Arthritis Sufferer

PeakXV · May 1st, 2008, 22:16

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Originally Posted by karuna

I don't understand the problem with evidence. If you went to your doctor with an ailment and s/he said "Take this pill. There's no evidence that it worked on anyone we've given it to before but hey, who needs evidence?" wouldn't you demand to be given something that they *know* actually works instead? Lack of evidence doesn't mean it hasn't been tested, it means it's been tested and found to not work.

As long as it isn't hills of pills & painkillers .... yes. Sadly it might be too much work, these days, for some sufferers & medical professionals to go through each individual diet and fine tune it for the optimum performance ..... especially with all the painkillers & tablets on the market these days.

And because diet is such a personal thing - it is unlikely that you will ever get universal 'evidence' or 'proof' from specific/specialized diets. Like federica, my family has also benefited nicely from scrutinizing food choices to reduce arthritic pain.

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Originally Posted by karuna

Like I said, healthy diet- the low fat, oily fish, fresh fruit and veg diet that we all know if not love-will indeed make you feel better. It will not prevent or cure arthritis*. Exercise - and this would include yoga- is also very beneficial, if not critical (the last thing someone with arthritis should do is remain immobile, although there are days, particularly with rheumatoid arthritis, where people feel utterly incapable).

Yes 'feel better' is what life is all about.

If you learn to put the right food in your body that minimizes inflammation and counteracts these autoimmune diseases et al then you are half way there - are you not? Once that is all in order .... then perhaps begin looking for other methods of ayurvedic/holistic or medical treatments to further enhance your health, mobility and overall lifestyle.

edwardseco · May 2nd, 2008, 12:13

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Do you really need 'hard' evidence. Common sense suggests eating a balanced diet with plenty of fresh fruit & veggies should give you the necessary needed energy to live a more healthy & active lifetstyle. In turn, daily exercise will insure proper blood flow to the joints. Eating too many acidifying foods like processed sugary foods, dairy, meats, coffee, alcohol, etc. will most certainly aggravate or enhance any existing joint pain and may cause additional problems further down the road

Well as my spouse says common sense isn't common. Besides, I need evidence to prove that we should go back to living in caves, burning widows and witches, etc..

amarama · May 3rd, 2008, 08:56

Aside from drinking plenty of fluids, get proper movement, even if all you can do is tap your foot. Nick, staying properly hydrated is not folklore. As you age your sense of thirst becomes uncalbrated. One fix is actually to force yourself to drink water until such a time that your thrist reseptors recalibrate.

Nick-H · May 3rd, 2008, 09:44

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Nick, staying properly hydrated is not folklore. As you age your sense of thirst becomes uncalbrated.

Oh! such lack of faith in the human body!

I do believe, as I think I posted earlier, that people moving to different climates need to drink more than may may think, but otherwise, thirst and hunger are just basic instincts.

Of course things can go wrong, otherwise nobody would ever become anorexic --- but for the average, reasonably healthy person the body is a self-regulating machine.

There is a trick every school child knows: decide to die by stopping breathing, and just see how long before your body forces you to give up the idea!

From an article in The British Medical Journal discussing common beliefs held by doctors that cannot be supported:

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People should drink at least eight glasses of water a day

The advice to drink at least eight glasses of water a day can be found throughout the popular press.w1-w4 One origin may be a 1945 recommendation that stated: A suitable allowance of water for adults is 2.5 litres daily in most instances. An ordinary standard for diverse persons is 1 millilitre for each calorie of food. Most of this quantity is contained in prepared foods.w5 If the last, crucial sentence is ignored, the statement could be interpreted as instruction to drink eight glasses of water a day.w6

Another endorsement may have come from a prominent nutritionist, Frederick Stare, who once recommended, without references, the consumption "around 6 to 8 glasses per 24 hours," which could be "in the form of coffee, tea, milk, soft drinks, beer, etc."w7 The complete lack of evidence supporting the recommendation to drink six to eight glasses of water a day is exhaustively catalogued in an invited review by Heinz Valtin in the American Journal of Physiology.w8 Furthermore, existing studies suggest that adequate fluid intake is usually met through typical daily consumption of juice, milk, and even caffeinated drinks.w9 In contrast, drinking excess amounts of water can be dangerous, resulting in water intoxication, hyponatraemia, and even death.

Of course we must all drink enough fluid. I still maintain that our bodies are better guides to this than the marketing departments of the water-bottling companies. "so many glasses/pints/litres a day" is nonsense.

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May 3rd, 2008, 08:56	#18
amarama Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: very near the Mexican border Posts: 149	Aside from drinking plenty of fluids, get proper movement, even if all you can do is tap your foot. Nick, staying properly hydrated is not folklore. As you age your sense of thirst becomes uncalbrated. One fix is actually to force yourself to drink water until such a time that your thrist reseptors recalibrate.

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