Old scam but I got fooled


#1 Dec 2nd, 2014, 13:22
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I just got back from India yesterday and it is my last visit to goa. I have been going to India for 40 years, not regular. but every year for the last ten. I always pop into to goa to see friends and two weeks is enough before i go elsewhere. The greed and cynical cheating has worn me down.

I stayed for my last 3 nights in the Manvin hotel in Panjim, 2,400 for 3 nights which is the usual rate, i have sayed there a few times. When i went to check out they demanded an additional 2,400 and said that i had only paid a deposit. Silly me didn;t get a reciept.

They had failed to give me a early call (i had a flight to get) a trick to hope you oversleep to get another days rent. I asked to see the manager ;joe; but he was away. I was furious and as i was short on time, due to no alarm call! i couldn;t wait for the tourist police which usually works. I ended up paying a thousand and it has left a bad taste in my mouth.

There were several other small but annoying attempts at ripping me off. I was glad to get to Bombay where i don't have to ask the price of everything before i buy. A taxi from VT to Colaba is around 60-80 rupees. I never ask and rarely get asked for more, if i do i smile and hand over 70 or 80 no problems.
same with coconuts, they try to get a hundred in Goa, in bombay its always 35-40 AND i don't need to ask first.

Bye bye Goa and good luck with the russians
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I stayed for my last 3 nights in the Manvin hotel in Panjim, 2,400 for 3 nights which is the usual rate, i have sayed there a few times. When i went to check out they demanded an additional 2,400 and said that i had only paid a deposit. Silly me didn;t get a reciept.

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Was the room rate 800 per night or 2400 per night? Two problems in Goa is that hotel/guesthouse employees can have very long working hours and some drink too much alcohol. These two combined lead to muddled billing. Yes, keep receipts and check them carefully.
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Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I hardly pay attention to receipts in lodges but from now on I will.
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I think i know the differince between a 800 hotel, the Manvin and a 2,200 hotel the Aroma, both in Panjim and i have stayed at both. long working hours is not a reason for stealing from guests. The bill wasn't "muddled" it was a straight forward cheat, they new i had a flight to get and could not wait around to argue which i would have done.
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Certainly a bad experience. I hope you can forgive Goa in time.
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When i got the cab to to airport i was furious. I have spent so much time in Goa/Panjim over the years and i feel like local, i know loads of people. I asked the cab to stop so could i could get a bottle of water. Its 25 or 30 rupees usually. we stoped at a little shop and I handed over 30 and as i got in the cab i was called back and she gave me back 10 rupees. This is a REAL goan. But i fear they are a dying breed. There is a cigaret stall/shop in Panjim where you could get local prices, but in the last 5 years has upped the prices, its still cheaper than calangute but its a sign.
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At tourist places I was take receipt all the deposits and for even a cup of tea or sign the bill, just to avoid any repeat claim.

It helps a lot in settling claims.

And also I never depend on hotel guys to wake me up in the morning. My phone-alarm is the best support for that!
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That is what i usually do but this time i was lulled into a false sense of security, familiar place, Familiar face, familiar hotel i felt no need.
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I just tried to e mail the tourist dept concerning the Manvins i am jet lagged and have nothing to do for a few days and i would love to at least make that bloke who ripped me off feel uncomfortable and maybe save others from the same scam. Anybody have a current e mail for the tourist dept?
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Hi Norman......feel for your loss and being cheated in a known environment.
However it would not be fair to cast all of Goa in the same paint, cause of one or a few cheats.
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You may lodge your complaint to Goa Police by writing at complaint@goapolice.gov.in.

You can send your complaint Director, Goa Tourism by writing at dir_tour.goa@nic.in. There is assurance, all information submitted here will be kept completely confidential and will not be made available outside the Department.
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Read my post above, concerning my taxi to the airport!
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Norman, before making any official complaints, perhaps it would be a good idea to speak to Joe, the hotel manager, who was away when you left. As a regular resident at the hotel, I am sure he will go out of his way to placate you and to clear up the mistake, if any.
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That e mail address failed, as do all the others on the website.
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I'm really surprised how this "scam" has affected you so badly, you say you have been visiting India for 40 years and the last 10 years consecutively you go on to say have you come across many more in your travels yet this one has got to you, is it because it's the first time you've been stung? or because you are fed up of being stung? These scams are not peculiar to Goa I've come across them all over India the whole country is a mine field, if your a tourist you are target for this sort of thing but with your experience of India you know that.
I cannot understand why you are singling out Goa.

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