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Old May 1st, 2005, 17:59   #1
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My dear Brother Anthony Tunnicliffe (31) - passed away in suspicious circumstances in Goa, he was staying at the Renton Manor - Arpora..
He was found in the hotel room by his 2 friends. The same night my Brother passed away 17th Nov 2003 - he was in Tito's/mambos, that was the last place the 2 friends saw him
we are not quite sure if went somewhere else after - maybe to the Capricorn club - does anyone know of this place? - what happens there and in titos??
My Brothers friends said that a prostitute was asking about him in Titos/mambos - does anyone know of someone calld Stuart, either from Titos or Capricorn Club/Bar
Has anyone heard of spiking drinks in Goa?
Plesae does anyone know anything - my Brother was not a druggie, he was a diamond fella - supposed to be having a fun 2 wk holiday in Goa
No one at the Renton Manor knows anything, they did do forensics tests but we are still waiting a year and a half later- my Brother had 2 autopsies 1 in the Goan Medical; College and 1 at home in London, both were inconclusive, No CAUSE OF DEATH, me and my parents have no closure to the devastating loss of my beautiful Brother
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Old May 1st, 2005, 20:23   #2
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I am so sorry

Meltee:

I am so sorry to hear of the tragic circumstances with your brother. Your family must be devasted by all of this. While I do not know Goa or any of the places you mention, I want to extend my sympathies to you and your family. I trust you will receive the assistance you are looking for.
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Old May 1st, 2005, 20:27   #3
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Lady, sorry to know of the loss.
Not knowing what info exactly are you looking for, you/someone will have to visit that place, work a lot with the local police etc... for any info whatsoever.
Considering its been over a year, you'll have to stay for at least a few months and take lots of help from the locals.

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Hi Meltee
I am truly sorry to hear about your loss.
I have been visiting goa since the early 70's as a kid and know Tito's very well even before it was a nightclub. It used to be a really nice restaurant with excellent service until the two brothers David and Ricky took over. The parents were very decent folks but I cannot say the same for the brothers whom I have known as kids.
There have been numerous problems in Calangute over the years involving tourists including murders. They are very well covered up by the local police who are very very corrupt. I recommend that if you really want closure you will need to hire a private detective from the Uk and have him go over and dig up some info. the Goan authorities will not help you as they are all easily bribed.

I have no idea why people like Tito's. These days it is full of hard up Indian guys from who are there to get laid. There are often some pretty nasty brawls outside Tito's after the place closes.

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Old May 2nd, 2005, 05:12   #5
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My dear Brother Anthony Tunnicliffe (31) - passed away in suspicious circumstances in Goa, he was staying at the Renton Manor - Arpora..
He was found in the hotel room by his 2 friends. The same night my Brother passed away 17th Nov 2003 - he was in Tito's/mambos, that was the last place the 2 friends saw him
we are not quite sure if went somewhere else after - maybe to the Capricorn club - does anyone know of this place? - what happens there and in titos??

Meltee, as far as I know the Capricorn is an Italian restaurant in Calangute. I had dinner at this restaurant in early March and I did not observe any attached club/lounge.
Tito's is definitely a place to be avoided these days. It has become too commercialised and has started catering to the Mumbai and Delhi crowd who come to offload large amounts of black money(tax evasion). European prostitutes have also started plying their trade at this joint.
Hiring of a private detective would be recommended as well as working in close conjunction with a reliable police official. You would of course have to spend a certain amount of money but it would be money well spent if you want your peace of mind.

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Old May 3rd, 2005, 05:43   #6
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>> Has anyone heard of spiking drinks in Goa? <<



I have never heard of such things happening in Goa although they happen a lot in Canada but it is possible that there have been such cases in Goa which have been hushed up by the pub owner and a compliant police. Is this guy called Stuart that you mentioned a Britisher or is he a Goan?
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Old May 3rd, 2005, 05:55   #7
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If you are planning to hire a PI, somehow I think an Indian one would be more effective navigating the amongst the locals and beuracracy.

Have there been other cases like this? If this was planned operation, then I suspect they should. It may help to investigate some of the other cases which may have more clues.

The fact that the autopsy does not reveal the the cause of death is really strange. DO keep us posted..
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Hi Meltee,

Let me add my condolences to the others.

I was in north Goa that winter but do not recall reading of your brother's death or hearing it discussed. There were an unusually high number of tourist deaths in November and December that year and most did seem to be drug related although the reports in the local newspapers were rather scanty. There was no follow-up with published autopsies revealing the actual causes of death, but in several cases there was indication the deceased did not die immediately and that impure 'party drugs' or pharmaceuticals(that are widely distributed illegally) were assumed to be the cause.

Unfortunately people on vacation sometimes do some stupid things, totally out of character, and bad things can happen. Let me pass on a story from Goa this past winter (not that I am drawing parallels). An English girl was partying with friends at a Calengute bar around closing time. The friends went home and she left with a local lad (nicknamed 'gigolo') to go to a place that he said was still open. As it was actually closed, they went back to his home and apparently did some drugs (the newspapers didn't mention what kind) and he claims that he found her dead after returning to the room after a bathroom break. He then called a couple of his friends to help him dispose of the body which they loaded into his Maruti van and took to a deserted spot near Anjuna and dumped it. People remembered who she had left the bar with and so he was caught and the story reported.

Your brother could have been the victim of a robbery attempt involving a woman accomplice and a laced drink that went very wrong -- I think it will be very difficult to find out much at this point. If this were the case, it is possible the perps could very well have been protected. In Goa, the only murder cases that get properly investigated, or re-opened, are ones where political pressure is applied and this is mainly for locals. Foreign governments do not generally take much interest, or apply any pressure, in cases involving their nationals where drugs are presumed to be involved. At least that is my observation from spending a lot of time in Goa, reading the papers, and talking with my Goan friends.

My only suggestion would be to continue following up on the autopsy and do keep British consular officers informed and involved.

Again, my sympathies for your loss.

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Old May 3rd, 2005, 07:21   #9
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An English girl was partying with friends at a Calengute bar around closing time. The friends went home and she left with a local lad (nicknamed 'gigolo') to go to a place that he said was still open. As it was actually closed, they went back to his home and apparently did some drugs (the newspapers didn't mention what kind) and he claims that he found her dead after returning to the room after a bathroom break. He then called a couple of his friends to help him dispose of the body which they loaded into his Maruti van and took to a deserted spot near Anjuna and dumped it. People remembered who she had left the bar with and so he was caught and the story reported.


This particular "local lad" had quite a notorious reputation in the Calangute-Baga area. He was known to prey on single tourists and rob them. One case where a foreign government has applied pressure for a full blown investigation is in the recent death of the Croatian DJ whose body was washed ashore. This Croatian youngster happened to be the son of the speaker of the Croatian parliament and the Croatian government has sent its own team to investigate this case.
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Old May 4th, 2005, 02:11   #10
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You are wrong

Please get your facts right before you post. They were not in a bar in Calangute - she was in a night club with other friends and they went on to another club and she was to join them later but never arrived.
I will look in my diary and post later.
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Charlotte: the details were off the top of my head from a newspaper article I read months ago and I don't think are terribly important whether it was a club or a bar or whether it was Calengute or Baga or what time they left; I don't file these stories away, but I believe that the essence of the story was important so mentioned it in my reply.

The poster is looking for information regarding her deceased brother so I think she would be more interested in anything you could add in that regard, rather than some details of an incidental story from 2005.
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As a forum leader CALANGUTE is the correct spelling of this area of Goa
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Old May 5th, 2005, 06:51   #13
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whats with all the aggro today?
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Old May 5th, 2005, 06:55   #14
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off the top of my head

"Off the top of my head is" not the quite answer to my reply.
The lady who started this thread was asking about her brother and it would have made a differece whether it was a club, bar, hotel etc - this would have made a difference to her in her enquiries.


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An English girl was partying with friends at a Calengute bar around closing time. The friends went home and she left with a local lad (nicknamed 'gigolo') to go to a place that he said was still open. As it was actually closed, they went back to his home and apparently did some drugs (the newspapers didn't mention what kind) and he claims that he found her dead after returning to the room after a bathroom break. He then called a couple of his friends to help him dispose of the body which they loaded into his Maruti van and took to a deserted spot near Anjuna and dumped it. People remembered who she had left the bar with and so he was caught and the story reported.


Why add this ??
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Old May 5th, 2005, 07:38   #15
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The OP has not come forward with any further responses. There is a Goan journalist who is a member of this forum and I am sure he could provide some assistance?
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