Freedom of Press in India or lack of rather!

luca · Oct 19th, 2006, 15:31

TV stings: SC to examine motive

It says it all- It's not in the interest of the courts or the government to have a free press. Pretty hard odds if the press ever won this battle! Seems to the neutral observer that it's well and truly stitched up even before the games begin!

batistuta · Oct 19th, 2006, 15:43

THese days the SC here is giving bold verdicts and i hope the trend continues and Sc allows a free press in India.
I am not sure why SC is checking the motive ,but am guessing this may have something to do with a couple of stings where girls are used as a part of the deal.(

luca · Oct 19th, 2006, 16:57

The Indian press has to be one of the bravest under the circumstances it operates. For the supreme court, it is easy to 'give out bold verdicts' as there is no one to challenge their verdicts( a bit like the story where the emperor had no clothes and yet everybody applauded his fine sense of dress taste). How could you explain restrictions as freedom otherwise?? This is the perverse logic of some in the Indian upper class. Also the statement made by the supreme court does not make a comment about girls being used- it says that they are going to check and see if there was any financial gain to be made by the news channels? Maybe they want a cut of that too!!

ksgangadharan · Oct 19th, 2006, 17:38

There can be two sides to these sting operations. Sting operations had been a medium in the past for the press to gain more TPRs.

If you show the bacon to the dog, it will follow you -- now would you accuse the dog of following the bribe or would you accuse yourself for showing the bacon?

In short I do think its not always public service thats intended in these sting operations.

Paagla Dashu · Oct 19th, 2006, 17:47

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Originally Posted by luca

............................Al so the statement made by the supreme court does not make a comment about girls being used- it says that they are going to check and see if there was any financial gain to be made by the news channels? Maybe they want a cut of that too!!

There is such a thing called "Contempt of the Court". It's fine to criticise but it's rash to insult the judiciary of a sovereign nation.

The Indian Media is far more independent and bias-free than some of the ëmbedded journalism" that's par for the course in some parts of the world.

The Supreme Court is concerned because some of the recent "Sting Operations"have been proven to be fabricated.

batistuta · Oct 19th, 2006, 17:50

There was no link to the article about the sc checking the motives and i just guessed albeit incorrectly that it was regarding the sting operations where girls were also supplied as there was a huge furore at that point of time regarding the moral credentials of the journalistic fraternity.
It was a bit cynical to say that sc needs a cut in that deal too but you meant it as a joke i guess.
It would be nice if you can post the link to this article .

mk26in · Oct 19th, 2006, 17:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksgangadharan

There can be two sides to these sting operations. Sting operations had been a medium in the past for the press to gain more TPRs.

If you show the bacon to the dog, it will follow you -- now would you accuse the dog of following the bribe or would you accuse yourself for showing the bacon?

In short I do think its not always public service thats intended in these sting operations.

Quite right. There's bad aspect of sting operations, which SC has pointed out.

SC has questioned the motive behind such sting operations. One motive is TPR of Channels and other could be money

, yes simple blackmailing. Sting operations are on air after lapse of some weeks or sometimes months, what could be done (negotiations ??) in this time period is
very easy to guess.

Mk

batistuta · Oct 19th, 2006, 18:01

One of these sting operations was to unearth the supremely imporant fact whether a casting couch existed in Bollywood .It would interest only a movie buff . Most of these channels have thier own political views which is fine .But the question of motive arises when they attack the political leaders from the parties which the news channels oppose and whether other political parties where involved in sting up the sting operations .All are equally corrrupt in the public's eyes but conduct a sting operation against all parties irrespective of the channels political ideologies.

luca · Oct 19th, 2006, 18:29

It was a bit cynical to say that sc needs a cut in that deal too but you meant it as a joke i guess.
It would be nice if you can post the link to this article .[/quote]

That was a joke. See- Thats what I love about Indian people- you have the same sense of humor as the West (unlike the Pakistanis who think we are all out to demonise them) However, India could well benefit from its people (and news channels) pushing and setting new boundaries for an ever evolving yet ancient civilisations. India- possibly- is the future conscience of this world. Do not let a few dictators or dictatorial decisions deviate you from the path.

luca · Oct 19th, 2006, 18:32

Sorry, but need to add- The reason you have such a noisy democracy is the reason you will be far ahead of China in the global stakes. Give it time and India will be at the forefront of a new civilisation based on the power of knowledge. So let there be news channels with their own viewpoints and agendas, and also newspapers and also people

Nick-H · Oct 19th, 2006, 18:48

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India- possibly- is the future conscience of this world.

We might as well give up now then

Democracy? This is just a small part of the 'democracy' that was happening on ky doorstep last week. many people arrived at polling stations to find their votes already cast, many people voted as paid. Many government staff on polling station duty found it so traumatic they said they would never do it again

luca · Oct 19th, 2006, 20:07

Well- corruption does exist. however, if it was all corrupt- you would never have seen a change in government ever-plain logic!!. Sceptics need to look at the overall results and not make the mistake of individual area assesment.

PortieOwner · Oct 19th, 2006, 20:41

India could certainly use more freedom in publishing.

Portie

seraph · Oct 19th, 2006, 21:21

I read recently that some bloggers have been banned in India by the government. Here is a link that I found.

click HERE.

This blogger claims it has to do with the Mumbai terrorist attack. (HERE)

Does anyone know anything about this?

Nick-H · Oct 19th, 2006, 22:03

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Originally Posted by seraph

I read recently that some bloggers have been banned in India by the government.

It happened. It was clumsy, blunt, not properly targeted and (wonder of wonders) it got unhappened again...

Oct 19th, 2006, 15:31	#1
luca Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: uk Posts: 52	Freedom of Press in India or lack of rather! TV stings: SC to examine motive It says it all- It's not in the interest of the courts or the government to have a free press. Pretty hard odds if the press ever won this battle! Seems to the neutral observer that it's well and truly stitched up even before the games begin!

Oct 19th, 2006, 21:21	#14
seraph Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vaikuntha Dham Posts: 443	Blogs Banned I read recently that some bloggers have been banned in India by the government. Here is a link that I found. click HERE. This blogger claims it has to do with the Mumbai terrorist attack. (HERE) Does anyone know anything about this?

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Oct 19th, 2006, 15:43	#2
batistuta Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,729	THese days the SC here is giving bold verdicts and i hope the trend continues and Sc allows a free press in India. I am not sure why SC is checking the motive ,but am guessing this may have something to do with a couple of stings where girls are used as a part of the deal.(

Oct 19th, 2006, 16:57	#3
luca Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: uk Posts: 52	The Indian press has to be one of the bravest under the circumstances it operates. For the supreme court, it is easy to 'give out bold verdicts' as there is no one to challenge their verdicts( a bit like the story where the emperor had no clothes and yet everybody applauded his fine sense of dress taste). How could you explain restrictions as freedom otherwise?? This is the perverse logic of some in the Indian upper class. Also the statement made by the supreme court does not make a comment about girls being used- it says that they are going to check and see if there was any financial gain to be made by the news channels? Maybe they want a cut of that too!!

Oct 19th, 2006, 17:38	#4
ksgangadharan Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 5	There can be two sides to these sting operations. Sting operations had been a medium in the past for the press to gain more TPRs. If you show the bacon to the dog, it will follow you -- now would you accuse the dog of following the bribe or would you accuse yourself for showing the bacon? In short I do think its not always public service thats intended in these sting operations.

Oct 19th, 2006, 17:50	#6
batistuta Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,729	There was no link to the article about the sc checking the motives and i just guessed albeit incorrectly that it was regarding the sting operations where girls were also supplied as there was a huge furore at that point of time regarding the moral credentials of the journalistic fraternity. It was a bit cynical to say that sc needs a cut in that deal too but you meant it as a joke i guess. It would be nice if you can post the link to this article .

Oct 19th, 2006, 18:01	#8
batistuta Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,729	One of these sting operations was to unearth the supremely imporant fact whether a casting couch existed in Bollywood .It would interest only a movie buff . Most of these channels have thier own political views which is fine .But the question of motive arises when they attack the political leaders from the parties which the news channels oppose and whether other political parties where involved in sting up the sting operations .All are equally corrrupt in the public's eyes but conduct a sting operation against all parties irrespective of the channels political ideologies.

Oct 19th, 2006, 18:29	#9
luca Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: uk Posts: 52	It was a bit cynical to say that sc needs a cut in that deal too but you meant it as a joke i guess. It would be nice if you can post the link to this article .[/quote] That was a joke. See- Thats what I love about Indian people- you have the same sense of humor as the West (unlike the Pakistanis who think we are all out to demonise them) However, India could well benefit from its people (and news channels) pushing and setting new boundaries for an ever evolving yet ancient civilisations. India- possibly- is the future conscience of this world. Do not let a few dictators or dictatorial decisions deviate you from the path.

Oct 19th, 2006, 18:32	#10
luca Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: uk Posts: 52	Sorry, but need to add- The reason you have such a noisy democracy is the reason you will be far ahead of China in the global stakes. Give it time and India will be at the forefront of a new civilisation based on the power of knowledge. So let there be news channels with their own viewpoints and agendas, and also newspapers and also people

Oct 19th, 2006, 20:07	#12
luca Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: uk Posts: 52	Well- corruption does exist. however, if it was all corrupt- you would never have seen a change in government ever-plain logic!!. Sceptics need to look at the overall results and not make the mistake of individual area assesment.

Oct 19th, 2006, 20:41	#13
PortieOwner Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 351	India could certainly use more freedom in publishing. Portie

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