guinea pigs. one man with a mental problem, twice! he had been told that the other drugs he normally took were unavailable. the doco also pointed out that the hospital or doctor recieved money or gifts for their compliance. the mind boggles!!!!! at the time of the making of the documentery, i think the drugs had first been tested on animals (or said to be) but i read later that the indian govt had taken out the animal testing prerequisite.

Oct 30th, 2007, 11:52	#2
shashank.aggarwal Mr. Badboy :D Join Date: May 2007 Location: ~ Dilli ~ Posts: 5,731	I saw a movie on this !! I don't recall the name, however it was based in Africa !! __________________ Travelogue - Around India Random Reviews

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PeakXV Naan.tering Nabob Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Abode of Glooscap Posts: 4,333	Yes and I've heard that the ones with really "bad reactions" are reintegrated back into Indian society starting in Agra as touts. Sorry couldn't resist - I hope that this is just a "crazy dog story" and simply not true. __________________ We shall not cease from exploration and at the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started ...and know the place for the first time. T.S. Eliot Don't go to India ~ Pre-trip Warnings & Misconceptions?

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kalbarri kalbarri Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: WESTERN australia Posts: 386	yeah...who cares about the poor dumb indians. lets just get pissed and piss ourselves laughing about them.....

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Oct 30th, 2007, 11:55	#3
kalbarri kalbarri Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: WESTERN australia Posts: 386	the one i saw was based on india!

Oct 30th, 2007, 12:05	#5
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,509	And this is based in the USA http://www.newstarget.com/019189.html Its an epidemic

Oct 30th, 2007, 13:27	#8
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,509	Happens in a lot of other countries too, not just the ones mentioned, which was kind of my point..

Oct 30th, 2007, 20:54	#15
capt_mahajan (in charge of navel affairs) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,509	Excellent link http://www.whale.to/b/exp45.html You can add a few other countries based on this link alone... Canada and UK at least. For many countries, including I suspect India, much information may be hidden. Like I said, it is widespread. Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA http://www.sunshine-project.org/publ.../pr270902.html

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