Canadian visa refused twice!

#1 Sep 24th, 2017, 07:20
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Hi everyone!
I'm hoping someone can help me with this.

I applied for a canadian visa twice, and got rejected both times.

My second application was much much stronger, it even had a letter of invitation from my close friend who had stayed with me while in India for almost 3 months!
Property, mother's financials, and a cover letter refuting every point that the original visa officer had declined me on. I even have previous UK and European visas.

I showed everything but they still denied me on the grounds of Given economic conditions, employment prospects, considering your travel history, economic establishment and family ties, I am not satisfied that you would respect the terms of your admission as a temporary resident in Canada.

I don't know how to go forward with this. Can someone provide any guidance? My trip was for 20 days.


I was thinking that if I go abroad, for example - UK - and apply from a foreign country, it would be easier?
#2 Sep 24th, 2017, 07:33
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I hope I am not speaking "out of turn", but if you honestly wish to visit Canada for just 20 days, suggesting going to UK to apply seems a bit "over the top". Maybe there is something you are not revealing here?
It may be also that they confuse you with someone of similar name?
Maybe ask the Canadian consulate in India for more information?

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So both times the same reason was given?
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Originally Posted by OldandRambling View Post I hope I am not speaking "out of turn", but if you honestly wish to visit Canada for just 20 days, suggesting going to UK to apply seems a bit "over the top". Maybe there is something you are not revealing here?
It may be also that they confuse you with someone of similar name?
Maybe ask the Canadian consulate in India for more information?

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I've travelled to the UK and Europe, my next destination was Canada. Im just looking to travel and I'm upset and disappointed. Excuse me for wanting to travel while I still have the chance. It doesnt feel good nor does it gives me hope when visas are rejected. I was just being honest there and sharing my thought process with the people here.
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Originally Posted by aarosh View Post So both times the same reason was given?
Yes, both times the same reasons were given. I just don't understand.
#6 Sep 24th, 2017, 07:55
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There is really nothing to understand; the shit that happens with visas is directly proportional to skin colour and nationality. I can give you at least four instances in recent months where perfectly legitimate educated and frequent travellers from India have been refused tourist visas on some iffy grounds to places like Germany and others in Europe or North America. They are all in their early 30s.

Me, I would never again apply for a visa to a country that had rejected my application once. Screw 'em.
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Hi, thank you. I am having a look now It seems like even this person couldnt get through.

How do people do it then? How do they travel?
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Originally Posted by chawkmok View Post How do people do it then? How do they travel?
Lots of people are granted visas. I don't know about Canada, but some countries like to trumpet that the great majority of applications are granted.

My mother country is uk. Around a decade ago, there was a parliamentary report which found that the refusal of visas was arbitrary and inconsistent. Steps were made to improve that situation, but I'm not in a position to comment on their success. The last time I took my Indian wife to UK, we had to give fixed deposit, house deeds, etc, in original. She's never been refused a visitor visa, but the process has got harder, takes much longer, and costs a great deal more than it used to. Thankfully, for her, after a number of visits she is not that much interested to go again.

I don't know how much having an invitation from a friend counts. Anyone can have a friend; any friend can invite.

From aarosh's link, it looks like you got a standard cut&paste denial. Real reason: no particular reason.

Take the Captain's advice" screw Canada.
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I don't know how much having an invitation from a friend counts. Anyone can have a friend; any friend can invite.

Take the Captain's advice" screw Canada.

A few of my tamil friends who are smarter, richer and better english than me -- never go OS without the " Letter / Invitation --- Bling is king -- nice fancy letterhead, and if you can include something " Shiny/ Reflective " on the cover page all the better.
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I suspect that there is a large cultural mismatch there. They may think that bling is king; visa officers probably think the opposite.
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Originally Posted by Nick-H View Post I suspect that there is a large cultural mismatch there. They may think that bling is king; visa officers probably think the opposite.

True Nick -- they do a lot of ground work with the intro letters -- the bling is my suggestion, that so far they haven't managed to incorporate into their applications.
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Mostly they deny a visa when they have suspicion the visitor is not in mood of returning back and may stay back with the help of local sponsor.

Best option always is to book a hotel for stay and apply for tourist visa. And to furnish the whole itinerary also works in favor.
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Are you unemployed / not working any where? You have not mentioned that in your posts. That would be a very big deterrent.
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To be blunt, the OP's message here seems to confirm the assessment of the official denying the visa. The insistence on reaching Canada - even to the extent of traveling to the UK to obtain the visa for entry into Canada is way over the top...

Canada is hardly a must visit tourist destination at most times of the year, particularly in the winter. Either the OP is desperate to ski around Whistler to establish a place in the Indian skiing team or, more likely, misrepresenting his/her intentions.

Unlike a lot of countries, Canada actually welcomes immigrants and has a well organized immigration process. It is not unreasonable for it to deny visa to people it suspects might be looking to short circuit that process.
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