sea-snakes in Goa?????????

ganga17 · Jan 16th, 2006, 01:10

.............a problem close to the beaches???? I just read on another webpage thats a problem in Goa. Three years ago I saw a few dead on the beach. Any accidents in the last time and if yes where?
I dont panic but Im a bit afraid of them because a few years ago a got nearly bitten by one in Thailand om Ko Tao.

PeakXV · Jan 16th, 2006, 01:46

We ran over a Python in South Goa, last time, it was right in the middle of the road ... thought it was a speed bump. But I've never seen a water snake!

Wanderer22 · Jan 16th, 2006, 02:32

Yes, They certainly turn up on Goa beaches. I heard that the fishermen find them in their nets and toss them on the beach to die while sorting their days catch. Last Feburary walking the beach at Arambol I noticed something odd on the sand and went closer to investigate. It turned out a be a very much alive Banded sea snake!

A long haired male feringhee got to it before me and proceeded to take off his flip flops, using these to push it back into the water where it swam off. This all happened so fast I didn't have time to say that sea snakes are reported to be ten times more venomous than cobras, and there is NO antiserum available.

Fortunately the feringhee didn't get bit and the sea snake, (a harmless animal if you leave it alone) lived for another day. Have also heard that the mouths of sea snakes are very small so fingers tips and the webs between fingers are where most bites occur.

More.... http://www.survivaliq.com/survival/p...-sea-snake.htm

W22

Yetijuice · Jan 16th, 2006, 04:35

I first went to Goa for Christmas 1983. My first night in Goa was spent at Bob's Inn and Bar in Candolim, just south of Calangute. Bob complained about the early morning ruckus made by the Catholic church next door on Easter Sunday and Christmas. I asked Bob about the late night/early morning noise at his bar every night of the year. Bob said "That's different. We make so much noise nobody could fall asleep. We never wake people up, but the church does."

One of the irregulars at Bob's Inn and Bar was Jungli Barry. Jungli Barry was a Scotchman. He visited India, got to the beaches of Goa, and decided that he would NEVER go back to Scotland again.

When Jungli Barry's passport expired he simply stayed on in India. Jungli Barry had one stretch of 20 consecutive years in India. In 1985 he visited London for a couple months. True to his word, Jungli Barry did not go back to Scotland.

If Jungli Barry had 50 rupees in his pocket he considered himself a "rupees millionaire." Jungli Barry made a living for himself telling stories in beachfront bars in exchange for tourist-bought beers. Jungli Barry also sold hash oil on the side.

The day before Christmas 1983 I smoked a cigarette with hash oil on it with Jungli Barry. We then strolled north along the beach from Candolim to Calangute to Baga. At one point Barry distracted me by pointing out the artist paintings on the bows of fishing boats that were pulled up onto the beach sand above the high tide line. While I was looking at the fishing boats two fisherman quietly put two cobra snakes in the surfline in front of us. Barry and I continued walking down the beach. Four feet before we reached the cobras Barry threw his arm out in front of me and shouted "Snakes!" I jumped backwards four feet and my blood pressure doubled. The next wave washed up and the snakes swam in the surf.

Two days later my friend Magic Michael and I took magic mushrooms an hour before sunset at Vagator Beach. I did yoga on the beach waiting for the mushrooms to kick in. We watched the sunset and enjoyed the ocean horizon and sky until it got dark. Then we wandered in the surf below the cliffs of Fort Chaporra. The weather was warm and dry. There were rock outcrops in the surf that were 10 feet high. That got me to thinking about deserts and snakes. I told myself don't worry about snakes. When is the last time you saw snakes swimming in the ocean? "Two days ago." I convinced myself that had been a practical joke and remained in the water. Waves were breaking from three directions around me. There were phosphorescent plankton in the water. When a wave broke there appeared to be thousands of stars in the ocean. We walked back to Vagator and had a fine seafood dinner at Lobo's restaurant.

Over Christmas 1995 my family and I returned to Goa. We stayed in Arambol for 5 weeks. On 26 December 1995 I visited Bob's Inn and Bar and had a last beer with Jungli Barry. He had just returned from Palolim. Two weeks later I returned to Bob's Inn and Bar and learned that Jungli Barry had died on 3 January 1996. I had a beer with Barry's friends and looked at photos of his cremation. Not to worry about dying in India. Nobody gets out of here alive!

vargoje3 · Jan 16th, 2006, 12:28

Banded sea snakes are common but they are very non aggressive. The only way you could possibly get bit is if you were picking one up or if you step on one. Even then they are reluctant to bite. I was in the andamans last week and saw a lot of them but they are harmless generally. One of the ppl in the group even stepped on on accidently, it simply swam away very fast and did not even show any sign of being aggressive. Flight rather then fight is what they are all about.

Ravibagal · Jan 16th, 2006, 12:42

Baga river/creek is notorious for sea snakes. I was told by the fisherfolk that several locals and tourists regularly get bitten.

Jan 16th, 2006, 01:10	#1
ganga17 Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: germany Posts: 24	sea-snakes in Goa????????? .............a problem close to the beaches???? I just read on another webpage thats a problem in Goa. Three years ago I saw a few dead on the beach. Any accidents in the last time and if yes where? I dont panic but Im a bit afraid of them because a few years ago a got nearly bitten by one in Thailand om Ko Tao.

Jan 16th, 2006, 01:46	#2
PeakXV Naan.tering Nabob Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Abode of Glooscap Posts: 4,515	We ran over a Python in South Goa, last time, it was right in the middle of the road ... thought it was a speed bump. But I've never seen a water snake! __________________ What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lives within us. ~ Oliver Wendell Holmes Don't go to India ~ Pre-trip Warnings & Misconceptions?

Jan 16th, 2006, 04:35	#4
Yetijuice Old Trekkers Never Die, They Go Over the Next Pass Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Behind the Orange Curtain, California Posts: 182	Jungli Barry I first went to Goa for Christmas 1983. My first night in Goa was spent at Bob's Inn and Bar in Candolim, just south of Calangute. Bob complained about the early morning ruckus made by the Catholic church next door on Easter Sunday and Christmas. I asked Bob about the late night/early morning noise at his bar every night of the year. Bob said "That's different. We make so much noise nobody could fall asleep. We never wake people up, but the church does." One of the irregulars at Bob's Inn and Bar was Jungli Barry. Jungli Barry was a Scotchman. He visited India, got to the beaches of Goa, and decided that he would NEVER go back to Scotland again. When Jungli Barry's passport expired he simply stayed on in India. Jungli Barry had one stretch of 20 consecutive years in India. In 1985 he visited London for a couple months. True to his word, Jungli Barry did not go back to Scotland. If Jungli Barry had 50 rupees in his pocket he considered himself a "rupees millionaire." Jungli Barry made a living for himself telling stories in beachfront bars in exchange for tourist-bought beers. Jungli Barry also sold hash oil on the side. The day before Christmas 1983 I smoked a cigarette with hash oil on it with Jungli Barry. We then strolled north along the beach from Candolim to Calangute to Baga. At one point Barry distracted me by pointing out the artist paintings on the bows of fishing boats that were pulled up onto the beach sand above the high tide line. While I was looking at the fishing boats two fisherman quietly put two cobra snakes in the surfline in front of us. Barry and I continued walking down the beach. Four feet before we reached the cobras Barry threw his arm out in front of me and shouted "Snakes!" I jumped backwards four feet and my blood pressure doubled. The next wave washed up and the snakes swam in the surf. Two days later my friend Magic Michael and I took magic mushrooms an hour before sunset at Vagator Beach. I did yoga on the beach waiting for the mushrooms to kick in. We watched the sunset and enjoyed the ocean horizon and sky until it got dark. Then we wandered in the surf below the cliffs of Fort Chaporra. The weather was warm and dry. There were rock outcrops in the surf that were 10 feet high. That got me to thinking about deserts and snakes. I told myself don't worry about snakes. When is the last time you saw snakes swimming in the ocean? "Two days ago." I convinced myself that had been a practical joke and remained in the water. Waves were breaking from three directions around me. There were phosphorescent plankton in the water. When a wave broke there appeared to be thousands of stars in the ocean. We walked back to Vagator and had a fine seafood dinner at Lobo's restaurant. Over Christmas 1995 my family and I returned to Goa. We stayed in Arambol for 5 weeks. On 26 December 1995 I visited Bob's Inn and Bar and had a last beer with Jungli Barry. He had just returned from Palolim. Two weeks later I returned to Bob's Inn and Bar and learned that Jungli Barry had died on 3 January 1996. I had a beer with Barry's friends and looked at photos of his cremation. Not to worry about dying in India. Nobody gets out of here alive!

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Jan 16th, 2006, 02:32	#3
Wanderer22 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 472	Yes, They certainly turn up on Goa beaches. I heard that the fishermen find them in their nets and toss them on the beach to die while sorting their days catch. Last Feburary walking the beach at Arambol I noticed something odd on the sand and went closer to investigate. It turned out a be a very much alive Banded sea snake! A long haired male feringhee got to it before me and proceeded to take off his flip flops, using these to push it back into the water where it swam off. This all happened so fast I didn't have time to say that sea snakes are reported to be ten times more venomous than cobras, and there is NO antiserum available. Fortunately the feringhee didn't get bit and the sea snake, (a harmless animal if you leave it alone) lived for another day. Have also heard that the mouths of sea snakes are very small so fingers tips and the webs between fingers are where most bites occur. More.... http://www.survivaliq.com/survival/p...-sea-snake.htm W22

Jan 16th, 2006, 12:28	#5
vargoje3 Fishing Master Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 177	Banded sea snakes are common but they are very non aggressive. The only way you could possibly get bit is if you were picking one up or if you step on one. Even then they are reluctant to bite. I was in the andamans last week and saw a lot of them but they are harmless generally. One of the ppl in the group even stepped on on accidently, it simply swam away very fast and did not even show any sign of being aggressive. Flight rather then fight is what they are all about.

Jan 16th, 2006, 12:42	#6
Ravibagal Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: India Posts: 83	Baga river/creek is notorious for sea snakes. I was told by the fisherfolk that several locals and tourists regularly get bitten.

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