British Media on Goa

baz · Mar 18th, 2008, 05:41

Sadly, there is plenty of it Glasgow, it tends to be in a lot of outlying areas, not city centre - too heavily policed and lots of CCTV.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/ap...me.lornamartin
By Lorna Martin Guardian.

the opoponax · Mar 18th, 2008, 06:16

Why taxis? Wouldn't it be cheaper for the dealers to just buy cars or scooters or something? Maybe they could take the bus...

The 'delivery service' is pretty typical in the USA. Even out in rural areas. In the town where I grew up, it was easier to get weed delivered than a pizza. Though I realize by 'hard drugs' you probably weren't talking about that.

baz · Mar 18th, 2008, 06:31

Buying a car and driving would mean staying straight. A taxi means someone else is driving and the dealers can indulge...
weed is old hat here now opoponax.

the opoponax · Mar 18th, 2008, 06:55

Quote:

Buying a car and driving would mean staying straight. A taxi means someone else is driving and the dealers can indulge...

Wow, that's so sensible and European of you guys.

I'm pretty sure that most American drug-deliverers just drive wasted out of their minds. I mean, you're already a drug dealer. You don't exactly care if you get pulled over for speeding...

PeakXV · Mar 18th, 2008, 07:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by the opoponax

Wow, that's so sensible and European of you guys.

I'm pretty sure that most American drug-deliverers just drive wasted out of their minds. I mean, you're already a drug dealer. You don't exactly care if you get pulled over for speeding...

That's how most Dealers get caught in my neck of the woods. Bamboozle everybody with their stealth drug-dealings/pushing skills and then get pulled over on a minor traffic violation or misdemeanour with a not-so-well-hidden stash in their glove compartment.

ananda2193 · Mar 18th, 2008, 07:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeakXV

That's how most Dealers get caught in my neck of the woods. Bamboozle everybody with their stealth drug-dealings/pushing skills and then get pulled over on a minor traffic violation or misdemeanour with a not-so-well-hidden stash in their glove compartment.

So true. I read that kind of stuff all the time in the paper. I mean how stupid can you be. If your transporting pounds of drugs, I would be a little conservative in my driving.

Nick-H · Mar 18th, 2008, 09:01

Moderator Joke:

This thread is about Goa,
and any further posts about Glasgow
will be...

Oh, never mind. Carry On

edwardseco · Mar 18th, 2008, 09:18

Quote:

I'm pretty sure that most American drug-deliverers just drive wasted out of their minds. I mean, you're already a drug dealer.

To further bug Nick, a dealer once told me it was only the stupidist person (dealer) in the world that would consume their own **** (merchandise)..

Nick-H · Mar 18th, 2008, 09:51

No problem... You didn't mention Glasgow

That was a joke, by the way

Hey! It's tough having two personalities

rama-roo · Mar 27th, 2008, 03:57

I am one of those with tragic memories from Goa . I have many goan friends , some have moved out themselves . the 'fuss' is the first opportunity the media have had to witness first hand the corruption and lies . usually the victims family is in another country , police often cremate bodies (whatever the instruction).
Most of the stories are coming from the Indian media .....nobody in India trusts the police , most don't report crime .
Since the late 90's a huge influx of Russian money has poured into the drug & flesh trades ...you must have seen the boys along the beach ? huts you can rent by the hour ?
lucrative drug trade fuelled by us ,how could you miss it ?
Stations like NDTV, CNN the Hindustan Times all reporting on this case, don't forget that 14 other deaths like this since January .
Check out Atala on Youtube , the man who filmed it was threatened by the police and left Goa. His account was taken down by the police , I apprecaite that you stayed safe but when it happens to somebody you know you will undestand just how poisoness goa has become , ask Adrain Duggan .
Sunshine is very deceptive ...imagine if the beach girls were white ...it would not be cute and ethnic then ! Somehow we fall under a spell .

old man · Mar 27th, 2008, 19:10

Sorry mate to read your problems. I fully agree with all you say, Most of the other deaths have been drug related. This must be stopped, but until you go right to the top nothing will be done. If Goa thinks it has bad publicity now wait until the UK daily papers and TV programmes get wind of what is written in the Indian Tribune today.

GOA TWO TAKE PROPERTIES FROM FOREIGNERS. Where will it all end.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2008/20080315/nation.htm#5

baz · Mar 27th, 2008, 19:54

Thnaks for sharing that with us rama-roo. I read your post with great interest.

baz · Mar 27th, 2008, 21:17

rama-roo funny you mention Adrain Duggan, I came across his name and case a few times recently for some other work. Do you know where he is being held???

capt_mahajan · Mar 27th, 2008, 22:51

For those who are saying Goa is being unfairly targeted, an Indian newspaper, albeit a non-mainstream one.

Another Day In Paradise

Quote:

As many as 22 foreign tourists have died in Goa since the beginning of this year; Scarlett was one of the 11 Britons who died. For the last two years, British nationals have topped the death lists. Foreigners routinely troop into the St. Joseph’s Hospital at Anjuna for treatment for drug overdose and counselling. “Seven times this tourist season [since October], I have been called to treat a tourist with an overdose, only to pronounce the man already dead,” said Dr Jawaharlal Henriques, the hospital’s owner-director.

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We live far away, secure in our parallel, middle-class Goa and pretend that the dirty drug business doesn’t exist,” says paediatrician Nandita DeSouza, a Goa native who runs an NGO for child and family guidance. “The allnight alcohol and drug culture is now Goa’s biggest problem.

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main38....anotherday.asp

Something is rotten in the State of Denmark

shashank.aggarwal · Mar 27th, 2008, 22:57

Captain..not only the drugs..but Alcohol is something that is very understated...at the place I was staying last month, there was this lady (German OR Swiss), who had to a hospitalized for alcohol related problems...

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rama-roo Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: london Posts: 11	Media and Goa I am one of those with tragic memories from Goa . I have many goan friends , some have moved out themselves . the 'fuss' is the first opportunity the media have had to witness first hand the corruption and lies . usually the victims family is in another country , police often cremate bodies (whatever the instruction). Most of the stories are coming from the Indian media .....nobody in India trusts the police , most don't report crime . Since the late 90's a huge influx of Russian money has poured into the drug & flesh trades ...you must have seen the boys along the beach ? huts you can rent by the hour ? lucrative drug trade fuelled by us ,how could you miss it ? Stations like NDTV, CNN the Hindustan Times all reporting on this case, don't forget that 14 other deaths like this since January . Check out Atala on Youtube , the man who filmed it was threatened by the police and left Goa. His account was taken down by the police , I apprecaite that you stayed safe but when it happens to somebody you know you will undestand just how poisoness goa has become , ask Adrain Duggan . Sunshine is very deceptive ...imagine if the beach girls were white ...it would not be cute and ethnic then ! Somehow we fall under a spell .

Mar 27th, 2008, 19:10	#41
old man Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: UK/GOA Posts: 17	Sorry mate to read your problems. I fully agree with all you say, Most of the other deaths have been drug related. This must be stopped, but until you go right to the top nothing will be done. If Goa thinks it has bad publicity now wait until the UK daily papers and TV programmes get wind of what is written in the Indian Tribune today. GOA TWO TAKE PROPERTIES FROM FOREIGNERS. Where will it all end. http://www.tribuneindia.com/2008/20080315/nation.htm#5 Last edited by capt_mahajan : Mar 27th, 2008 at 21:53. Reason: deleted both mod notes.

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Mar 18th, 2008, 05:41	#31
baz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ayrshire, Scotland Posts: 110	Sadly, there is plenty of it Glasgow, it tends to be in a lot of outlying areas, not city centre - too heavily policed and lots of CCTV. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/ap...me.lornamartin By Lorna Martin Guardian.

Mar 18th, 2008, 06:16	#32
the opoponax Maha Guru Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brooklyn, via New Orleans Posts: 1,054	Why taxis? Wouldn't it be cheaper for the dealers to just buy cars or scooters or something? Maybe they could take the bus... The 'delivery service' is pretty typical in the USA. Even out in rural areas. In the town where I grew up, it was easier to get weed delivered than a pizza. Though I realize by 'hard drugs' you probably weren't talking about that.

Mar 18th, 2008, 06:31	#33
baz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ayrshire, Scotland Posts: 110	Buying a car and driving would mean staying straight. A taxi means someone else is driving and the dealers can indulge... weed is old hat here now opoponax.

Mar 18th, 2008, 09:51	#39
Nick-H Loud-mouthed, Noisy Bird Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 24,473	No problem... You didn't mention Glasgow That was a joke, by the way Hey! It's tough having two personalities

Mar 27th, 2008, 19:54	#42
baz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ayrshire, Scotland Posts: 110	Thnaks for sharing that with us rama-roo. I read your post with great interest.

Mar 27th, 2008, 21:17	#43
baz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ayrshire, Scotland Posts: 110	rama-roo funny you mention Adrain Duggan, I came across his name and case a few times recently for some other work. Do you know where he is being held???

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