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#16 Nov 18th, 2009, 21:04
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Originally Posted by danield View Post My OCI application was returned over the weekend. The problem it they wanted more money. The website said $25 for PIO holders. Now it is $140. So I had to re-send my entire application with the new fee.

are people aware of this new fee structure? Yikes I wasted a whole month because of the outdated website.
You're right, the MIA website definitely quotes $25 as an OCI fee for PIO card holders.

I don't suppose the extra $115 is for the new certificate of proof that you've renounced Indian citizenship?
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#17 Nov 19th, 2009, 00:59
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I believe the fee structure is $25 for PIO card holders (if they were age 18 or more at the time of its (PIO) issue) and $145 for those PIO cardholders who were less than 18 at the time of its issue).

So the question of renounciation is still not applicable to US/CA OCI applicants.
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danield - if you got your PIO as a minor, then as sakamath said, the fee is $145 not $25. I'll be paying this next yr when my son turns 18.

If like him, you have never held Indian citizenship, but are applying based on parents/grandparents' status, then even if the GOI has instituted the fee discussed in this thread, it shouldn't apply to you as there is nothing to renounce:
New Indian government regulations on PIO and OCI
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i applied for my oci in jan this year. still haven't heard from them. my bank manager tells me my demand draft for 12000 rupees (the fee i was asked to pay in advance) was encashed on 13 feb this year. now i have to start chasing them in delhi about what has happened to my application. i have no tracker number, nothing. the prospect of dealing with delhi bureaucrats fills me with dread but i have procrastinated long enough. tomorrow...
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Originally Posted by anar View Post i applied for my oci in jan this year...
There is not much information available for applications made at New Delhi FRRO or for that matter at and FRRO in India.

http://www.immihelp.com/tracker/indi...oci-tracker.do

The link above (if restricted to NDelhi) suggests the last post where the applicant applied at the end of August got his/her OCI by end of Oct.

It would be a good idea to confirm who enchased your dd and heave a sigh of relief if it was Govt of India. You could then proceed to contact FRRO officials at NDelhi (if thats where you applied) and follow up with them. Little urgency in your letter and words like RTI etc, should elicit some response from them.

Let us know about your progress!
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thanks, sakamath. would you have a link to the oci website?
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Originally Posted by anar View Post ...would you have a link to the oci website?
Do you mean the "Mother of all OCI" pages?:
http://www.mha.nic.in/uniquepage.asp?Id_Pk=553

Or just the enquiry/status page?:
https://passport.gov.in/oci/OnlineOCIenquiry.jsp

You would need an acknowledgement number from the office where you applied, to check the status of your application.
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Originally Posted by sakamath View Post Do you mean the "Mother of all OCI" pages?:
http://www.mha.nic.in/uniquepage.asp?Id_Pk=553

Or just the enquiry/status page?:
https://passport.gov.in/oci/OnlineOCIenquiry.jsp

You would need an acknowledgement number from the office where you applied, to check the status of your application.
No, the online registration number is sufficient to check the status of one's application number. I used this throughout the process without a hitch.
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Originally Posted by sakamath View Post Do you mean the "Mother of all OCI" pages?:
http://www.mha.nic.in/uniquepage.asp?Id_Pk=553

Or just the enquiry/status page?:
https://passport.gov.in/oci/OnlineOCIenquiry.jsp

You would need an acknowledgement number from the office where you applied, to check the status of your application.
thanks for that. i have sent an email to:

usoci-mha@nic.in

hope i get a response...i received no acknowledgement therefore have no number!
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Originally Posted by anar View Post thanks for that. i have sent an email to:

usoci-mha@nic.in

hope i get a response...i received no acknowledgement therefore have no number!
Did you try plugging your online registration number ?
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Originally Posted by namaste_cat View Post Afraid so. Means it's still in the U.S. and being processed, in fact preliminary phase. In another thread someone posted an article that said there's been a surge in OCI applications and the US accounts for 45% of OCIs issued,

Not kind of true
. All Missions and foreign posts do minimal initial processing. While it is true that most OCI applicants tend to be former indian passport holders or first generation children of former citizens. Some are not It is they whose application that the mission validates.

E.g. Examine/verify/validate Birth certificate of the applicant for parent's name. Examine/verify/validate Birth certificate of the applicant's parent for the grandparent's name and further [Examine/verify/validate documentary evidence of the grandparent's citizenship and link to the great grandparent...this is where the drama shifts to the indian soil ]
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Originally Posted by haal Fakiran da View Post
Not kind of true
. All Missions and foreign posts do minimal initial processing. While it is true that most OCI applicants tend to be former indian passport holders or first generation children of former citizens. Some are not It is they whose application that the mission validates.

E.g. Examine/verify/validate Birth certificate of the applicant for parent's name. Examine/verify/validate Birth certificate of the applicant's parent for the grandparent's name and further [Examine/verify/validate documentary evidence of the grandparent's citizenship and link to the great grandparent...this is where the drama shifts to the indian soil ]
Well it does for those of us who did have had Indian passports as well. So not sure what "Not kind of true" means.
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Originally Posted by haal Fakiran da View Post
Not kind of true
. All Missions and foreign posts do minimal initial processing. While it is true that most OCI applicants tend to be former indian passport holders or first generation children of former citizens. Some are not It is they whose application that the mission validates.

E.g. Examine/verify/validate Birth certificate of the applicant for parent's name. Examine/verify/validate Birth certificate of the applicant's parent for the grandparent's name and further [Examine/verify/validate documentary evidence of the grandparent's citizenship and link to the great grandparent...this is where the drama shifts to the indian soil ]
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Originally Posted by namaste_cat View Post Well it does for those of us who did have had Indian passports as well. So not sure what "Not kind of true" means.
It means (if I understood correctly), that US consulates do very preliminary cursory processing initially and hence not the cause of delay. They then ship it via a diplomatic pouch to India; where a rigorous search is done. Only applications which are out of the ordinary are initially validated and processed at the mission, which can cause delays.

***From an insider paraphrased

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We examine and check the correctness of attached supporting documents, if these are in xxxxxxx since there is limited expertise in South Block.


The most tricky OCI applications would come from countries where the supporting documents are in language other than English.
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Not kind of true
My take on this is that major processing regarding the validity of an applicant to gain OCI status is at the respective embassies and not in NDelhi.

Only those applications are forwarded to India where everything is in order. If I am not mistaken, I read somewhere that after OCI is granted, a background check is done and if something negative comes up, the OCI is revoked. Which means that at least the paper work is not held up in India.
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Originally Posted by sakamath View Post My take on this is that major processing regarding the validity of an applicant to gain OCI status is at the respective embassies and not in NDelhi.

Only those applications are forwarded to India where everything is in order. If I am not mistaken, I read somewhere that after OCI is granted, a background check is done and if something negative comes up, the OCI is revoked. Which means that at least the paper work is not held up in India.
That's my understanding too. The initial vetting is done at the foreign location where application is submitted.

I've been told by the consulate here that they work through the applications in batches. So if one misses that, application sits until they get more together and work on the next batch. These days it sounds like they're very busy, so that initial acknowledgment is taking longer.

HFD - Obviously the amount of work involved will be different based on the person's eligibility (i.e. previously Indian passport holder or applying via parent/grandparent, and paperwork etc. But if it doesn't pass that test, it's not sent to Delhi.

And as sakamath said, revocation or possibility of it comes at a later date so it's not at least initially part of the holdup.
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