Text speak - STOP IT

charlotte · Dec 16th, 2008, 21:08

How many more times do you have to be asked to stop using text speak on this Goa forum - it is driving me mad. I am not going to answer any more questions as I do not have time to decipher them.
Bye

edwardseco · Dec 16th, 2008, 21:25

A recent analysis of this evil invention found that it was a case of the tragedy of the commons from public choice theory. Its quicker for the individual to pop off. But, it wastes a ton of time for the readers to decipher. Now an interesting question is why does this proliferate on the Goa forum.?

Nick-H · Dec 16th, 2008, 23:49

Here's the official version,

Moderator Note:

We do not accept SMS or text-language Abbreviations in posts.

Our members and readers come from many different countries,
with many different mother tongues and age groups. Please take
the trouble to spell out your posts in English so that
all may easily understand.

But we don't get to read every post in every thread, and sometimes we just get fed up with the sound of our own voices on this one.

If you want to speak to us, speak English: is it too much to ask?

(we don't mind if it is bad English or mis-spelt English. We certainly don't mind attempts from members that hardly speak it but want to talk here anyway. All this is welcome. But not the people that can't be bothered to add a y and an o to a u.)

kristinm · Dec 17th, 2008, 02:24

Yes please stop - I think I'll just post this to bump this thread every time it slips off the top ones!

Hal · Dec 17th, 2008, 04:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwardseco

A recent analysis of this evil invention found that it was a case of the tragedy of the commons from public choice theory. Its quicker for the individual to pop off. But, it wastes a ton of time for the readers to decipher. Now an interesting question is why does this proliferate on the Goa forum.?

FWIW, I think it's BCOS its full of young PPL. LOL.

/and yeah, I had to go to a website which lists those abbreviations

Wonderonomic · Dec 17th, 2008, 04:53

Why not have a forum entry on common appreviations?
I dont see no waste in that. Makes us all a bit faster?

Haylo · Dec 17th, 2008, 05:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonderonomic

Why not have a forum entry on common appreviations?

Because using text speak is against the terms of the AUP or Acceptable Use Policy for this particular website. I have seen no sign that this AUP is about to be changed to allow SMS speak.

By becoming a member of this site, you ipso facto agree to the terms of membership. Basically, if you do not like it you have the right to set up your own travel advice website.

edwardseco · Dec 17th, 2008, 05:22

Quote:

ipso facto

I love that lawyer speak

..

Quote:

/and yeah, I had to go to a website which lists those abbreviations

Which is why we should not go to such a system! Maybe bablfis should do this translation..

Wonderonomic · Dec 17th, 2008, 06:43

Quote:

By becoming a member of this site, you ipso facto agree to the terms of membership. Basically, if you do not like it you have the right to set up your own travel advice website.

The ipso facto term I must have missed, does this mean we are at your mercy now???
I am having a hard time with the ipso term,
is this an actual English word or an appreviation again?
Could it be latin?
Please let us no Latin educated users know? Not all of us want to die dumb.

crvlvr · Dec 17th, 2008, 07:04

I think we are fighting an uphill battle. 2 reasons:

1. The younger generation have been raised on SMS spelling, and as time passes, there will be more of them.

2. Spelling rules in English does not make sense to begin. (why is it spelled "light" and not "lite"?)

I think deleting posts (although I understand the rational behind it) is quite a harsh approach in the live and let live world of IM.

My suggestion: create a separate section where only SMS language is allowed.

Questions should be asked in SMS speak and answered as such only. If an question asked in SMs speak is not answered, then the OP must repost that question using proper english in the appropriate section. Posts in proper english in that section should be deleted.

Personally, I will be staying away from that section.

SitaParityaga · Dec 17th, 2008, 07:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlotte

How many more times do you have to be asked to stop using text speak on this Goa forum - it is driving me mad. I am not going to answer any more questions as I do not have time to decipher them.
Bye

Don't get mad, get even! Hit that little "report post" icon, triangle with a ! in it, and the moderators will take a look.

Again, this is an international site, with many members who speak english as a second language. I like it this site to be accessible to more people because SMS speak is not supported.

PeakXV · Dec 17th, 2008, 08:51

Always remember that if they say it's not about the money - then it's always about the money! Unfortunately with Blackberries et al promoting SMS rates at xx-¢/xx-rps per message sent of up to xxx characters etc. - only add fuel to this e-evolution fire. So although I don't condone these e-text actions ..... I'm starting to get with it, e-hip & into the e-lingo y'all.

.

Aishah · Dec 17th, 2008, 09:19

I tend to agree with you, crvlvr - although I haven't a clue what your number 2 point means. However, SMS text language is yet to arrive in most areas of written English - newspapers, magazines, books, and this Forum - as an accepted form of English through 'common usage'.
Until that day, full English is the language of India Mike so all members can understand posts - I find it difficult to understand SMS texting myself, and I certainly do not want to have a dictionary here to have to look up what the abbreviations mean. Most of us have busy lives, and to do this would take up time and be irritating. As for a section of the Forum for SMS speak - since these members who write this way visit every area of the Forum this would be ridiculous. I go along with the suggestion of 'find another Forum where it is accepted'!

Hal · Dec 17th, 2008, 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aishah

I tend to agree with you, crvlvr - although I haven't a clue what your number 2 point means.

Replace "sent" with "sense" and it makes sense, And is a good example of what they are talking about, too!

GxMx · Dec 17th, 2008, 09:29

Stop The Madness- Say No To SMS

Dec 16th, 2008, 21:08	#1
charlotte Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cold UK at moment Posts: 282	Text speak - STOP IT How many more times do you have to be asked to stop using text speak on this Goa forum - it is driving me mad. I am not going to answer any more questions as I do not have time to decipher them. Bye

Dec 16th, 2008, 23:49	#3
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 35,901	Here's the official version, Moderator Note: We do not accept SMS or text-language Abbreviations in posts. Our members and readers come from many different countries, with many different mother tongues and age groups. Please take the trouble to spell out your posts in English so that all may easily understand. But we don't get to read every post in every thread, and sometimes we just get fed up with the sound of our own voices on this one. If you want to speak to us, speak English: is it too much to ask? (we don't mind if it is bad English or mis-spelt English. We certainly don't mind attempts from members that hardly speak it but want to talk here anyway. All this is welcome. But not the people that can't be bothered to add a y and an o to a u.) __________________ ... Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)

Dec 17th, 2008, 07:04	#10
crvlvr Guru Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hollywood Posts: 4,648	I think we are fighting an uphill battle. 2 reasons: 1. The younger generation have been raised on SMS spelling, and as time passes, there will be more of them. 2. Spelling rules in English does not make sense to begin. (why is it spelled "light" and not "lite"?) I think deleting posts (although I understand the rational behind it) is quite a harsh approach in the live and let live world of IM. My suggestion: create a separate section where only SMS language is allowed. Questions should be asked in SMS speak and answered as such only. If an question asked in SMs speak is not answered, then the OP must repost that question using proper english in the appropriate section. Posts in proper english in that section should be deleted. Personally, I will be staying away from that section. Last edited by crvlvr : Dec 18th, 2008 at 07:11. Reason: corrected typo "sense" insstead of "sent"

Dec 17th, 2008, 08:51	#12
PeakXV Naan.tering Nabob Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Abode of Glooscap Posts: 5,839	Always remember that if they say it's not about the money - then it's always about the money! Unfortunately with Blackberries et al promoting SMS rates at xx-¢/xx-rps per message sent of up to xxx characters etc. - only add fuel to this e-evolution fire. So although I don't condone these e-text actions ..... I'm starting to get with it, e-hip & into the e-lingo y'all.. __________________ What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lives within us. ~ Oliver Wendell Holmes Don't go to India ~ Pre-trip Warnings & Misconceptions?

Dec 17th, 2008, 09:19	#13
Aishah She-who-must-be-obeyed! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jaisalmer Posts: 7,568	I tend to agree with you, crvlvr - although I haven't a clue what your number 2 point means. However, SMS text language is yet to arrive in most areas of written English - newspapers, magazines, books, and this Forum - as an accepted form of English through 'common usage'. Until that day, full English is the language of India Mike so all members can understand posts - I find it difficult to understand SMS texting myself, and I certainly do not want to have a dictionary here to have to look up what the abbreviations mean. Most of us have busy lives, and to do this would take up time and be irritating. As for a section of the Forum for SMS speak - since these members who write this way visit every area of the Forum this would be ridiculous. I go along with the suggestion of 'find another Forum where it is accepted'! __________________ "Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards."

Dec 16th, 2008, 21:25	#2
edwardseco Maha Guru Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Land that shakes and bakes. Posts: 5,771	A recent analysis of this evil invention found that it was a case of the tragedy of the commons from public choice theory. Its quicker for the individual to pop off. But, it wastes a ton of time for the readers to decipher. Now an interesting question is why does this proliferate on the Goa forum.?

Dec 17th, 2008, 02:24	#4
kristinm Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Beautiful Bondi (not Bundi!) Posts: 1,603	Yes please stop - I think I'll just post this to bump this thread every time it slips off the top ones!

Dec 17th, 2008, 04:53	#6
Wonderonomic Account Closed Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: EU Posts: 500	Why not have a forum entry on common appreviations? I dont see no waste in that. Makes us all a bit faster?

Dec 17th, 2008, 09:29	#15
GxMx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 303	Stop The Madness- Say No To SMS

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