English Rose Bar- candolim

goagirlwannabee · Nov 12th, 2006, 01:00

Hi there,
I have just visited this bar and I feel that the rest of you should know a couple of things about this place.
I am staying an Candolim and I asked my guesthouse for a quite place for me to go for something to eat and have a drink - as I am on my own I am quite nervious and they suggested the english rose.
I went there last Thursday and it was great so I went there again last night.

Please be aware that owners rip people off by putting extra orders on your bill.
As I had a 3 drinks I thought that I wouldnt notice an extra 300rupies on my bill!!!

So Beware!!!!

Has anyone else been to this place??

lez · Nov 12th, 2006, 14:01

the Spice Garden is the same and the food is C**p, they also charge double the price of most places, Rs60 for a kings

ananda2193 · Nov 12th, 2006, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by lez

Rs60 for a kings

GoanCanuck · Nov 14th, 2006, 17:11

Yeah it is a shitty bar.

crvlvr · Dec 12th, 2006, 05:17

somehow it seems to be a popular place with the foreign tourists. And, doesn't close early too? People just seem to meet up at the Rose Bar (unless I am confusing it with some other place) to figure out where the parties are, and then head on out.

machadinha · Dec 12th, 2006, 05:36

I thought checking what you're ordering + checking what the price is + keeping track of it + checking what the final bill is + checking if you get the right amount of change back + some haggling about change being available or not + a little arguing throughout the whole process is pretty much a part of the India experience anyway (don't forget the tip if the whole affair was reasonably pleasurable).

Does this really mean it is a bad pub?

crvlvr · Dec 12th, 2006, 06:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by machadinha

Does this really mean it is a bad pub?

errors occur as a normal course of business. But, may be it happens more often at the Rose Bar? Unless we get other members confirm this, goagirl's experience could just be an isolated incident. But, as they say -- better safe than sorry. Everyone should follow Machadinha's formula.

ananda2193 · Dec 12th, 2006, 19:41

When I was in Bundi in 1998, I went to restaurant with some Europeans.It was a restaurant that I never saw people in and had no menu. I asked the price before of my meal. The Europeans ordered a Thali and didn't ask the price. When the bill came the owner was charging them 100 apiece.

An outrageous price for a 15-20 rupee thali. They argued and argued to no avail. And ended up paying the 100!
I remember the owner saying to me that I asked the price and they didn't, so it's their fault.
NEVER ORDER ANYTHING WITHOUT KNOWING THE PRICE FIRST!

Jamie11 · Dec 12th, 2006, 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by ananda2193

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NEVER ORDER ANYTHING WITHOUT KNOWING THE PRICE FIRST!

I agree 100%, a good tip for first timers.

this was the first lesson I was taught on my first visit there.

Sarah123 · Dec 14th, 2006, 17:41

Hi
I went to the english rose about 3 weeks ago - I thought it was a very friendly place with cool staff.
but I agree with goagirl - i got my bill, and there was sone additional items on it

I asked the owner (She was english ) and asked what has happened.
I know this kind of think happends all the time all over the world but this happening to 2 girls in 1 month? - a bit strange I think

machadinha · Dec 15th, 2006, 08:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah123

I know this kind of think happends all the time all over the world but this happening to 2 girls in 1 month? - a bit strange I think

I suspect it happens to 300 customers a day or whatever they get. If you don't like it, visit another place -- but I'm still not convinced it's an evil place for that reason. But then what do I know about Goa -- absolutely nothing to be precise.

Quote:

I asked the owner (She was english ) and asked what has happened.

So what was the answer and did you sort it out with a minimum of fuss?

Sarah123 · Dec 15th, 2006, 17:08

No after about 15minutes she still insisted that the bill was correct - I really wasnt happy but I felt to get out of that place I paid the bill even though it wasnt right.
It was 200 ruppees over - I really hate complaining and I know I am a bit of a soft touch when it comes to this kind of thing.
Not going there again!

goagirlwannabee · Dec 15th, 2006, 17:41

Hi
I do agree with machadinha in keeping track on what you are spending and I agree that haggeling is a part of the experience but when extra items appear on you bill??
Thats is what I have the problem with.
I love haggeling in markets etc, you really do get to know people that way but when you get a menu with prices beside each item and when extra stuff is added - not very nice.

But it all apart of the learing experience!

Nov 12th, 2006, 01:00	#1
goagirlwannabee Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: uk Posts: 124	English Rose Bar- candolim Hi there, I have just visited this bar and I feel that the rest of you should know a couple of things about this place. I am staying an Candolim and I asked my guesthouse for a quite place for me to go for something to eat and have a drink - as I am on my own I am quite nervious and they suggested the english rose. I went there last Thursday and it was great so I went there again last night. Please be aware that owners rip people off by putting extra orders on your bill. As I had a 3 drinks I thought that I wouldnt notice an extra 300rupies on my bill!!! So Beware!!!! Has anyone else been to this place??

Dec 12th, 2006, 05:36	#6
machadinha Not Your Guru Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: yörp Posts: 11,445	I thought checking what you're ordering + checking what the price is + keeping track of it + checking what the final bill is + checking if you get the right amount of change back + some haggling about change being available or not + a little arguing throughout the whole process is pretty much a part of the India experience anyway (don't forget the tip if the whole affair was reasonably pleasurable). Does this really mean it is a bad pub? __________________ Reading tips, all picked up at IndiaMike : INDAX's A Comprehensive Guide To India / Dinoj Surendran's Desi Humor / ITHVC on Culture Shock & Travel Health / JetLag Travel Guides For the Undiscerning Traveller / India Travel Links Last edited by machadinha : Dec 13th, 2006 at 01:28.

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Nov 12th, 2006, 14:01	#2
lez Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: GOA Posts: 335	the Spice Garden is the same and the food is C**p, they also charge double the price of most places, Rs60 for a kings

Nov 14th, 2006, 17:11	#4
GoanCanuck Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,204	Yeah it is a shitty bar.

Dec 12th, 2006, 05:17	#5
crvlvr Guru Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: On the move in India.. Posts: 4,535	somehow it seems to be a popular place with the foreign tourists. And, doesn't close early too? People just seem to meet up at the Rose Bar (unless I am confusing it with some other place) to figure out where the parties are, and then head on out.

Dec 12th, 2006, 19:41	#8
ananda2193 Maha Guru Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: you essay Posts: 1,616	When I was in Bundi in 1998, I went to restaurant with some Europeans.It was a restaurant that I never saw people in and had no menu. I asked the price before of my meal. The Europeans ordered a Thali and didn't ask the price. When the bill came the owner was charging them 100 apiece. An outrageous price for a 15-20 rupee thali. They argued and argued to no avail. And ended up paying the 100! I remember the owner saying to me that I asked the price and they didn't, so it's their fault. NEVER ORDER ANYTHING WITHOUT KNOWING THE PRICE FIRST!

Dec 14th, 2006, 17:41	#10
Sarah123 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: london Posts: 20	Hi I went to the english rose about 3 weeks ago - I thought it was a very friendly place with cool staff. but I agree with goagirl - i got my bill, and there was sone additional items on it I asked the owner (She was english ) and asked what has happened. I know this kind of think happends all the time all over the world but this happening to 2 girls in 1 month? - a bit strange I think

Dec 15th, 2006, 17:08	#12
Sarah123 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: london Posts: 20	No after about 15minutes she still insisted that the bill was correct - I really wasnt happy but I felt to get out of that place I paid the bill even though it wasnt right. It was 200 ruppees over - I really hate complaining and I know I am a bit of a soft touch when it comes to this kind of thing. Not going there again!

Dec 15th, 2006, 17:41	#13
goagirlwannabee Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: uk Posts: 124	Hi I do agree with machadinha in keeping track on what you are spending and I agree that haggeling is a part of the experience but when extra items appear on you bill?? Thats is what I have the problem with. I love haggeling in markets etc, you really do get to know people that way but when you get a menu with prices beside each item and when extra stuff is added - not very nice. But it all apart of the learing experience!

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