Trip to Dudhsagar falls?

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Anyone been recently? I understand it's only feasible by train to Kulem, and the only viable trains are from Margao at 8 and back from Kulem at 12.55 - is that long enough?

Imagine the road is not passable for a rented scooter?
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if available by scooter , i want to visit there ?
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the last time i went was in 1995. pretty sure we just hired a jeep taxi share. no idea on price, not that it would be relevant 13 years later...

worth a day trip though - if anyone attempts it on bike i'd like to hear a trip report, wouldnt mind doing it myself this year...
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If you go by road (Jeep) you have to travel in provided Jeeps, the Jeep costs are divided between the passengers in the Jeep.

When you arrive at the start point there is this guy who seems like a an army major who does all the organising. The more people you share the Jeep with the cheaper the cost of the trip up to the falls. I have been a few times but not in recent years. I am sure that the only way up to the falls is either by this Jeep trip or up above the falls by train.
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Thanks! Do you think you'd have to wait long for a jeep?
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No waiting time at all on the occasions that I went to the falls, I did go early so I was on on of the first runs up to the falls, before the crowds that you sometimes get.

Nice to be the first to swim in the pool at the bottom of the falls and see the monkeys come down off the rock face. A nice memorable experience.
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Thanks - how long do you think is need at the falls? I'm trying to work out if that train combination will allow enough time.
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doodh sagar best viewed by train

The problem with the passenger trains is that they do not go the full distance and cover the whole section from Londa to Madgaon. The climb begins after castle rock where 3 diesel locomotives are attached from behind to work as bankers. The falls come between Castle rock and Kulem. It's a steep climb or climb down. The train will go slowly because of the many gradients and tunnels that are enroute. It is a very enjoyable train ride.

Train seems to be the best way to view the falls because it goes around them. There are four trains that cover the section, the Goa express which leaves Vasco in the afternoon, the biweekly Bangalore[yesvantpur] train which leaves Vasco in the evening, the weekly once Madras train that leaves Vasco in the afternoon and the Poona-Cochin train which is also weekly once. The best bet appears looks like to take the Goa to Belgaum and then return by bus to Goa.
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I understood that Kulem is before the climb (as it only takes 40 mins from Margao), and from there you take the jeep to the bottom of the falls. I went over the "top" on my previous trip to India 20 yrs back (travelling from Mumbai to Goa) and still have a vivid memory of it.

Do you have times for the "Goa to Belgaum" option? What train is this?
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Goa Express

It is the Goa Express, the 1510 that leaves Vasco to Delhi. On Tuesdays you have the 1098 which comes from Cochin and reaches Madgaon at1520 and gets to Belgaum at 2000hrs. The same Goa Express returns from Belgaum at 00.50hrs to get to Madgaon early next morning. You might want to exercise the road option for the return journey.

VSG VASCO DA GAMA 1 Source 15:10 0 1
2 MAO MADGAON 1 15:44 15:49 27 1
3 SVM SANVERDAM CHUCH 1 15:58 16:00 43 1
4 QLM KULEM 1 16:30 16:35 61 1
5 CLR CASTLE ROCK 1 17:35 17:40 120 1
6 LD LONDA JN 1 18:40 18:50 144 1
7 BGM BELGAUM 1 19:45 19:50 195
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Thanks! I imagine Castle Rock is some way up, but before the point where the rail line actually crosses the falls - it doesn't appear to actually stop at Dudhsagar. So this idea would involve seeing the falls only from the train?
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Dudh Sagar

The 3 alcos freighter class from the Gooty locomotive shed will in all probability, be huffing and puffing, pushing your train from behind with a lone diesel engine belting it out in the front. Hope your SL coach is not close to the lead locomotive. It is a steep climb or decline. The diesel locomotive will have to work hard and will may smoke profusely if they forgot to clean the filters. It is best to be in SL class because there is no point in doing this scenic ride being cooped up in an AC cubicle. When the falls come, I bet that the doors of an AC coach will get crowded.

The train will slow down with lot of younger passengers whistling as they approach the falls or whenever it enters a long tunnel. It will slow down near the falls, because it travels on the many numerous sharp curves of the track, around the falls, but will not slow down.
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Thanks! I think we'll go for my original idea of Kulem then jeep, as the idea of having swim etc sounds v appealing.
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Train is best

Do not rule out the train option. It is much quicker and gives a comprehensive view of the falls. It is an interesting ride. You could come back by jeep again, once you have got a fair idea of the terrain. The train will do it fine. It does get dirty with insensitive tourists throwing plastic bags and pepsi cans and resembles the seaham coast and the area near Sellafield. It is scenic but not worth a jeep ride, in my view. You could decide to revisit it after you have covered the area by train,because you will get a definite idea about taking time to walk around there etc.
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Train is best option

Do not rule out the train option. It is much quicker and gives a comprehensive view of the falls. It is an interesting ride. You could come back by jeep again, once you have got a fair idea of the terrain. The train will do it fine. It does get dirty with insensitive tourists throwing plastic bags and pepsi cans and resembles the filth near the seaham coast and the area near Sellafield. It is scenic but not worth a jeep ride, in my view. You could decide to revisit it after you have covered the area by train,because you will get a definite idea about taking time to walk around there etc.

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