Aadhaar card for Foreigner?

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I have a Japanese passport with OCI. I been staying here in Delhi for 2.5 years.

I just got this text message from Vodafone:
"As per Government's directive, it is mandatory to link Aadhaar card with your vodafone Mobile number. Visit to nearest retailer to ensure continued services.

I did some research and according to below article, Expats who stayed in India for 182 days or more must apply for Aadhaar card.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/58031326.cms

Do you think it's really mandatory?
Anyone have any experience applying for Aadhaar card as a foreigner?
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Originally Posted by mamoru01 View Post I have a Japanese passport with OCI. I been staying here in Delhi for 2.5 years.

I just got this text message from Vodafone:
"As per Government's directive, it is mandatory to link Aadhaar card with your vodafone Mobile number. Visit to nearest retailer to ensure continued services.

I did some research and according to below article, Expats who stayed in India for 182 days or more must apply for Aadhaar card.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/58031326.cms

Do you think it's really mandatory?
Anyone have any experience applying for Aadhaar card as a foreigner?

So are we to assume that you are ( or should be ) paying taxes in India.
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I think it is mandatory for the telecom provider to link Aadhar card with a number. The services could be terminated if Aadhar card is not linked. I think the banks also have to update the Aadhar card with the account.
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Please read the FAQs on this site:

The Unique Identification Authority of India (UIDAI) >> Your Aadhaar Help FAQs >> Recently Asked Questions
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Recently Asked Questions

- Is it necessary to link bank account with Aadhaar?
As per gazette notification of Ministry of Finance, dated 1st June 2017, Individuals are required to provide Aadhaar number for linking all their bank accounts before 31st Dec 2017.

For residents not having Aadhaar it is suggested that they get themselves Enroled to get an Aadhaar.

- In case, Resident is an NRI/OCI card holder and having bank account in India but Resident doesn’t have Aadhaar. What will happen to his/her Bank account?
For NRIs it is suggested that they disclose their non-resident status with proof to their bank.

For the status of account becoming in-operational only the relevant banks shall be able to give response.
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- Is it mandatory to enrol for Aadhaar to file tax returns or apply for PAN in India? If yes, then what is the process for NRIs?
Section 139AA of the Income-tax Act, 1961 as introduced by the Finance Act, 2017 provides for mandatory quoting of Aadhaar / Enrolment ID of Aadhaar application form, for filing of return of income and for making an application for allotment of Permanent Account Number with effect from 1st July, 2017.

It is clarified that such mandatory quoting of Aadhaar or Enrolment ID shall apply only to a person who is eligible to obtain Aadhaar number.

As per the Aadhaar (Targeted Delivery of Financial and Other Subsidies, Benefits and Services) Act, 2016, only a resident individual is entitled to obtain Aadhaar. Resident as per the said Act means an individual who has resided in India for a period or periods amounting in all to one hundred and eighty-two days or more in the twelve months immediately preceding the date of application for enrolment. Accordingly, the requirement to quote Aadhaar as per section 139AA of the Income-tax Act shall not apply to an individual who is not a resident as per the Aadhaar Act, 2016.
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Had you been a non-resident (i.e. if you had spent less than 182 days in the preceding year), or if you were not eligible for an Aadhaar card, then you would have been exempt.

Since you are a resident in India, it follows that you will require an Aadhaar card to link to any bank account and PAN card number which you may have (i.e., if you have a bank account and if you pay local taxes).

Likewise, the Aadhaar number will be linked to your mobile number, if you have one issued in your own name.
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Originally Posted by aarosh View Post I think it is mandatory for the telecom provider to link Aadhar card with a number. The services could be terminated if Aadhar card is not linked. I think the banks also have to update the Aadhar card with the account.
I actually haven't worked in India since I was on a spouse visa until recently, which prohibited me from doing any work.

As for the bank, my wife is actually Indian so we were able to open a joint account with only my wife's Aadhaar card.
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Originally Posted by mamoru01 View Post I actually haven't worked in India since I was on a spouse visa until recently, which prohibited me from doing any work.

As for the bank, my wife is actually Indian so we were able to open a joint account with only my wife's Aadhaar card.
If you don't update your Aadhar card with the account you may not be able to operate the account. Your wife can.
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I went to vodafone this week to get a new postpaid sim under my name. They didn't even ask me about my aadhaar card. Either way, I'll probably apply for aadhaar card so I can use it as ID proof.
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Some time ago we went to airtel to link aadhar card to our prepaid sims.
Wife has a postpaid sim and they said not necessary. Now they say it is.
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Strange. Last year in September 16 I had been to Vodafone gallery to get a postpaid sim card and was asked for Aadhar card. They had the biometric machine and took my thumbprint. Same process in January 2017 for another postpaid sim card.
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Yes, just a misinformed showroom-staff member on the day, I suppose. These things happen

But... landlines/broadband? I have not heard anything about aadhaar and that yet. I expect it will come.
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Originally Posted by mamoru01 View Post I went to vodafone this week to get a new postpaid sim under my name. They didn't even ask me about my aadhaar card. Either way, I'll probably apply for aadhaar card so I can use it as ID proof.
India India India...
Why do you make my life complicated

So I went to the enrollment centre today to apply for aadhaar card. I was told that foreigners are not eligible for aadhaar card. I told him that OCI holder residing in India for 182 days are eligible and asked him to check with UIDAI. He told me I need a letter from employer stating I been here for 182 days.
The UIDAI website mentions nothings about proving supporting document to prove that I been residing here for 182days. Now I'm stuck as I have not been working in India. I have contacted UIDAI helpdesk to see what other documents they accept.
Any other suggestions?
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If I recall correct you did mention that you have a joint bank account with your wife. There is an Aadhar counter in the banks also now. Approach them or go to another enrolment center.

Does the UIDAI website mention that foreigners staying for more than 182 days should apply for Aadhar? If yes then take a print out of that along with you.
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Why do you make my life complicated

So I went to the enrollment centre today to apply for aadhaar card. I was told that foreigners are not eligible for aadhaar card. I told him that OCI holder residing in India for 182 days are eligible and asked him to check with UIDAI. He told me I need a letter from employer stating I been here for 182 days.
The UIDAI website mentions nothings about proving supporting document to prove that I been residing here for 182days. Now I'm stuck as I have not been working in India. I have contacted UIDAI helpdesk to see what other documents they accept.
Any other suggestions?
Ugh! If it's not one thing it is another. The Indian government and its babus (bureaucrats) can't design or implement any scheme, project or policy which is smooth, clear and unambiguous.

The Unique Identification Authority of India (UIDAI) site clearly states the policy with respect to Non Residents in its FAQs and cites the Parliamentary Acts and sections relevant to the residency rules. (In its FAQs, Non Resident Indian (NRI) is used to mean 'Non Resident' individuals, and not Indian Citizens resident abroad).

https://uidai.gov.in/your-aadhaar/help/faqs.html
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FAQ on Your Aadhaar

NRI & Aadhaar



- Can NRIs also get Aadhaar?
As per the Aadhaar (Targeted Delivery of Financial and Other Subsidies, Benefits and Services) Act, 2016, only a resident who has resided in India for a period or periods amounting in all to 182 or more in the 12 months immediately preceding the date of application for enrolment is eligible for Aadhaar.

- I’m an NRI now and have an Aadhaar. How can I link it to my PAN?
In order to link PAN and Aadhaar cards, tax payers have to first register on the Income tax e-Filing portal. Once they have done so, they are to follow the steps outlined below:

- Log in to the e-Filing portal of the Income Tax Department by entering the log-in ID, password and date of birth

- On logging in to the site, a pop up window will appear, prompting you to link your PAN card with Aadhaar card.

- Details such as name, date of birth and gender will already be mentioned as per the details submitted at the time of registration on the e-Filing portal.

- Verify the details on screen with the ones mentioned on your Aadhaar card.

- If the details match, enter your Aadhaar card number and click on the “link now” button.

- A pop-up message will inform you that your Aadhaar card has been successfully linked to your PAN card.

- I’m an NRI and don’t have an Aadhaar. Is it true that my PAN will be blocked if I’m not able to provide Aadhaar by 30th April?
Section 139AA of the Income-tax Act, 1961 as introduced by the Finance Act, 2017 provides for mandatory quoting of Aadhaar / Enrolment ID of Aadhaar application form, for filing of return of income and for making an application for allotment of Permanent Account Number with effect from 1st July, 2017. It is clarified that such mandatory quoting of Aadhaar or Enrolment ID shall apply only to a person who is eligible to obtain Aadhaar number. As per the Aadhaar (Targeted Delivery of Financial and Other Subsidies, Benefits and Services) Act, 2016, only a resident individual is entitled to obtain Aadhaar. Resident as per the said Act means an individual who has resided in India for a period or periods amounting in all to one hundred and eighty-two days or more in the twelve months immediately preceding the date of application for enrolment. Accordingly, the requirement to quote Aadhaar as per section 139AA of the Income-tax Act shall not apply to an individual who is not a resident as per the Aadhaar Act, 2016.

Moreover, Filing details of the Aadhaar number while submitting Income Tax returns from July 2017 does not apply to NRIs.

You could try to file a complaint via their 'Grievance Redressal Mechanism', but their 'Resident portal – File a Complaint' link doesn't resolve at my end.

Contact them:

https://uidai.gov.in/about-uidai/contact-us.html

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New Delhi - 110001
Phone : 011-23466899

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Good luck and do keep us updated.
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Originally Posted by mamoru01 View Post So I went to the enrollment centre today to apply for aadhaar card. I was told that foreigners are not eligible for aadhaar card. I told him that OCI holder residing in India for 182 days are eligible ...
Any resident is eligible. Nationality, PIO/OCI, etc, all have nothing to do with it. Only residence counts.

If I remember correctly, this was made clear, way back then, in the original newspaper adverts, which even included a token blonde in the photos.

If you can, go to a different office, different counter... Or just when you can see that that guy is not there.
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Is it required to prove residency status in case of PIO/OCI person, if yes, how does one prove that? Maybe that is where the employer letter thing comes in, so not all that illogical. One has to provide some document to prove residency otherwise how would anyone know.
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