Dengue... What is the truth?

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I have read in the India Newspapers and seen on tv quite a bit of news about children dying from Dengue fever recently, 40+ in Tamil Nadu was mentioned. I got the impression that the Govt. was trying to "downplay" the extent of this health issue. I got into conversation with a well connected woman, and she said that the incidence of Dengue fever is much wider spread than officials allow...

Seems quite a big elephant in the room?

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Seems quite a big elephant in the room?

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It's the disease de jour. Nobody talks about malaria now, chikungunya is hard to spell, and flu is just plain boring.

That doesn't mean that dengue isn't for real, it is, and yes, people die of it. Under-reported? Of course. In the first place, the majority of sufferers probably don't even see a doctor, they just spend a few weeks feeling ill and then get better. And mostly they (ahem, we) do actually get better. It can be mild, hardly noticeable. I doubt that it could ever be known how many people actually have it right now.
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Yes, governments are busy minimizing it, just as they are ignoring pollution (Delhi is said to be a "gas chamber"). The Lancet estimates that 2.5 million deaths in India per year are attributable to particulate matter in the air. What's 40 more deaths (in TN) due to dengue? A mere nothing. Besides, it is their fate, so there is nothing to be done about it. Just use air-conditioning in your car and at home, and you are relatively safe, so it is not really a problem for people like us.

Incidentally (and seriously), dengue hibernates in winter, so it should not be a big deal at the height of tourist season.
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You can't handle the truth!*

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* because, with dengue and such, nobody knows the truth anyway.

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Was there for two days about a week ago, before it got absolutely bad, but it was bad enough. My son and some foreigner friends later escaped to Lansdowne on my urging for 3 days. Returned on Sunday and reported that the air is still unbreathable.
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Delhi NCR is hell right now. As for dengue 40 detahs is not a very large number for India unless it happens at the same moment. Even then vases of dengue, chikunguniya are very less compared to the epidemic last year
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Bengal has it bad and the disease seems to have evolved to a new variety. At one time it was estimated that 80% of Mumbaikers had the antibody present in their blood..
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I doubt if the mosquitoes can survive in this smog - very little can.
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Dengue... What is the truth?

Lots of people have dengue with no symptoms at all, apparently especially in childhood, so lots of antibodies around is no surprise.

Not to repeat Wikipedia etc (best go to horse mouth for info) but...

4 stains off dengue. Catch one and immunity to it occurs. Catch it a second time and it is potentially very dangerous. Can become dengue hemorrhagic fever. That can kill. No vaccine, no cure, treatment is of symptoms and support.

And... As it happens... Step-grandson is gone to hospital just now, suspected.
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I am looking at this from a pensioner tourist perspective, for me it is about quantifying "risk".
I get dosed up with rabies vaccine, typhoid, polio, diptheria, etc, etc, after weighing risks, to maximise my chances of "remaining well in India".
I travel without health insurance, at my age and on my pension, it is too expensive for me.

If Dengue is not on the radar as a risk for tourists, that is fine with me... The concern is that there seem so many instances where the extent of risks is not known, or is hidden, for political reasons?

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Originally Posted by OldandRambling View Post ... The concern is that there seem so many instances where the extent of risks is not known, or is hidden, for political reasons?

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“October 6 was my admission (duty) day. From 9 am that day to 9 am the next day, I was responsible for patient admissions, referrals and even death. After spending 24 hours (on duty), what will my condition be?
“Every patient was suffering from fever. Many of them had blood reports stating that they had dengue… But doctors couldn’t attend to them as there were around 500 patients… District health authorities have been saying that the hospital has all necessary arrangements (to tackle dengue). But the hospital management is helpless. There is an unwritten instruction to hide the fact that the hospital lacks necessary facilities. Or else, there will be pressure.”


"People are dying of fever. I am trying to console them. In the death certificate I am writing 'fever with thrombocytopenia', not dengue."



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To minimize the exposure, perhaps you should consider the mountains. The weather is outstanding, though not for the mosquitoes and the views are fantastic and the air is, by and large, clean. The people are very nice. The drive is hair raising
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Originally Posted by OldandRambling View Post If Dengue is not on the radar as a risk for tourists, that is fine with me...
Dengue is carried by mosquitoes, and mosquitoes bit me just as much when I was a tourist as they have done since. So, I think that Dengue, along with other mentioned illnesses is on the radar as a risk.

What I would advise is that you forget about the numbers, and whether the reporting is politically motivated or not, and just consider that the disease exists here. It is just one more reason why you should do the usual stuff to protect yourself from those creatures.

As a tourist, you are probably more aware of that, and might well be already doing more to avoid getting bitten, than many locals. That, maybe, already puts you a bit under the radar; a bit less at risk.

There are a lot of Indians who believe that they don't get bitten by mosquitoes. They do, but they don't notice. The reason is that their immune systems no longer create itchy red swellings. So you have a vast number of people who may not consider themselves at any risk from mosquitoes-carried diseases until they find out that they have one.

Upshot: yes, you are at risk, but may, in a way, be at less risk just because you know you are.

Another thing is that you only hear about the dengue cases that kill people. This is only going to happen in certain circumstances, and for everyone who dies from dengue, there are erm... more than quite a few who don't. Quite a few who are not even very ill with it.

Personally, I'd say it wasn't much fun. I'd put it about equal with glandular fever among things that, on the whole, I'd rather not have experienced. It knocked me out for about the same time (4-6 weeks, I forget. And it is a double whammy disease, just as you start to feel better, it hits you again) and it made me feel probably a bit worse. The headache is dreadful. It was not fun, but at no time did I feel in need of a hospital. In fact, I didn't even visit the doc until I was actually over it.

Check out the symptoms. If you feel you might have it, go to a doctor/lab and get the test. If you feel you need, a room in a small, not-posh private hospital won't cost you vastly more than a hotel room.

Last but not least, I (as you know) am not a doctor.
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