Health and Well Being in India - Questions and Answers about Insurance, Safety, Immunizations and general well being.

Med/Dental+Kochi+Kerala???


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Sep 10th, 2006, 05:49   #16
Surprised and Delighted by Life
 
TimMakins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: On the road...
Posts: 968
Quote:
Originally Posted by JjInCt
Since I have recieved a PM message from a senior member claiming my post should be binned because its a sourse of amusement, I am a bit disturbed.
I just would like to say I am very serious about what Im asking in terms of medical and dental treatment.
I am flying into kochi (cochin)on Nov 30 and staying in fort cochin where it would be quiet for rest and recuperation. I have a oneway ticket because I want to make sure all medical has been taken care of. I do hope to return home by Easter. The absolute first thing I need is to seach for a professional, fairy qualified in dental implant surgey (oral surgen I am told). Within a week I will have picked the doctor I feel I can most relate too. Just like any other human, doctors can double talk you and make you think they are the best. When I get all different opions, listen to the professions and weed out the ones that don't come together with the other medical professional.
After I get the first stage of the implants and several weeks have gone by with no problems, I can now do my traveling farther out into India.
Since I have a one way ticket, I could probably have the second stage, (crown) done by another dentist up into the middle of India. Maybe GOA or Bombay. Then buy my ticket back to NYC. Theres so many ways I can go about it.
I also know about checking the embassy but their is not one in Kerala. I will check with the India Dental Association
That must be the tooth fairy, I guess...

Tim in England
__________________
Travelling Tim - http://www.mapability.com/blogs/
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."

Mark Twain
TimMakins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 10th, 2006, 12:15   #17
Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird
 
Nick-H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Chennai, India
Posts: 28,426
Well spotted, Tim

Quote:
Originally Posted by sensi
And it will be like anything else in India, a wild experience for a tourist.
The OP may or may not have been to India, but this comment makes me wonder if you have ever been to an Indian dentist? I can only recommend that you try my Indian dentist --- a better experience in almost every way than most London dentists I experienced in 30 years (Lorelei; this excludes you... I'll never find another dentist who can give injections without me even knowing it, I'm sure ) (She's in Plaistow, if anyone wants to know).

Certainly nothing "wild" about it....

As to accountability... well, I suppose that is something that one might research seriously. But, as most of the major work I've had done here resulted from failed British NHS dentistry (confirmed by a UK specialist) I'll take my chance here just as I did there...
__________________
.


Just one member of the IndiaMike Mod Team
Nick-H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 10th, 2006, 20:26   #18
Senior Member
 
Sensi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: in a bungalow
Posts: 120
your right nick i havn't been to an Indian dentist. my point being that it just isn't an appealing idea giving what i know about indians tendancy to screw up... not to mention my general dislike of going to the dentist, i would rather do it at home. that's just my opinion.
But go for it. indian dentists sure have lots of experience, and will probably by good.
Like is said, though, there is not accountablity in India, especially not to a foreigner. If the dentist cuts his finger and you catch hep B, for example, there will be no legal compensation. Same for any number of problems. Ot more simply if he just doesn't do a good job or even up to western standards. Reality is that western education system is far more advance. The US and britian probably have the best doctors and equipment in the world (you get what you pay for). just something to consider.
Sensi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 10th, 2006, 21:08   #19
Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird
 
Nick-H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Chennai, India
Posts: 28,426
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sensi
your right nick i havn't been to an Indian dentist.
Oh, Good... I thought I was being unecessarilly rude for a minute

Quote:
my point being that it just isn't an appealing idea giving what i know about indians tendancy to screw up... not to mention my general dislike of going to the dentist, i would rather do it at home. that's just my opinion.
Of course, you're entitled to your opinion, but it really seems based more on prejudice than reality. I don't have any clue about USA, but so many UK dental and medical staff are ...Indian. The London practice I praised above (although the lady I was treated by there is Philippino) is owned by an Indian brother and sister.
Quote:
But go for it. indian dentists sure have lots of experience, and will probably by good.
They have, I expect, the same amount of experience as dentists anywhere! Why should it be any different? None (or neither) of us here are talking about yank-it-out thatched-hut dentistry. My [Chennai] dentist takes far longer on a root canal therapy than I experienced in London ---through care, not lack of experience.
Quote:
Like is said, though, there is not accountablity in India, especially not to a foreigner.
You just try getting compensation out of the British National Health Service --- OK, it does happen, but since things became more public-sector-oriented, and insurance companies getting involved, it would not be easy and might well take months or years. So, in theory the accountability may be there, but in practice...
Quote:
If the dentist cuts his finger and you catch hep B, for example, there will be no legal compensation. Same for any number of problems.
Same applies. I do not think you will find any substatial differences between my dentist's sterilisation and glove-wearing procedures and those in UK or USA.
Quote:
Or more simply if he just doesn't do a good job or even up to western standards.
See above!
Quote:
Reality is that western education system is far more advance.
Reality is that many of our UK doctors and dentists were trained in India! Actually, my dentist's current assistant (he works assisted by a young qualified dentist, not only a dental nurse) was trained at Barts in London, and you will find that many dentists, here, particular those who do specialised procedures like implants, will have studied those procedures in Europe or USA.
Quote:
The US and britian probably have the best doctors and equipment in the world (you get what you pay for).
Again, many of them trained in India. My family doctor here works regularly (or did, until they changed the visa rules recently) for the UK National Health Service
Quote:
just something to consider.
Nobody's forcing you to bring your teeth to India for treatment but I do think you ought to consider some more before you set out putting people off the idea...
Nick-H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 10th, 2006, 23:08   #20
Account Closed
 
JjInCt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Shelton, Connecticut, USA
Posts: 35
Send a message via MSN to JjInCt
I have delt with many Indian nationals (medical) at the Vetrans Administration just down the street from Yale university where they are educated. I have observed the India and Pakistan doctors to be more meticulas, if not just as good but even better in their profession. This has been for the last 20 years, I have not dout, after carefull consideration that I will find the right doctor in India.
JjInCt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11th, 2006, 00:16   #21
Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird
 
Nick-H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Chennai, India
Posts: 28,426
You have a choice to make: I have no doubt that the odds are on your side that the result will be a good one!
Nick-H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11th, 2006, 00:23   #22
Dis member
 
capt_mahajan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: India
Posts: 10,875
you go to a good doctor, you get good treatment.

anywhere in the world.
capt_mahajan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11th, 2006, 00:27   #23
Surprised and Delighted by Life
 
TimMakins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: On the road...
Posts: 968
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sensi
your right nick i havn't been to an Indian dentist. my point being that it just isn't an appealing idea giving what i know about indians tendancy to screw up... not to mention my general dislike of going to the dentist, i would rather do it at home. that's just my opinion.
But go for it. indian dentists sure have lots of experience, and will probably by good.
Like is said, though, there is not accountablity in India, especially not to a foreigner. If the dentist cuts his finger and you catch hep B, for example, there will be no legal compensation. Same for any number of problems. Ot more simply if he just doesn't do a good job or even up to western standards. Reality is that western education system is far more advance. The US and britian probably have the best doctors and equipment in the world (you get what you pay for). just something to consider.
I am flabbergasted at such stereotyping and a lack of knowledge about this subject !! What on earth makes you think you are qualified to give such an opinion??

It may surprise you to know that the first time I went to a dentist in India, (New Delhi, on a recommendation from the British Embassy) his waiting room had shagpile carpet 2 inches thick on the floor. On the table were that week's copies of Vogue, Tatler, etc. Most of his clients were diplomats, business men, that kind of thing. His service was exceptional. Nothing was too much trouble. He would give me one hour appointments!!! - this at a time when you were lucky to get 15 minutes in UK or Ireland. He once spent half an hour just checking that the color of the bridge matched my teeth correctly, and insisted that we went to the window to use daylight, not room light.

Everything was perfectly clean and tidy. Nurses were available for every procedure. When doing a root-canal he went to extraordinary efforts to make sure it was done properly, and refused to fit a crown too early in case it needed some more work. And the prices I paid were a fraction of what I would pay in Europe.

One final thing: in chatting to him, I found that he had spent 30 years working in a practice in London. He had given that up to retire back to Delhi, and was working here to keep himself in 'practice'. Hepatitis 'B' ?? The only injury I was likely to sustain there was to cut my finger on the crisp pages of 'Horse and Hound' magazine !!

Tim in England
TimMakins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11th, 2006, 00:56   #24
Senior Member
 
Sensi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: in a bungalow
Posts: 120
have you guys been to this doctor?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../wbegleg02.xml
Sensi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11th, 2006, 02:34   #25
Account Closed by User's Request
 
cyberhippie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: the Netherlands
Posts: 6,009
Are Goan Dentists cutting corners??
cyberhippie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11th, 2006, 02:34   #26
Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird
 
Nick-H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Chennai, India
Posts: 28,426
Sensi, we've done that one... had a whole thread on it.
Nick-H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11th, 2006, 02:38   #27
Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird
 
Nick-H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Chennai, India
Posts: 28,426
Cyberhippie ... it occurs to me that it would be wiser to choose a dentist that treats the local well-off. They have to live with their clients.

I'd be worried by anyone specialising in treating tourists
Nick-H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11th, 2006, 02:45   #28
Account Closed by User's Request
 
cyberhippie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: the Netherlands
Posts: 6,009
Makes no difference Nick I know a dentist or two with good local reps and they've made some pretty basic mistakes when push comes to shove!!

I'm not saying ALL Indian/Goan dentists are bad but I'm also not saying that what Sensi relates has no foundation in reality either. Lacking an enforced regime in hygene some will cut corners, that's just human nature!!

I would deem it best to research your prospective dentist well!
As you and Tim have suggested but see no harm in pointing out that as with many things in India don't expect top service from every dentist, even if he does treat well off customers that doesn't mean he won't cut corners with you as you pass through!!!

That said I would gladly use a dentist in India, the medical service I've had from doctors has been pretty good! Usually better in terms of time and attention to detail than I'm used to in The Netherlands, my GP here in Holland is following in his father footsteps by being a total loss as a doctor!!
cyberhippie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11th, 2006, 02:50   #29
Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird
 
Nick-H's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Chennai, India
Posts: 28,426
That's true.

I think you can make as big a mistake in London or anywhere.
Nick-H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11th, 2006, 02:55   #30
Account Closed
 
JjInCt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Shelton, Connecticut, USA
Posts: 35
Send a message via MSN to JjInCt
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sensi
============================== ============================== =======

Humm,,I will make sure he does not put me under with the gas, I want to watch and make sure everything is connected when the sugery is done!!! LOL
JjInCt is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dental jan Goa 1 Oct 26th, 2005 04:29
From Kochi to Fort Kochi... diplomacy Kerala 1 Oct 10th, 2005 13:34
dentist, dental clinic in diu freemanx Gujarat 2 Apr 2nd, 2004 00:44



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
indiamike.com ©2001-2008

Syndicate this content on your website with rss or javascript data feeds.