Ingos saturday market being closed again !

patti123

Ingo's night market licence to be revoked
Arpora Village Panchayat has decided to revoke the licence granted to Ingo's night market that opened last Saturday. The panchayat decided to revoke the licence issued to Ingo Grill on the grounds that it causes traffic congestion, gives poor opportunity for locals to conduct business and pollutes the area. [H]

Read it here http://www.goacom.com/joel/news/2007/nov/19nov07.htm Try not to read about all the murders ,every day someone is murdered in Goa !
Bet Club cabana will be next .
last one out of Goa switch the light out.Thats if they have electric at the time.

Just heard from a friend that lives in Goa they are wanting to shut down Anjuna market as well .Oh and shut down Mackys market !

York Stiller

And in the end shut down the whole lot Baga Beach? Wow, these guys in charge really know how to make up business and to draw up future plans!

patti123

It doesnt really bother me cause i dont got to any saturday night markets and twice in 7 years to Anjuna is enough for me. But what with the 6 sun beds a shack and no markets,how on earth are the sellers supposed to make any cash ? I know they can be a nuisance but they only want to earn cash to take home to feed their family.99% of the sellers are from out of Goa .
I can see the crime rate going sky high in Goa now.Its already high but they never report it, and if its a goan they never get caught .

York Stiller

Hard allegations you assert here. I do hope without prejudice. And by the way, never ever are 99% of the sellers at Anjuna fleamarket from Goa. Many of them are from Tibet, Nepal or Indian states like Tamil Nadu or Uttar Pradesh. Ask the locals and you´ll get the information you need.

shashank.aggarwal

Not again !! I guess every decision taken in Goa is criticized by so called well wishing tourists these days !! They feel they know the best....

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patti123

I did say this "99% of the sellers are from out of Goa "
I spent 8 months in Goa and you see and hear things that you would never see in 2 weeks there.
I love Goa but i know who not to trust and who should be in Jail .

York Stiller

@patti123 - I overread the term "out of Goa", sorry for that.

@shashank.aggarwal - Yes again! It´s called freedom of speech and is one of the reasons people joined this forum.

shashank.aggarwal

'Freedom of speech' - its a very nice statement, however when someone does'nt even have an Idea what he/she is talking about, then what would you say ??

patti123

Shashank.aggarwal So the decision to shut all the markets and only have 6 sunbeds a shack is a good idea !
I know they had to do something about the sunbeds as there was far to many of them.But the markets !
They dont want the foreign tourists there but they wont get the domestic tourists there either.
Next bright idea will be a curfew at 10pm .

shashank.aggarwal

Who doesn't want the foreign tourist in ? you need to understand where all these decisions are coming from !! Some come from Judiciary, some come from State, however this one is coming from Panchayat, which is a very very local body...any administrative body cannot get more local than that !! It is headed my people who are considered to be wise from the local society itself and decision is taken as per the popular choice.

We must not look at each and everything from point of tourism, for that we need to come out of our believe that Goa survives on tourism OR for that matter foreign tourism is a major source of income for Goa. It simply is not correct. Goa has its own life which needs to be led the way the entire country lives.

When I say some tourists who believe that they know it all, I want to question that why did no tourist come forward and show concern when my neighborhood colony was bulldozed by local municipality ? Or when the local primary school was converted into a park ? there are thousands of such things that happen around the country, however they do not evoke a bit of interest of foreigners, its for the simple reason that it does'nt impact the tourist, so when such issues are raised about Goa, it simply shows that people are not interested in welfare of the state, however they are concerned because it impacts them...

patti123

I am very concerned what happens in Goa .I dont like all the building work going on and ruining Goa.I have not bought a apartment there, i could have done years ago but decided to rent instead.
The Goans dont like whats happening to Goa either but a lot of the land in Goa belongs to Bombay people, who are selling the land off. A lot of the Goans i know, own their houses but not the land that the house is sitting on.
I think every one is interested to see how Goa turns out in a few years.
I read the Goan newspaper every day while i am in the UK and am very interested in whats happening in Goa. I read about the water shortages for the locals, another village didnt have any electric for weeks.
I would have hated to be born in Goa and 30years down the road its turned into this . But on the other hand a village near me has been ruined by hundreds of houses being built , so its all over the world .
I have been in goa and read some awful news about what has happened to sons and daughters and cried. Its a tough life in Goa .

the opoponax

I think what Shashank is saying here (if I may...) is that the interests of tourists are often different from the interests of the locals. It's not that you don't know the area well, just that you don't live there full time and as a tourist your perspective will always be different.

The local panchyat is the most local form of government in the area, and in terms of what should go on in their town (village? neighborhood?), it's up to them. And their responsibility is to themselves, not the tourists.

There is a point where the lines have to be drawn, and local interests need to come ahead of tourism, or daily life for the locals becomes impossible. Which is what's happening in my hometown of New Orleans, as business initiatives to rebuild the tourist infrastructure after Hurricane Katrina are favored over reinstating services for permanent residents. From where I see it, New Orleans will probably become Disney World or a Club Med destination before it becomes a place I can ever go home to again. So I can understand Goans' worries about overdevelopment.

patti123

I know what a Panchyat is , One of my friends used to be one. i do understand what shashank.aggarwal is saying but not all tourists go to Goa and do things they shouldnt do, some do care what is happening in Goa. I care that the shack owners who are goans and the sellers, oh and the fruit sellers on the beach are not going to make mush cash because of the too strict laws that are being laid down.
I love to know what income Goa will get if all the tourists go some where else . Theres no fish in the sea , i know they have iron ore but last i read was that that was going down in price.
Thanks the opoponax for your thread and of course shashank.aggarwal amkes a good discussion.

shashank.aggarwal

I appreciate your concern patti, but rest assured you need not wory about "what will happen to Goa if there are no tourists?". Foreign Tourists contribute a very minuscule amount of Goa's income. It has fledging industry, and is coming about out a big time manufacturing hub.

I agree that not all the tourists are doing things that they shouldn't do..however how do you plan to check on that in an effective way without proper rules and regulations ?

Regarding Goan sellers and shack owners, it doesn't matter if they are Goans or not, please understand this is nature of India, over here you cannot differentiate between people of different states. If it is done then it is largely frowned upon. You have to see how many Marathis are there in Mumbai ? Or how many Kannadigas (spelling?) are employed in IT industry of Bangalore ? Or how many Hyderabadis work in high rises in Hyderabad ? And don't even talk about Delhi, I believe that this is the city with no natives at all, everyone has come from someplace else, some years ago, some decades ago or some centuries ago. My own family migrated from Rajasthan to Delhi more that a century or six generations back.

anonymous

There were no sunbeds, no night markets, no nightclubs, no "where's the party?" people, no techno, no holidaymakers and the beach peddlers they attract. It would be great news if all of that would disappear.