New Search Functionality - Need Feedback please!

Nick-H · Mar 9th, 2009, 21:51

Bingo! Great improvement.

Now, what's this Enable advanced search options box?

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Wanders off imagining Nadreg having hard-coded

if search_text matches "Register Office" print....

>

nikhilsegel · Mar 9th, 2009, 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

Wanders off imagining Nadreg having hard-coded

if search_text matches "Register Office" print....

>

I think he has...

Ok here is a specific search cos I was sure it wouldn't be on too many threads...

Goa Meetups

#259 Refers to a joke about IndiaMike Swingers Club Meetup

Search Done without Quotes : IndiaMike Swingers Club
Everything clicked
Thread / Post setting : SELECTION POSTS
Time: ANYTIME

Results 10, 779 And that thread / post isn't in the first 100

Search Done AGAIN without Quotes : IndiaMike Swingers Club
Everything clicked
Thread / Post setting : SELECTION THREADS
Time: ANYTIME

Results 5,728 And that thread / post isn't in the first 100 again

Search Done AGAIN WITH Quotes : "IndiaMike Swingers Club"
Everything clicked
Thread / Post setting : SELECTION THREADS
Time: ANYTIME

Results NONE FOUND

Search Done AGAIN WITH Quotes : "IndiaMike Swingers Club"
Everything clicked
Thread / Post setting : SELECTION POSTS
Time: ANYTIME

Results NONE FOUND

Umm Nick the boss hardwired it for ya !!!

Just kidding

Nick-H · Mar 9th, 2009, 23:47

Curious thing is that post, and the other one (in the Delhi thread) that contains the same words, is invisible to everything except the Google site search.

Looks like no sleep for Nadreg for a few nights yet...

(Don't give up!)

nikhilsegel · Mar 10th, 2009, 02:49

Search for: Big Fat Indian Bloke in the Red Shirt

no results, with quotes but its the first link on the google search.

Without quotes .. well its somewhere I am sure but its not on the first 4 pages then I got tired of hunting

Am I doing something wrong here?
Isn't the easy search in a search engine the one that is unique? Something detailed and not found on many pages?

Nick-H · Mar 10th, 2009, 03:07

But it seems to be able to cope with "Indian bloke".

My test string was also only two words.

I guess the tests need to be more demanding, like yours.

nadreg · Mar 10th, 2009, 08:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

Now, what's this Enable advanced search options box?

More on that shortly.

nadreg · Mar 10th, 2009, 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick-H

Looks like no sleep for Nadreg for a few nights yet...

Thou shalt not stump me!

I know what the problem is. Working on a fix.

nadreg · Mar 10th, 2009, 11:16

Nikhil, try your searches again.

Previously, I had capped the total number of posts that a thread would be indexed with. So for huge threads, like the Delhi thread, only the first couple of hundred posts were indexed. I've changed that now.

Nick-H · Mar 10th, 2009, 13:34

Heavy stuff, this! Glad to know you are not stumped

nikhilsegel · Mar 10th, 2009, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by nadreg

Nikhil, try your searches again.

Previously, I had capped the total number of posts that a thread would be indexed with. So for huge threads, like the Delhi thread, only the first couple of hundred posts were indexed. I've changed that now.

Works like a charm ...
Hmm now what else can I throw at it ???

is the devil incarnate here!

nikhilsegel · Mar 10th, 2009, 14:00

Ok has found something to throw at it.

a) Goto a random post. In this case looking for great restaurants in Jaipur, Delhi, Agra
Post #2

Copy past everything into the search and then delete all the silly words and leave Jaipur January Nero's Dosas Rogan Josh Lassiwala No quotes...

Search and boom its the first and only result. Thats odd?? So I reduce some words and edit and stuff and suddenly lots of results .. Ok now why was there just 1 searched post earlier?

Edit a bit more..

Now with Jaipur January Nero's Dosas Rogan Josh Lassiwala

On the new search engine I am getting 12,540 results with the specific post nowhere on the top page

BUT BUT

In the google search

its the first result and only result??

Pushed the word by word search a bit

Jaipur has 11400 posts
Jaipur January has 1330
Jaipur January Nero's 1 Result
Jaipur January Rogan Josh 1 Result
Jaipur Rogan Josh 2 Results ..

Is getting lost now.. considering I am not using " " I assumed that Google would throw up a lot more but it gets to the specific post really fast even if its misleading.

cos Where can I eat Rogan Josh in
Jaipur gives me just two results. even in google.

but on the new search
Where can I eat Rogan Josh in Jaipur
Gives me 307801 results ..

But at first glance none seems quite right

Nick-H · Mar 10th, 2009, 14:29

Quote:

is the devil incarnate here!

Yep.

Two matches.

nadreg · Mar 11th, 2009, 02:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhilsegel

So I reduce some words and edit and stuff and suddenly lots of results .. Ok now why was there just 1 searched post earlier?

What did you edit? Did you change the checkbox on the Advanced Search feature at all?

nikhilsegel · Mar 11th, 2009, 02:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by nadreg

What did you edit? Did you change the checkbox on the Advanced Search feature at all?

Ahhh now that explains it.

Without enable Advanced Search Features and Without Quotes it pops up just the two(now) results

But with the enable Advanced Search Features and Without Quotes it pops up a kazillion.

My bad.. must have checked the advanced somewhere in the middle.

nadreg · Mar 11th, 2009, 02:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikhilsegel

Ahhh now that explains it.

Without enable Advanced Search Features and Without Quotes it pops up just the two(now) results

But with the enable Advanced Search Features and Without Quotes it pops up a kazillion.

My bad.. must have checked the advanced somewhere in the middle.

I will put together a write up on what the advanced search does for you. It can get pretty confusing with the advanced search turned on.

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Mar 9th, 2009, 21:51	#31
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,189	Bingo! Great improvement. Now, what's this Enable advanced search options box? < Wanders off imagining Nadreg having hard-coded if search_text matches "Register Office" print.... >

Mar 9th, 2009, 23:47	#33
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,189	Curious thing is that post, and the other one (in the Delhi thread) that contains the same words, is invisible to everything except the Google site search. Looks like no sleep for Nadreg for a few nights yet... (Don't give up!)

Mar 10th, 2009, 02:49	#34
nikhilsegel Maha Guru Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,107	Search for: Big Fat Indian Bloke in the Red Shirt no results, with quotes but its the first link on the google search. Without quotes .. well its somewhere I am sure but its not on the first 4 pages then I got tired of hunting Am I doing something wrong here? Isn't the easy search in a search engine the one that is unique? Something detailed and not found on many pages?

Mar 10th, 2009, 03:07	#35
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,189	But it seems to be able to cope with "Indian bloke". My test string was also only two words. I guess the tests need to be more demanding, like yours.

Mar 10th, 2009, 11:16	#38
nadreg Administrator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NY, USA Posts: 2,137	Nikhil, try your searches again. Previously, I had capped the total number of posts that a thread would be indexed with. So for huge threads, like the Delhi thread, only the first couple of hundred posts were indexed. I've changed that now.

Mar 10th, 2009, 13:34	#39
Nick-H This is just a cameo appearance Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chennai, India Posts: 36,189	Heavy stuff, this! Glad to know you are not stumped

Mar 10th, 2009, 14:00	#41
nikhilsegel Maha Guru Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,107	Ok has found something to throw at it. a) Goto a random post. In this case looking for great restaurants in Jaipur, Delhi, Agra Post #2 Copy past everything into the search and then delete all the silly words and leave Jaipur January Nero's Dosas Rogan Josh Lassiwala No quotes... Search and boom its the first and only result. Thats odd?? So I reduce some words and edit and stuff and suddenly lots of results .. Ok now why was there just 1 searched post earlier? Edit a bit more.. Now with Jaipur January Nero's Dosas Rogan Josh Lassiwala On the new search engine I am getting 12,540 results with the specific post nowhere on the top page BUT BUT In the google search its the first result and only result?? Pushed the word by word search a bit Jaipur has 11400 posts Jaipur January has 1330 Jaipur January Nero's 1 Result Jaipur January Rogan Josh 1 Result Jaipur Rogan Josh 2 Results .. Is getting lost now.. considering I am not using " " I assumed that Google would throw up a lot more but it gets to the specific post really fast even if its misleading. cos Where can I eat Rogan Josh in Jaipur gives me just two results. even in google. but on the new search Where can I eat Rogan Josh in Jaipur Gives me 307801 results .. But at first glance none seems quite right