How to expose Corruption and Bribery ?

Nick-H

Mach, there is such a rule, although I think it is 182 days, and there are visas that would allow one to stay that long. Just not tourist visas.

Errr.... you know which two threads to read

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patti123

Big problem with Goa is you think you have done every thing legaley , and then they change the rules !

capt_mahajan

No, they don't.

They start enforcing them.

Dellon

Thanks Nick

Sticking to the original question I know is sometimes difficult to do and it creates pages of repetitive stuff. As we have developed a one-minute culture those looking for information on the original subject switch off. Ive read reams of pages on 'those two threads'

I'm on the next phase of trying to protect my interests against those corrupt bar-stewards who continue to dupe potential buyers!

So! More info on anti-corruption crusaders please.

Nick-H

I think one of the most effective things you can do to protect others is to make publicity.

You might have noticed, from those reams of posts, how many people have realised some more truth about the situation. Same with other sites too.

Some of them were hard to convince: I doubt very much that we'll never see another Well I talked to an agent this morning and he assured me his scheme is all perfectly legal and safe post. But the more real information is available to people, the longer it is between such posts.

dzibead

Thank you.

patti123

capt_mahajan , your partly right , but they do keep moving the goal posts . You never keep up with it all.
One year they were hot on International driving licenses< they still are >Then to get cash off you, they decided we all could only drive scooters if we had a Indian driving license ! You never get one of them.
Someone emailed the AA in the uk and printed out the reply and law thats says a International driving license is valid in India.They then backed down on that .

Nick-H

They do change the rules from time to time. As the Captain commented, FERA has been replaced with a new act, FEMA --- which is considerably more lenient than the earlier act !

But that takes acts of government. Policy is much more flexible. Policy can be changed at the drop of a hat.

Dellon

Here in the link below is a good indication what I'm up against, but still does'nt alter the fact that you have to make a stance.

Your comments please!

http://osdir.com/ml/culture.region.i.../msg00163.html

Nick-H

In my two or three years here, quite a large sum of money has gone into the pockets of public servants.

Years back, someone commented that in other countries one pays bribes to get away with things, to have stuff overlooked, whereas in India, the citizen is expected to pay bribes to get what he is entitled to anyway.

I know people who, as a matter of principle, refuse to pay any bribe whatsoever; I also know officials and retired officials who would never have asked or accepted.

It is tough to be that kind of person: a mistake on the roads could have cost me time in a police station, time in court, probably a larger fine. We gave the policeman Rs.100. We were just as guilty as he was to settle the matter in this mutually convenient fashion.

However you had registered you house purchase, it is likely that it would not have been done, or would have become a protracted and difficult business, without bribes having been paid. Our house belongs, with not a shred of 'foreign ownership' difficulty to my Indian-citizen wife; the deal did not involve any black money or undeclared payment or undervaluation for stamp duty --- and the registrar was firmly told this when given about 1/3 what he asked for. We still had to pay something, and it was not a small amount. The Rs100 here and there to the office staff that run around filling and checking and entering and stamping, we didn't even think of as bribes --- but I suppose they were.

Its easy to be indignant about all this --- but if asked to cast that first stone, there are very many of us that would have to sheepishly drop it back on the ground.

I think there are government departments in which headway is being made and corruption is being prevented. But it is endemic: it will last a long time yet.

Dilliwala

Good on u, Dellon, if u don't want to back down. I'm certainly not going to tell u to, espesh as it seems u know what u are up against.
Re the property deed: Don't go to the cops just yet. First u need to find yourself a good lawyer who specialises in property/registration, etc. - they do exist, even in Goa I'll bet. Ask your local friends. Give the lawyer all the info and docs u have and let him check them out thoroughly. U may have unknowingly broken some laws but don't worry about those just yet. Fact is u were defrauded/duped, and that's a crime. As and when u know the exact legal implications of the fraud (and your infringements, if any), then u can discuss with your lawyer about how to prosecute the guy. A case in court might even pressurise him enough to settle out of court, i.e. give u your money back, as optimistic as this may sound. If he does, drop the legal case, it really won't be worth fighting it out over years just to nail him. But that's your decision. And filing a police complaint u shud do only after consultation with a lawyer.
If he (the crim) has powerful friends, the case will probably not scare him, but only then shud u think of going to the media. U know probably by now they aren't any different here than elsewhere - once u are no longer "news", they'll drop u, and if u don't have redressal by then, your opponent will have another reason to be p.ssed off at u. U won't need that in the long run.

Re the tax fraud: Here's the address of the nearest Income Tax Office in Goa. Send all the dope on the guy directly to the Chief Commissioner. ITO will keep the info confidential, but your opponent cud probably guess it's u who informed them. So tread cautiously.
There's also these guys, but I'm not clear on whether they wud have a role in this particular case. U cud send them a copy anyway, if they have no role, they can work out who else might and will forward it to the concerned dept/s.
All the best.

patti123

http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=10244

Read this Dellon. a American woman is taking Goans to court in Candolim/Calangute If you put the womans name into Google more info comes up .

Dellon

Thanks Dilliwala & Patti

Some great information there to look into. I am looking to get all my ducks in a row before I start the long process of taking on this crook. For me diplomacy is my first course of action to see whether I can be re-imbursed with no questions asked, probably most unlikely but its something that I need to do.

You talk of media exposure but some of the newspapers are corrupt themselves according to the link below.

http://penpricks.blogspot.com/2007/0...-techgoss.html

Has anyone had any good publicity by the media?

York Stiller

The article doesn´t say anything about her reasons and interest motives. And because she suppressed the fact that she´s an American citizen to the court it was submitted that the petitioner is herself facing complaints of CRZ violations. Sounds strange to me.

Nick-H

It is alleged that She didn't think it relevant to shout about it? She thought her accent made it so obvious as to be hardly worth thinking about? She thought that rule of law was available to all regardless of nationality?

We don't know: but it sounds like a slur to me.