I found head lice nits on my childrens hair

Maz 1979 · Dec 9th, 2007, 23:14

Sandy - if you have real issues finding such a thing i can always post one out to you from London. I sympathise because i had lice in Primary school but then nothing for nearly 20 years then my partners daughter brought them into the house and i spent 2 months trying to get rid of them (turns out when i had them she didn't and when i didn't she did so we were re-infecting each other.) They are a nasty pain in the head

so please PM me and i will get one posted out - oh and ultimately the chemicals didn't work but the thick conditioner did

Aishah · Dec 9th, 2007, 23:26

Just reading this thread now - sandy don't worry too much. Just do the Mediker and the fine tooth comb and they will go. I had them 2 years ago,picked up the last time I travelled in a tightly packed bus. Mediker washing daily for about three days or so, plus the comb, did the trick. As Kristin says, don't worry too much re sheets and pillowcases etc. I did nothing in this regard and mine went.
The getting-rid -of-them routine is a bit of a pain in the neck but you can do it. And yes, I thoroughly agree with edwardesco and brownboy - make time to relax and enjoy moments away from the stresses and tensions. These family fun together times are definite boosts to immune systems.

Nick-H · Dec 9th, 2007, 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by the opoponax

I'm sorry, racial stereotyping say wha????

Not you. The Capt and I, seeing your city as through the eyes of a 1950s movie. And just a little bit of letting off steam from me over something else entirely. Not you at all.

capt_mahajan · Dec 9th, 2007, 23:44

Hey, I like John Wayne.

Nick-H · Dec 9th, 2007, 23:47

You didn't have to watch one of his films with the family every Sunday afternoon!

Put me off Westerns for life --- except High Noon and the Spaghetti Westerns.

the opoponax · Dec 10th, 2007, 00:08

Yep, a western-hater myself, here. Though I did like The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

I just spent the last 20 minutes doing the breakfast dishes and running a mental ethnic inventory of each stop on my errand list, wondering who on earth "get out of Dodge" would be an offensive reference to! Brazilian hairstylist I can't get an appointment with till the end of next week? No... Russian hardware store guy? No... Yemeni corner shop dude? I don't think so...?

lotus blossom · Dec 10th, 2007, 00:26

i've not read through all the posts, so may repeat something, but wanted to add my own personal experience.

my daughter had several bouts of head lice, most of it when she was six. everytime she'd come home from visiting her friend, she'd have lice in her waist length hair. so we'd get to the routine of removal, which consisted of applying a mixture of essential oil and a carrier oil of some sort, maybe olive or some other vegetable oil. It's been a long time now, but i recall using lavender and eucalyptus, and maybe tea tree oil. All of her hair got saturated and then i'd comb it through with the nit comb, removing all of the visible critters. It was a long process, because you also have to pull the eggs off of the hair shaft. that takes a long time, but must be done, or else you just end up with a whole new batch of lice. after that we put a plastic bag on her head overnight, to kill the rest. It would take care of the problem but then we'd have to repeat the whole process all over again everytime she went to visit her friend. Her friends mom was using the chemical shampoos, which were not taking care of the problem.

My daughter got lice again when she was 13. Remembering the long process that it required to deal with the problem she went to her friends and shaved her head! (i think it was also an assertion of her teenage power) That's the other way to take care of the problem.

The problem with using chemical solutions is that they have a weakening effect on the immune system. The eliminative organs have to deal with the toxicity of them, namely the liver. it can be tempting to use the fastest means possible, but the long term effects may be hazardous.

i agree that to strengthen the immunity lessen sugars and refined foods of all kinds. use fresh fruits in place of sweets, and use probiotics to inoculate your guts with healthy, beneficial bacteria. curd does this pretty well if it comes from a healthy source.

i understand your feelings - my last trip in india of six months was not an easy one. i suffered from a low grade intestinal problem nearly the whole time. i was moving about, so could not cook for myself, but craved home cooked food.

best wishes with your family's wellness. it can be a challenge wherever in the world we are, but becomes daunting when we are not at home.

brownboy66 · Dec 10th, 2007, 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

But I'm going to be singing, "Oh, don't forsake me oh my darling....".

so that's why the dogs in your neighbourhood bark so much....

Nick-H · Dec 10th, 2007, 01:15

Could be!

They are certainly barking at the moment, every night up till about 2.00am

brownboy66 · Dec 10th, 2007, 01:18

clearly they aren't country and western fans! (deadly quiet outside here - you could hear a sparrow f.....!)

Nick-H · Dec 10th, 2007, 01:48

One big Woof just as I read that!!!

It'll go on for a couple of hours now. Ah, yes, the howling has started too. Sounds, actually, like a dog attempting to render the High Noon theme!

I don't mind the street dogs; its the house dogs barking that annoy me, because a human is responsible for that.

sandytsang · Dec 11th, 2007, 00:23

hello guys, thanks for all the help.

Maz 1979, thank you, but don't need to post the shampoo from London, I did found the Mediker shampoo from a store, it seems can kill the head lice. And I put coconut oil on our hair first, can use nits comb take those nits out. We are going back to Finland for Xmas, I will buy more head lice shampoo from there. Maybe after the hot finnish sauna, the lice or nits will die too, I hope.

I have been really busy since I found those head lice. Everyday wash 5 heads (My three children, my husband and myself), and wash all the bed wears. Seems don't have so many nits anymore, and I didn't find any head lice at all.

I do want to take a break, go somewhere, but that is not going to happen. We have 3 little children, 5 and half year old girl, 4 year old boy, 1 and half year old boy. Which means I can not go out by myself with them, neither my husband. and we can't leave them with our maid for many days even just many hours. We can only manage go out for lunch or dinner in the weekend without kids for few hours. The only place I want to go is my home town China, I haven't go home for more than 2 years now. But I can't travel with kids by myself, and I can't leave any of our kids to my husband, because he needs go to work.

My husbands work timetable is driving me crazy, one week evening shift, one week morning shift, one week regular shift, and the company has never mention about shift work in the contract when we signed it. This is so shit...

My sons are better now, no fever, less cough, but my daughter start to cough yesterday, so does my husband. My maid is also sick, flue may be. Again I am fine.

I order today Bisleri water, they said they will send the water after 1 hour, but they show up after 45 minutes. What a surprise in India, people show up early. I hope this water can "make" us better.

When my kids are sick, or something happen like this head lice, I really feel I hate this place, and want to leave. But I also know that I will miss this place if someday we leave. I am very confused now. In fact, I was very boring when I was living in Finland, just few chinese friends, and never go out anywhere with my husband without kids, I mean really never, because no one can take care of them and let us go out. But I have fun in here, meeting many people, go out with my own friends sometimes, ladies lunch, coffee, shopping, go out with my husband without kids. I like chennai a lot before my family getting sick. Now I am really angry about this place and everything.

Maybe I will try the Spa....I have never try it before.....

Maybe things will goes better after the holidays.....or worse......

brownboy66 · Dec 11th, 2007, 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandytsang

I do want to take a break, go somewhere, but that is not going to happen. We have 3 little children, 5 and half year old girl, 4 year old boy, 1 and half year old boy.....

The only place I want to go is my home town China, I haven't go home for more than 2 years now. But I can't travel with kids by myself, and I can't leave any of our kids to my husband, because he needs go to work.....

My husbands work timetable is driving me crazy, one week evening shift, one week morning shift, one week regular shift, and the company has never mention about shift work in the contract when we signed it. This is so shit...

When my kids are sick, or something happen like this head lice, I really feel I hate this place, and want to leave. .....

In fact, I was very boring when I was living in Finland, just few chinese friends, and never go out anywhere with my husband without kids, I mean really never, because no one can take care of them and let us go out. But I have fun in here, meeting many people, go out with my own friends sometimes, ladies lunch, coffee, shopping, go out with my husband without kids. I like chennai a lot before my family getting sick. Now I am really angry about this place and everything.

Hi Sandy

wow....looking at your post its pretty clear that more than anything you, and possibly your husband need a break desperately. My wife and I have 3 kids also (although they are older than yours - 11,8, and 4 now) - but yes, I can remember on many occasions having all of them at home, plus my wife, all sick in bed with various illnesses. Unlike you, however, we weren't in a strange land far removed from family.

That's the hardest part - dealing with all the stuff that gets thrown at you on a daily basis when you family and home is far away. That was also the case for us for our first two children. In your case its all the more difficult because your in a new country as well.

thankfully Xmas is just around the corner - so if you are going back to finland and there are family there it may give you and your husband a bit of a break.

Can I make a suggestion? Once you get back there might be a few things you can do to improve the situation.

a) is it possible to get more help with the kids? Not sure if your family income will permit it - but if it can its money well spent. If the income is available then this is precisely the time to get the help you need.
b) I think I mentioned in my last post about scheduling in regular breaks. Its more than just a happy thought - its actually kind of essential for you physical as well as emotional health. While the youngest is so little it might be hard, but persist if you can. When our youngest was one - our other two were 4 and 5 respectively. Thankfully by the age of one he was sleeping through the night. We religiously stuck to our schedule of a "no kids" break every six months (usually just a couple of days). Of course - we missed them terribly after one day but its amazing how much you can recharge after just 2 days.

We still do it now - the kids ask if they can come and are firmly told no!

c)I guess there is nothing you can do about being so far from family. From a practical point of view it means there is no one close by that you can trust - and it also means that you don't have that extended family network to tap into for support. The next best thing might be other families with small children - as no one will understand better how hard it is then another set of parents!

Are there any chances of being able to mix with other families in Chennai? Maybe some sort of play group? I imagine that if you were mixing with other parents, they would immediately recognise the situation your in and may be able to help?

We've just told good friends of our here that they need to drop their children off at our place one weekend and bug**r off somewhere as they desperately need a break. A couple of extra kids in our house wont make much difference.

anyway - apologies if this is all stating the obvious. Just remember - xmas really is just around the corner.

kristinm · Dec 12th, 2007, 05:22

Poor Sandy - I just want to hug you .... I know it means nothing now, but in a few years when they are off on their own here there and everywhere and don't seem to need you you will remember those days of having them underfoot fondly. Until then - You feel like a rat in a cage sometimes!!!! Don't feel guilty, we've all been there!

All I can do is echo brownboy - try and find a nanny or carer or sitter - someone they love and who loves them who you feel safe leaving them with for a night.... ask around everyone you know. Join playgroups, join mother's groups, join anything you can... Pretty soon the older ones will start doing sleepovers - make sure you welcome their friends over so you have lots of favours to call in...

It must be so hard coming from China where everyone pitches in to look after the kids - to a European country where you're left much more on your own and people don't 'interfere'.

Its just my impression - I have been to neither place yet, but I would guess there would be more similarities in respect of children/family/sharing kids around between China and India than between China and Finland? Perhaps, once these health issues are over, you will tap into that more and begin to build your own extended 'family' in India... and I'm sure now the monsoon season is over those illnesses will begin to be less frequent... at least your immunity will be tip top after having everything at once!

Dec 9th, 2007, 23:14	#46
Maz 1979 Monkey Bait Join Date: May 2004 Location: London Posts: 151	Metal Nit Comb Sandy - if you have real issues finding such a thing i can always post one out to you from London. I sympathise because i had lice in Primary school but then nothing for nearly 20 years then my partners daughter brought them into the house and i spent 2 months trying to get rid of them (turns out when i had them she didn't and when i didn't she did so we were re-infecting each other.) They are a nasty pain in the head so please PM me and i will get one posted out - oh and ultimately the chemicals didn't work but the thick conditioner did __________________ India

Dec 9th, 2007, 23:26	#47
Aishah She-who-must-be-obeyed! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jaisalmer Posts: 5,699	Just reading this thread now - sandy don't worry too much. Just do the Mediker and the fine tooth comb and they will go. I had them 2 years ago,picked up the last time I travelled in a tightly packed bus. Mediker washing daily for about three days or so, plus the comb, did the trick. As Kristin says, don't worry too much re sheets and pillowcases etc. I did nothing in this regard and mine went. The getting-rid -of-them routine is a bit of a pain in the neck but you can do it. And yes, I thoroughly agree with edwardesco and brownboy - make time to relax and enjoy moments away from the stresses and tensions. These family fun together times are definite boosts to immune systems. __________________ "Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards."

Dec 10th, 2007, 00:26	#52
lotus blossom re-member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: revolving around the sun standing still Posts: 1,893	i've not read through all the posts, so may repeat something, but wanted to add my own personal experience. my daughter had several bouts of head lice, most of it when she was six. everytime she'd come home from visiting her friend, she'd have lice in her waist length hair. so we'd get to the routine of removal, which consisted of applying a mixture of essential oil and a carrier oil of some sort, maybe olive or some other vegetable oil. It's been a long time now, but i recall using lavender and eucalyptus, and maybe tea tree oil. All of her hair got saturated and then i'd comb it through with the nit comb, removing all of the visible critters. It was a long process, because you also have to pull the eggs off of the hair shaft. that takes a long time, but must be done, or else you just end up with a whole new batch of lice. after that we put a plastic bag on her head overnight, to kill the rest. It would take care of the problem but then we'd have to repeat the whole process all over again everytime she went to visit her friend. Her friends mom was using the chemical shampoos, which were not taking care of the problem. My daughter got lice again when she was 13. Remembering the long process that it required to deal with the problem she went to her friends and shaved her head! (i think it was also an assertion of her teenage power) That's the other way to take care of the problem. The problem with using chemical solutions is that they have a weakening effect on the immune system. The eliminative organs have to deal with the toxicity of them, namely the liver. it can be tempting to use the fastest means possible, but the long term effects may be hazardous. i agree that to strengthen the immunity lessen sugars and refined foods of all kinds. use fresh fruits in place of sweets, and use probiotics to inoculate your guts with healthy, beneficial bacteria. curd does this pretty well if it comes from a healthy source. i understand your feelings - my last trip in india of six months was not an easy one. i suffered from a low grade intestinal problem nearly the whole time. i was moving about, so could not cook for myself, but craved home cooked food. best wishes with your family's wellness. it can be a challenge wherever in the world we are, but becomes daunting when we are not at home. __________________ Not all who wander are lost

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
postage of childrens clothes	ssharonuk	Mumbai (Bombay)	7	Nov 29th, 2006 17:54
childrens day celebrations	sadhuji	India Travel News and Commentary	2	Nov 15th, 2005 18:09
Hair Care Question: Hair Iron	Gini	Mumbai (Bombay)	1	Jun 5th, 2005 00:22
head lice from bedding?	jennifericous	Health and Well Being in India	25	May 25th, 2005 21:54

Dec 9th, 2007, 23:44	#49
capt_mahajan Dis member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Posts: 10,875	Hey, I like John Wayne.

Dec 9th, 2007, 23:47	#50
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 28,426	You didn't have to watch one of his films with the family every Sunday afternoon! Put me off Westerns for life --- except High Noon and the Spaghetti Westerns.

Dec 10th, 2007, 00:08	#51
the opoponax Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brooklyn, via New Orleans Posts: 1,052	Yep, a western-hater myself, here. Though I did like The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. I just spent the last 20 minutes doing the breakfast dishes and running a mental ethnic inventory of each stop on my errand list, wondering who on earth "get out of Dodge" would be an offensive reference to! Brazilian hairstylist I can't get an appointment with till the end of next week? No... Russian hardware store guy? No... Yemeni corner shop dude? I don't think so...?

Dec 10th, 2007, 01:15	#54
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 28,426	Could be! They are certainly barking at the moment, every night up till about 2.00am

Dec 10th, 2007, 01:18	#55
brownboy66 Chicken 65 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,338	clearly they aren't country and western fans! (deadly quiet outside here - you could hear a sparrow f.....!)

Dec 10th, 2007, 01:48	#56
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 28,426	One big Woof just as I read that!!! It'll go on for a couple of hours now. Ah, yes, the howling has started too. Sounds, actually, like a dog attempting to render the High Noon theme! I don't mind the street dogs; its the house dogs barking that annoy me, because a human is responsible for that.

Dec 11th, 2007, 00:23	#57
sandytsang Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 42	hello guys, thanks for all the help. Maz 1979, thank you, but don't need to post the shampoo from London, I did found the Mediker shampoo from a store, it seems can kill the head lice. And I put coconut oil on our hair first, can use nits comb take those nits out. We are going back to Finland for Xmas, I will buy more head lice shampoo from there. Maybe after the hot finnish sauna, the lice or nits will die too, I hope. I have been really busy since I found those head lice. Everyday wash 5 heads (My three children, my husband and myself), and wash all the bed wears. Seems don't have so many nits anymore, and I didn't find any head lice at all. I do want to take a break, go somewhere, but that is not going to happen. We have 3 little children, 5 and half year old girl, 4 year old boy, 1 and half year old boy. Which means I can not go out by myself with them, neither my husband. and we can't leave them with our maid for many days even just many hours. We can only manage go out for lunch or dinner in the weekend without kids for few hours. The only place I want to go is my home town China, I haven't go home for more than 2 years now. But I can't travel with kids by myself, and I can't leave any of our kids to my husband, because he needs go to work. My husbands work timetable is driving me crazy, one week evening shift, one week morning shift, one week regular shift, and the company has never mention about shift work in the contract when we signed it. This is so shit... My sons are better now, no fever, less cough, but my daughter start to cough yesterday, so does my husband. My maid is also sick, flue may be. Again I am fine. I order today Bisleri water, they said they will send the water after 1 hour, but they show up after 45 minutes. What a surprise in India, people show up early. I hope this water can "make" us better. When my kids are sick, or something happen like this head lice, I really feel I hate this place, and want to leave. But I also know that I will miss this place if someday we leave. I am very confused now. In fact, I was very boring when I was living in Finland, just few chinese friends, and never go out anywhere with my husband without kids, I mean really never, because no one can take care of them and let us go out. But I have fun in here, meeting many people, go out with my own friends sometimes, ladies lunch, coffee, shopping, go out with my husband without kids. I like chennai a lot before my family getting sick. Now I am really angry about this place and everything. Maybe I will try the Spa....I have never try it before..... Maybe things will goes better after the holidays.....or worse......

Dec 12th, 2007, 05:22	#59
kristinm Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Beautiful Bondi (not Bundi!) Posts: 1,547	Poor Sandy - I just want to hug you .... I know it means nothing now, but in a few years when they are off on their own here there and everywhere and don't seem to need you you will remember those days of having them underfoot fondly. Until then - You feel like a rat in a cage sometimes!!!! Don't feel guilty, we've all been there! All I can do is echo brownboy - try and find a nanny or carer or sitter - someone they love and who loves them who you feel safe leaving them with for a night.... ask around everyone you know. Join playgroups, join mother's groups, join anything you can... Pretty soon the older ones will start doing sleepovers - make sure you welcome their friends over so you have lots of favours to call in... It must be so hard coming from China where everyone pitches in to look after the kids - to a European country where you're left much more on your own and people don't 'interfere'. Its just my impression - I have been to neither place yet, but I would guess there would be more similarities in respect of children/family/sharing kids around between China and India than between China and Finland? Perhaps, once these health issues are over, you will tap into that more and begin to build your own extended 'family' in India... and I'm sure now the monsoon season is over those illnesses will begin to be less frequent... at least your immunity will be tip top after having everything at once!

User Name		Remember Me?
Password