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Old Dec 30th, 2007, 21:42   #46
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As one who always says that the contribution of foreign tourists to the Goan economy is overstated, I am sorry that things have come to this pass. Not because of the impact on the Goan economy alone, overstated or not- but because a mess has been made of Goa by successive governments.



On the evidence and the history, unfortunately,I have my doubts.
Hi Capt,

Totally agree.......and it breaks my heart to say it.
If this is 'Development' then God have mercy on us.

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Old Dec 30th, 2007, 21:47   #47
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Yep.

Here is one Indian who stopped going to Goa a few years ago, for similar reasons.
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Old Dec 30th, 2007, 22:04   #48
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And here is a German who´s gonna stop it in the future, though I will be there from Feb to March 08. I booked long term in advance and didn´t want to cancel the trip, besides I was there regulary in the past and got used to the place. Unfortunately it seems that Goa is about to ruin deliberately all it once was standing for, hence in 2009 I´d rather see myself in Vietnam or Thailand.
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Old Dec 30th, 2007, 23:57   #49
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And here is a German who´s gonna stop it in the future, though I will be there from Feb to March 08. I booked long term in advance and didn´t want to cancel the trip, besides I was there regulary in the past and got used to the place. Unfortunately it seems that Goa is about to ruin deliberately all it once was standing for, hence in 2009 I´d rather see myself in Vietnam or Thailand.
Hi York Stiller,

Yes this is the common view point of a lot of tourists i have spoken to......i am afraid Goa will have to suffer a bit before it starts to sit up and take stock of the problem......it will always hold a special place in my heart but you can fall out of love every bit as quick as in love with a place. I am starting to feel a bit like a jilted lover who feels let down by his partner and is thinking about ending the relationship.....if you get my meaning.

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Old Dec 31st, 2007, 09:14   #50
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Don't know if I mentioned this before but last year the South Goa Taxi association were trying to force tour operators to put their clients in taxis for day trips. As a result, some operators started to put business North. More than likely, this season, they also redirected clients to other destinations because of this.

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Old Dec 31st, 2007, 11:36   #51
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As one who always says that the contribution of foreign tourists to the Goan economy is overstated, I am sorry that things have come to this pass. Not because of the impact on the Goan economy alone, overstated or not- but because a mess has been made of Goa by successive governments.



On the evidence and the history, unfortunately,I have my doubts.
If you think that the contribution of foreign tourists does not have a major impact on the Goan economy think again,

A report yesterday stated that the tourism/service sector accounted for 50% of the revenue generated.Agriculture and mining 11% and manufacturing 39%.

I konw this includes domestic tourists as well but as Patti said they do not spend their money where it matters.

I was in Colva on Friday and Majorda yesterday the beach was packed with domestic tourists but all the shacks were empty but for a few Russians and Brits.

Speaking to alot of the locals they reckon it has been the worst season for a long time and to be honest next year will be worse because of a number of factors all ready quoted on here.

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jcbrum, thanks but no thanks. I've had this conversation before on indiamike.
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Old Dec 31st, 2007, 13:08   #53
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I konw this includes domestic tourists as well but as Patti said they do not spend their money where it matters.
and where does it matter?

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Old Dec 31st, 2007, 13:27   #54
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Thats a misleading figure JCBrum...total tourism it less than 15% of Goa's GDP and foreign tourism is a minor part of it.
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Thats a misleading figure JCBrum...total tourism it less than 15% of Goa's GDP and foreign tourism is a minor part of it.
Sorry your wrong.The report states that the largest contributor to the states GSDP is mainly tourism accounting for almost 50% of the states revenue.If i find the link i will put it up.

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Sorry your wrong.The report states that the largest contributor to the states GSDP is mainly tourism accounting for almost 50% of the states revenue.If i find the link i will put it up.

John
Well said jcbrum = let those of us who are here in Goa for months on end say it as it is - the locals are really worried about their tourist trade so is the Tourism Minister! but he cannot see what he has done wrong either.

Russians came into a resturant yesterday and brought their own Vodka and just ordered soft drinks!! manners.

The place is extremely busy at the moment but mostly domestic tourists, but not spending money in the resturants and shacks.

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Found an old article from Hindu Business Line. For all of you who are interested in the importance tourism has for Goa, I added the link too.


Looking for a big leap in tourism
Kavish Kamat

DELIGHTED with an annual average growth of over 15 per cent in arrivals of both domestic and foreign tourists, Goa — India's leading global tourist destination — is looking for yet another big leap in the season ahead.
With the State Government's recent announcements of speeding up of work on Mopa international airport in North Goa, a monorail system to connect north and south Goa and the like are expected to automatically lead to branding and repositioning of Goa in the tourism world.
Backed by a "tourism-friendly" Government, Goa has emerged as an important tourism destination in the country following a positive profile in the form of natural scenic beauty, golden and silvery sands, manmade monuments, springs, lakes and waterfalls.
Traditionally, Goa has primarily been in focus for beach tourism.
The profile is sought to be changed. The Deputy Chief Minister, Dr Wilfred D'Souza, holding environment portfolio and tourism portfolio sees a vast potential for developing various other facets of tourism.


http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...1500100200.htm


Mind you, this article is from Aug 15th 2005, but even two and a half years later it´s amazing to read phrases like this: Over a period of time, tourism has emerged as a major economic activity contributing 24.7 per cent to the tertiary sector and 13 per cent to the States GDP.

Nowadays, it seems the big leap forward in tourism has turned into a leap in the dark. Karma? Don´t think so.

Anyway, to all of you A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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Mind you, this article is from Aug 15th 2005, but even two and a half years later it´s amazing to read phrases like this: Over a period of time, tourism has emerged as a major economic activity contributing 24.7 per cent to the tertiary sector and 13 per cent to the States GDP.
So here comes the figure 13 % of the states GDP in 2005, and in couple of years I am sure it has not gone much up from 15%.

And I hope you will consider the ratio of foreign and domestic tourists as well, number of domestic tourists far exceed the number of foreign tourists...and the contribution that foreigners do to the GDP is close to 5 % only. Pure number, simple logic.
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Well said jcbrum = let those of us who are here in Goa for months on end say it as it is - the locals are really worried about their tourist trade so is the Tourism Minister! but he cannot see what he has done wrong either.
Tourists only see the picture that they are in immediate contact with. As a tourist I would be in immediate contact with tourism industry only and would only see their problems.

Its like a tourist Staying in PaharGanj in Delhi and thinking that problems of the local tourism operators are the problems of entire Delhi and Delhi actually depends on tourism to PaharGanj OR Old Delhi.
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And I hope you will consider the ratio of foreign and domestic tourists as well, number of domestic tourists far exceed the number of foreign tourists...and the contribution that foreigners do to the GDP is close to 5 % only. Pure number, simple logic.
shashank, i think it's been made quite clear by these posters that domestic tourists do not matter.
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