Chai and lactose intolerance.

federica · Jan 3rd, 2007, 03:06

what about "black tea", "lemon tea", "kashmiri tea"? I know these things are not available at normal roadside tea stalls or on a train journey, but in a lot of tourist places you can get these teas, even in beach shacks...

robotvoice · Jan 3rd, 2007, 04:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namaste India Tours

OR the way he conscientiously wipes the rim of your glass with his right thumb and forefinger to "clean" it.

this thread is making me miss india

goangoangone · Jan 3rd, 2007, 09:18

Carry t bags and ask for boiled water.

I can't drink it because of sugar.

LArkitekt · Jan 3rd, 2007, 09:59

one of the important reasons for such great tasting milk tea (chai) is because milk is boiled for a long time or kept in constant state of slight boil or simmer

.

you will never get that taste by giving him/her your soy milk and asking him/her to prepare you tea.

were you lactose intolerant even with organic hormone free milk back in states?

jwitt · Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:13

Ha, I never thought this thread would get so much attention. Apparently, chai really does inspire.

Thank you LArkitekt! That is what I'm saying, from what I've heard there is only one true chai experience. I've never tried organic milk because my intolerance came on many years ago, before the organic rage. Have you heard it making a difference to others? Do the chai stalls in India use organice milk (ha, I doubt it!)

gitak · Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:42

So if I was that desperate for tea, I might just bring some Oregon Chai packets, get some boiling hot water, cardamon, and a good imagination of milk.

I feel your lactose intolerant pain. This sounds like a business idea waiting to happen for us lactose intolerant souls out there

. Anyone?

jwitt · Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:47

gitak - but I can do that wherever and whenever. I'm not desperate for tea, I'm desperate for Indian chai.

Nick-H · Jan 3rd, 2007, 11:33

Milk is an essential ingredient of chai. It is just not going to be the same with soya milk: it will not thicken and I doubt that it will have that slight sweetness that cooked milk aquires.

LArkitekt · Jan 3rd, 2007, 17:24

hey jwitt:

yes, i have known a couple of people who faired better with organic milk products. sometimes induced hormones in milk cause upset stomach. in india, organic or not, you wont find as much hormones in milk products as you find back in states. may be you can take a chance and give a regular chai a try.

if you still want chai with lactose free milk poweder or something like that, your best bet is to do that with an indian family, if you get a chance to visit or be with one of them...unlike whats been suggested you will find it hard to convince a road side vendor to take off his whole boiler from his stove and find some pan to heat up your soy milk or whatever.

good luck!

jwitt · Jan 3rd, 2007, 21:41

Great ideas LArkitekt. Maybe I'll do some organic milk "testing" this weekend in the safety of my own country first!

cyberhippie · Jan 3rd, 2007, 21:45

Just a thought but does lactose intolerance run to ALL milk, since in many places serve buffelo milk instead of cow milk!!

machadinha · Jan 3rd, 2007, 22:45

Along those same lines I was wondering if

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwitt

At least I can indulge in the mango lassies.

yoghurt wouldn't be a problem.

OP has explained however it's not a very serious condition with him/her, but might be handy for other future seekers. (And indeed, the lenghts a chai thread can run to eh.)

jwitt · Jan 3rd, 2007, 23:09

Yogurt is much less of a problem, I think having to do with the cultures. I even eat cheese, ice cream, and cappuccinos in moderation with mild to no effect. It seems to just be when I consume 1/4 cup or more of straight milk that the real problems happen. I'm going to the store in a little while so I'll pick up some organic milk and post back with the (not too graphic) results.

I'm also planning on spending some time at an Ayurvedic center while I'm in India. I know milk is a big part of the Indian diet and I wonder if they will be able to administer some miracle measures while I'm there.

Nick-H · Jan 3rd, 2007, 23:12

Chai; toilets; malaria; dress

---where would IndiaMike be without them?

cyberhippie · Jan 3rd, 2007, 23:17

Hmm a quick google tells me that milk from Goats and Buffalo are SOMETIMES tolerated by people intolerant to cow milk . You never know this may be the answer for you!!
Of course you would have to be sure it was buffalo milk in the chai!!

Jan 3rd, 2007, 09:18	#18
goangoangone Maha Guru Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Goa Posts: 1,457	Carry t bags and ask for boiled water. I can't drink it because of sugar. __________________ GoanGoan......here

Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:42	#21
gitak Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3	Call Oregon Chai 911 So if I was that desperate for tea, I might just bring some Oregon Chai packets, get some boiling hot water, cardamon, and a good imagination of milk. I feel your lactose intolerant pain. This sounds like a business idea waiting to happen for us lactose intolerant souls out there . Anyone?

Jan 3rd, 2007, 11:33	#23
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 24,220	Milk is an essential ingredient of chai. It is just not going to be the same with soya milk: it will not thicken and I doubt that it will have that slight sweetness that cooked milk aquires. __________________ . IndiaMike Mod Team (The Grumpy One)

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Jan 3rd, 2007, 03:06	#16
federica Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bavaria Posts: 673	what about "black tea", "lemon tea", "kashmiri tea"? I know these things are not available at normal roadside tea stalls or on a train journey, but in a lot of tourist places you can get these teas, even in beach shacks...

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LArkitekt Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In Transit Posts: 127	one of the important reasons for such great tasting milk tea (chai) is because milk is boiled for a long time or kept in constant state of slight boil or simmer . you will never get that taste by giving him/her your soy milk and asking him/her to prepare you tea. were you lactose intolerant even with organic hormone free milk back in states?

Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:13	#20
jwitt Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 52	Ha, I never thought this thread would get so much attention. Apparently, chai really does inspire. Thank you LArkitekt! That is what I'm saying, from what I've heard there is only one true chai experience. I've never tried organic milk because my intolerance came on many years ago, before the organic rage. Have you heard it making a difference to others? Do the chai stalls in India use organice milk (ha, I doubt it!)

Jan 3rd, 2007, 10:47	#22
jwitt Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 52	gitak - but I can do that wherever and whenever. I'm not desperate for tea, I'm desperate for Indian chai.

Jan 3rd, 2007, 17:24	#24
LArkitekt Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In Transit Posts: 127	hey jwitt: yes, i have known a couple of people who faired better with organic milk products. sometimes induced hormones in milk cause upset stomach. in india, organic or not, you wont find as much hormones in milk products as you find back in states. may be you can take a chance and give a regular chai a try. if you still want chai with lactose free milk poweder or something like that, your best bet is to do that with an indian family, if you get a chance to visit or be with one of them...unlike whats been suggested you will find it hard to convince a road side vendor to take off his whole boiler from his stove and find some pan to heat up your soy milk or whatever. good luck!

Jan 3rd, 2007, 21:41	#25
jwitt Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 52	Great ideas LArkitekt. Maybe I'll do some organic milk "testing" this weekend in the safety of my own country first!

Jan 3rd, 2007, 21:45	#26
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,014	Just a thought but does lactose intolerance run to ALL milk, since in many places serve buffelo milk instead of cow milk!!

Jan 3rd, 2007, 23:09	#28
jwitt Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 52	Yogurt is much less of a problem, I think having to do with the cultures. I even eat cheese, ice cream, and cappuccinos in moderation with mild to no effect. It seems to just be when I consume 1/4 cup or more of straight milk that the real problems happen. I'm going to the store in a little while so I'll pick up some organic milk and post back with the (not too graphic) results. I'm also planning on spending some time at an Ayurvedic center while I'm in India. I know milk is a big part of the Indian diet and I wonder if they will be able to administer some miracle measures while I'm there.

Jan 3rd, 2007, 23:12	#29
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 24,220	Chai; toilets; malaria; dress ---where would IndiaMike be without them?

Jan 3rd, 2007, 23:17	#30
cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,014	Hmm a quick google tells me that milk from Goats and Buffalo are SOMETIMES tolerated by people intolerant to cow milk . You never know this may be the answer for you!! Of course you would have to be sure it was buffalo milk in the chai!!

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