Aadhaar card for Foreigner?

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#136 Dec 23rd, 2017, 11:46
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Originally Posted by nycank View Post mamoru-san, similar wont do. Earlier this year I DMed a very precisely crafted query, I got a specific reply three days later.

Plan E: Have your spouse send a Chaprasi, or an assistant, to accompany you to the nearest center to her work place. See what that brings about !
thanks for the suggestion. I think it's worth a shot.
I wrote: "@UIDAI I am OCI residing over 200+ days in India. @UnionBankTweets employee at Green Park extension branch, refuse to enroll me as per regulation for residents @UIDAIRODELHI @PMOIndia Pls help."

One issue I seen by customer service in India is they can't seem to answer any questions that isn't part of FAQs...
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Originally Posted by mamoru01 View Post One issue I seen by customer service in India is they can't seem to answer any questions that isn't part of FAQs...


We wrote the Operating Manual for it. Birth of outsourced customer center
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Originally Posted by mamoru01 View Post thanks for the suggestion. I think it's worth a shot.
I wrote: "@UIDAI I am OCI residing over 200+ days in India. @UnionBankTweets employee at Green Park extension branch, refuse to enroll me as per regulation for residents @UIDAIRODELHI @PMOIndia Pls help."

One issue I seen by customer service in India is they can't seem to answer any questions that isn't part of FAQs...
Still no response....
Another customer service tactic used in India. They ignore your request, hoping you get fed up and give up. If you follow up, they blame technical error.

I guess my request was too complicated for the Bot to handle...
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If you are lucky you might get a response next year, which is a couple of days away.

I think resending the message again appending it with a Reminder 1 might help. If you don't get a response in a couple of days again resend the message appending with a Reminder 2 and so on.
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Originally Posted by aarosh View Post If you are lucky you might get a response next year, which is a couple of days away.

I think resending the message again appending it with a Reminder 1 might help. If you don't get a response in a couple of days again resend the message appending with a Reminder 2 and so on.
... or just go to a proper Aadhaar Enrolment Centre!

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Originally Posted by a_f_d View Post ... or just go to a proper Aadhaar Enrolment Centre!

AndyD 8-)
If I was UIDAI, that's the same suggestion that I would have given. But since they haven't done after all this time, it probably doesn't even exist....
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Originally Posted by mamoru01 View Post If I was UIDAI, that's the same suggestion that I would have given. But since they haven't done after all this time, it probably doesn't even exist....
see #131

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Originally Posted by aarosh View Post If you are lucky you might get a response next year, which is a couple of days away.

I think resending the message again appending it with a Reminder 1 might help. If you don't get a response in a couple of days again resend the message appending with a Reminder 2 and so on.
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Originally Posted by mamoru01 View Post Still no response....
Another customer service tactic used in India. They ignore your request, hoping you get fed up and give up. If you follow up, they blame technical error.

I guess my request was too complicated for the Bot to handle...
@mamoru01

Send a new public tweet to UIDAI (even if the text is the same) and tag Sushma Swaraj as well (@SushmaSwaraj).

Worth a shot.

Oh, there seems to be some sort of confusion around the term OCI. I recently read a news article about the Govt "considering issuing Aadhaar cards to NRIs and OCI card holders". Obviously we here are OCI card holders, however we have also been residing in India for minimum stipulated time (continuous stay of 182 days) and that is the deciding factor in this whole Aadhaar or No Aadhaar debacle.

For example, say you get married here and want to stay here after getting married. You will only be eligible for OCI after completing 2 years of marriage. So initially you apply for Entry Visa X, which FRRO usually issues for 1 year (then you extend until you are eligible for OCI). Well, guess what? After 182 days of contiuous stay in India on this very first visa you can apply for Aadhaar as well.

So perhaps people in enrollment center hear the word OCI and automatically filter out eveything else you say simply because you said "OCI" and they say NO to your application.

Just some food for thought.
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Originally Posted by solarplexus View Post For example, say you get married here and want to stay here after getting married. You will only be eligible for OCI after completing 2 years of marriage. So initially you apply for Entry Visa X, which FRRO usually issues for 1 year (then you extend until you are eligible for OCI). Well, guess what? After 182 days of contiuous stay in India on this very first visa you can apply for Aadhaar as well.
Another thought just struck me after rereading this. Entry Visa X doesn't automatically give you a work permit (so essentially you can't legally work until you get yourself an OCI card), but you can apply for Aadhaar... and Aadhaar entitles you to various benefits.

India is indeed a crazy place
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Entry Visa X doesn't automatically give you a work permit (so essentially you can't legally work until you get yourself an OCI card), but you can apply for Aadhaar... and Aadhaar entitles you to various benefits.
You cannot work on an X visa. I don't think there is a "Work permit" in India, just employment visas and PIO/OCI-card status.

I have not noticed any benefits of having an ardhaar card: Only important things which I might have lost unless I had one. Initially, these were very few: for me, I think it just about began and ended with the subsidy on my gas supply, which was withdrawn shortly after I set up the ardhar to support it, anyway.

It is not benefits, more stuff that you won't be able to go on doing, including a lot of important stuff.

If there are any bonus features I missed, do let me know!
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I think what solarplexus means is that Aadhaar was (at least originally) designed as a way to ensure various government subsidies and benefits (such as the gas subsidy you mention) were reaching the people they were intended for and not being skimmed off through fraud, fake identities, and such. There are no new benefits that accrue simply by obtaining an Aadhaar number.

It is true that someone on an X visa or other non-permanent visa may be eligible for Aadhaar by duration of residency. That should not automatically make them eligible for government schemes intended solely for citizens. The flaw is in the implementation, where some government agencies may be assuming that checking for the Aadhaar now is enough, instead of looking at all the eligibility criteria for any particular subsidy or other benefit.
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Originally Posted by solarplexus View Post Another thought just struck me after rereading this. Entry Visa X doesn't automatically give you a work permit (so essentially you can't legally work until you get yourself an OCI card), but you can apply for Aadhaar... and Aadhaar entitles you to various benefits.

India is indeed a crazy place
OCI has never been a factor in my refusal for enrollment as UIDAI doesn't recognize OCI as proof of ID/DoB or Address. It's the foreign passport because I seen others with employment visa being refused.

As for aadhaar benefits, I can't think of any as well. I'm trying to get one so my sim and bank account doesn't get deactivated.
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Originally Posted by mamoru01 View Post OCI has never been a factor in my refusal for enrollment as UIDAI doesn't recognize OCI as proof of ID/DoB or Address. It's the foreign passport because I seen others with employment visa being refused.

As for aadhaar benefits, I can't think of any as well. I'm trying to get one so my sim and bank account doesn't get deactivated.
This was posted on UIDAI twitter.
Still doesn't answer my question...
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Aadhaar card for Foreigner?

Ardhaar is not for any benefit. It is to avoid de-benefit!

Aside: my entitlement to subsidised gas happened automatically. It continued until the maximum income-level was introduced and I voluntarily declared myself no longer eligible. If it irks anyone, let them consider that 50% of my family is Indian citizen!

Same with what was once a fairly substantial electricity subsidy. Automatic. Now negligable anyway.

I wonder when they'll think up "linking" Ardhaar to electricity supply. Or blood transfusion...
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Originally Posted by Bandicoot View Post I think what solarplexus means is that Aadhaar was (at least originally) designed as a way to ensure various government subsidies and benefits (such as the gas subsidy you mention) were reaching the people they were intended for and not being skimmed off through fraud, fake identities, and such.
Original intent was to have a UID (Unique ID) for people in border states. Like all ideas, it got morphed into something else. The intent was laudable, and ambitious - The application and execution terrible.

It's like SSN, voluntary, and much abused; and its uses way above the original intent and scope.
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