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I began taking Larium at home (Ottawa) and I was really sick after the second tablet. I was also not sleeping and somewhat anxious, although this could be due to the excitement of travelling. I consulted a pharmacist who did not recommend Larium at all as her husband had extreme paranoid behaviour while taking it. When I landed it Mumbai I switched to Doxy as the pharmacist believed their would be no problem with this. I was fine. I did not notice any sun sensitivity but I did wear sunscreen. I also took Doxy while in SE Asia with no problems. Hope this helps.
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With all of the turmoil about Malaria meds and the bad side effects plus as it seems many are ineffective in India the Qinghao seems to a very good option and worth taking seriously.
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I had a very nasty experience with Larium in Bangkok - flat on my back with palpitations for hours (after just one tablet) - and don't get on too well with Chloroquine either, but nothing as dramatic (nausea/faintness).
I will definitely be using Malerone, whatever it costs, for our up-coming trip. But someone once recommended the following homeopathic alternative to me: 6 times weekly (2 a day) = China 6 1 time weekly (2 a day) = Malaria 30 NB. I have absolutely no idea if this is effective (or even what this recipe means exactly, not being a regular user of homeopathy), but the person who gave it to me seemed convinced enough to prefer this over the similarly alarming reactions she got to the conventional drugs on offer at the time. Has anyone else heared of this?
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for fevers(of which malaria is one), a natural remedy
is Boneset, a herb that can be taken in ticnture form. Historically used to treat fevers, including malaria:
'Boneset was traditionally used for fevers and is said to be a principal Native American remedy for malaria. It became known to the European settlers and was used in New York in 1830 to treat malaria. It is also said to have been recommended in ancient times by Dioscorides for ulcers, dysentery, reptile bites, chronic fevers, and liver disease. The plant is used in herbal medicine for flu with aches and pains.' http://www.herbs2000.com/herbs/herbs_boneset.htm |
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If a little fever was all malaria was about I would have been much happier and millions more would have been alive..
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edward
malaria:
'The early features of malaria cannot be distinguished from other febrile illnesses. Vague symptoms of headache, decreased appetite, body aches, joint pains, feeling of cold may be present. Fever of malaria is associated with feeling of cold (chips) and with shivering (rigors). The temperature may touch as high as 1040 F and becomes normal after 4-5 hours with or without medicines. In vivax infection, fever usually occurs on alternate day and if it is not treated it may recur regularly every 6-12 weeks and is rarely fatal.' http://www.sgrh.com/faq/malaria.htm Its an intermittant fever. Thats its sign, and a clue to its treatment. Again, boneset is the traditional remedy used by native americans and early settlers (who learned it from them) FOR malaria and other fevers. |
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Neem
Sometime back I did some research on Azadirachta indica Neem and have a book beside me NEEM A Tree For Solving Global Problems (1993) Report of an Ad Hoc Panel of the Board of Science and Technology for Intenational Development National Research Council. In the Forward a piece says "The tree has relieved so many different pains, fevers, infections, and other complaints that it has been called "the village pharmacey".
"Indeed, it deters certain biting insects more effectively than the synthetic chemical called "Deet" (N,N-diethyl-m-toluamide), which is now founds in hundereds of consumer insect repellents." "Practitioners of the Indian Ayurved medicine system have ben preparing neem in oral doses for malarial patients for centuries." (since 2000 BC) "In India it was recently (pre 1993) reported that components of the ethonal extract of neem leaves and seeds were effective against chloroquine-sensitive and chloroquine-resistant strains of the malaria parasite." There is it seems a great deal of uses of Neem including birth control that is being researched and formulations for different products are patented and sold. |
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The Neem tree is a little like the coconut/palm tree with lots of uses. Is it not the twigs from the Neem tree which are used for cleaning teeth, ie you break of a twig and brush away, the poor mans toothbrush & paste combined,,,,,,,,, |
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Most definately the poor mans tooth brush.
"Control of dental cavities and pyorrhea, antibacterial and antiviral qualities, topical treatments for lice, treatment for psoriasis, topical treatment for warts, treatment for parasites in the human digestive tract and treatment for parasites in the human blood and lymph systems, including those causing malaria, Chagas' disease, river blindness, elephantiasis, and sleeping sickness." "Neem oil is a potential new contraceptive for women. It kills spermatoza within 30 seconds. A neem-oil formulation called "Sensal" is now sold in India for contraceptive purposes." I have one tree growing out of 300 that germinated some years back, easy to grow in India but tricky for those that don't pay to close attention elsewhere. ![]() |
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Brianct, saying that Malaria is just fever is completely ignoring the cause of the fever. There are many medicines, herbal and otherwise that will bring down a fever. Might make you more comfortable, won't kill those nasty little bugs that caused it in the first place.
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you forget
boneset was used traditionally to treat malaria by native americans and early settlers.
Dont confuse boneset with any old anti-fever drug |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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well i used paludrine pills against malaria for a week and get sick and pain in my mouth and face so i stopt with that f*cking stuff!!!
i heard from 2 teachers at my vipassana course that india is already good as free from malaria for something like 15 years and there are a lot of peole who are not using anything for it (i mean the tourists) im not gonna worry about i have 3 bottles of 50% deet and that will be enought for me though. but you never know, and it depends on your health and immume system to i think ![]()
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(Previous) Anecdotal evidence is of minimal value. No malaria in India give me a break! The CDC site might be a better resource than some person on the street.
Brian, I share some enthusiasm for herbal remedies. But, if boneset was so good in comparison to other remedies wouldn't some bright entrepreneur have minted millions on it by now, conspiracy theories aside.? |
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What happened?
Join Date: Aug 2004
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i heard from several local people that there is no malaria for already 15 years in india.
Is that so? http://www.malariahotspots.co.uk/html/en/malaria/ ![]()
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"But, if boneset was so good in comparison to other remedies wouldn't some bright entrepreneur have minted millions on it by now, conspiracy theories aside.?"
The difficulty is that as so often is the case we are conditioned by the science and the medicine, so if the entrepreneur makes a product unless the big business endorses it with their marketing schemes doctors with their freebies and gratuities won't recommend it so another potential product is relegated to the fringe dwellers tea caddy for spicing up an otherwise dull day. |
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