Planning to use Flickr to share and backup my photos.

NeoAsimov · May 27th, 2005, 04:27

Hello!

I'm considering to buy a professional account on Flickr to backup and share my travel photos with my friends and family.

I think it could be a good idea. However, I wonder on the average computer system infrastructures in India. I know that in all bigs cities and touristic places, you have access to all the required stuff. However, will I have access, in most cities, to a broadband connection, and a WindowsXP station with USB ports?

Plus, what about Nepal and Bengladesh?

Thank a lot for your inputs!

Salutations,

Fred

Anders · May 27th, 2005, 04:57

Keep in mind that I have not been in India for almost 14 months now,

Broadband: In the big cities.
WindogsXP: Never saw a computer with it.
USB: On every computer.

If I were you, I would try to find another way of storing my photos.

byronic · May 27th, 2005, 06:44

For me also, yes it has been over a year since I was in India last.

Even in Delhi, every internet cafe I went to was 56kb. Some claimed to have broadband, yet the Yahoo hompage still took a good 5 to 6 seconds to load. They may have broadband in internet cafes in Delhi, yet their pipeline is still sloooow.
At one internet cafe in Jhansi (over a 1/2 million population) they claimed to have broadband. I asked, "well how broad?" and he said. "broadband, 128kb...", they were really downloading at about 16kb, and as you may know, uploading is often slower than downloading.

In every internet cafe I went to in India, just getting to read and write email, is pretty damn good, and that takes a while at that.

NeoAsimov · May 27th, 2005, 08:56

Hahahahha, okay

It's exactly what I wanted to know, thank. Then, my good idea was not as good as I tought. However, who said that we couldn't go back to the futur? :P

Salutations,

Fred

NeoAsimov · May 27th, 2005, 09:00

I forget: then there are a whole lot of internet cafe, in all cities, but only good to send email?

Fred

Paagla Dashu · May 27th, 2005, 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anders

Keep in mind that I have not been in India for almost 14 months now,

Broadband: In the big cities.
WindogsXP: Never saw a computer with it.
USB: On every computer.

If I were you, I would try to find another way of storing my photos.

I don't imagine that there is a computer anywhere in the world with an OS called "WindogsXP"!

On a serious note, presuming it was a typo, what OS did the computers in India run on? Windows 3.1?

machadinha · May 27th, 2005, 09:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paagla Dashu

On a serious note, presuming it was a typo, what OS did the computers in India run on? Windows 3.1?

There were several versions between 3.1 and XP Paagla.

byronic · May 27th, 2005, 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paagla Dashu

I don't imagine that there is a computer anywhere in the world with an OS called "WindogsXP"!

On a serious note, presuming it was a typo, what OS did the computers in India run on? Windows 3.1?

In 2004 they were running on 98 and 2000 if I remember correctly?

NeoAsimov,

You could use flicker to upload a few photos for friends and family. But as far as backing up even 20mb of photos may take you all day. Also you would be getting dirty looks from the line waiting behind you to use the computer HAHA. You can upload photos even by email, but then there is the issue of file size. In only one internet cafe that I was in did one of the computers have PhotoShop style software where I could optimize my email photo.

Indojingai · May 27th, 2005, 09:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by machadinha

There were several versions between 3.1 and XP Paagla.

uhahah .... or Mac OX
(pull on Mac OS X & machadinha's screenname and avatar)

this thread is cracking...

NeoAsimov · May 27th, 2005, 09:52

Hello Byronic,

Thank for the information

It's exactly the problem. It's why I'll keep them for me, and only for me

However, I had the idea to use them on a blog that I'm tinking to start for this trip, but given the connectivity, I think that I'll need to forget this feature

Salutations,

Fred

Paagla Dashu · May 27th, 2005, 09:52

That could be true for Internet Cafes in small towns. Windows XP was not really a huge leap forward over Windows 98 (still the best system for Home Computers) - it mainly improved on networking and security features - not a huge concern for stand alone workstations meant for web-surfing in Internet Cafes.

machadinha · May 27th, 2005, 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indojingai

uhahah .... or Mac OX
(pull on Mac OS X & machadinha's screenname and avatar)

this thread is cracking...

LOL where are you at and what time is it and what are you on Indo?

Indojingai · May 27th, 2005, 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by machadinha

where are you at and what time is it and what are you on Indo?

The dead silent Japanese office in Yokohama, about noon and Starbucks Latte... (btw their Tazo chai is loaded with cinnamon (in the name of masala chai ) and not like the one mom makes at home...

)

Mac OX .. well drawing analogy from WindogsXP ...

cyberhippie · May 27th, 2005, 11:29

Most supposed broad band in India is 128/256Kbps
This is often shared amongst several computers plus the the providors are often heavily oversubscribed which brings down the speed!
Broadband in India is more of a 24 hour online service than a fast upload/download speed!!
ADSL lines are being offered by BSNL starting this year in 198 cities! This will give 512 Kbps download speeds!! It's going to be pretty pricey I believe so don't hold your breath on this one but I'm sure by the end of the year you will see some fast services springing up!
Windows 98 is still the overwhelmingly popular OS though you can find machines running XP if you look around!
Most compuers have USB slots and there are many places that have multiple card readers that read pretty much any storage card!
If you want download your photos to a hard disc straight from the camera take the software disc that came with your digital camera (copy it onto disc don't take the original) and all cables that came with the camera!
There are plenty places offering to put your photos on disc! A lot of places wil have some king of photo editing software installed (Photoshop 6-7 isn't uncommon) so you can adjust your file size for faster uploading!
Get the Gimp a free editing program and copy it to disc for editing your photos! see here The Gimp
In short getting your photos put on disc isn't a problem in many tourist spots!
Try to learn about saving your photos to disc yourself!! Whilst many cybercafes and photo developing shops do a great job of burning your photos to disc there are a few fools who have wiped people flashcard etc because they didn't know what they were doing!!
Get a couple of the biggest storage card you can afford I know some formats go up 1 Gigabyte these days, this will give you a lot of freedom between burning your stuff to disc!
Unless you want to print big blow ups of your photos, shoot in a low JPEG quality, you don't need massive JPEGs if you want to publish them on the web as your holiday snaps!!

I hope that has been of some use to you!!!

byronic · May 27th, 2005, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoAsimov

Hello Byronic,

Thank for the information

It's exactly the problem. It's why I'll keep them for me, and only for me

However, I had the idea to use them on a blog that I'm tinking to start for this trip, but given the connectivity, I think that I'll need to forget this feature

Salutations,

Fred

Neo,

You know, you could blog on your trip. The idea is possible. I think though that you would need to travel with a laptop, one that has all the software you will need to make it work. 1) A word processor program, 2) A photo editing program, 3) A blog offline program. One would write, format, and put images together, offline. The whole entry with photos would be put together off-line.
Then when at the internet cafe upload the whole finished entry. You would have to upload the pics to your service provider, then upload the journal enrty to your blog site.

How does that sound? It almost convinces me to give it a try.

May 27th, 2005, 04:27	#1
NeoAsimov Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 35	Planning to use Flickr to share and backup my photos. Hello! I'm considering to buy a professional account on Flickr to backup and share my travel photos with my friends and family. I think it could be a good idea. However, I wonder on the average computer system infrastructures in India. I know that in all bigs cities and touristic places, you have access to all the required stuff. However, will I have access, in most cities, to a broadband connection, and a WindowsXP station with USB ports? Plus, what about Nepal and Bengladesh? Thank a lot for your inputs! Salutations, Fred

May 27th, 2005, 06:44	#3
byronic back in the ussa Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Rang De Basantistan or Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 489	For me also, yes it has been over a year since I was in India last. Even in Delhi, every internet cafe I went to was 56kb. Some claimed to have broadband, yet the Yahoo hompage still took a good 5 to 6 seconds to load. They may have broadband in internet cafes in Delhi, yet their pipeline is still sloooow. At one internet cafe in Jhansi (over a 1/2 million population) they claimed to have broadband. I asked, "well how broad?" and he said. "broadband, 128kb...", they were really downloading at about 16kb, and as you may know, uploading is often slower than downloading. In every internet cafe I went to in India, just getting to read and write email, is pretty damn good, and that takes a while at that. __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/byronic501/

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Paagla Dashu Unreasonably Unreasonable Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Where They Wear Clogs Posts: 1,222	That could be true for Internet Cafes in small towns. Windows XP was not really a huge leap forward over Windows 98 (still the best system for Home Computers) - it mainly improved on networking and security features - not a huge concern for stand alone workstations meant for web-surfing in Internet Cafes. Last edited by Paagla Dashu : Jun 9th, 2005 at 23:33.

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Anders Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: England Posts: 630	Keep in mind that I have not been in India for almost 14 months now, Broadband: In the big cities. WindogsXP: Never saw a computer with it. USB: On every computer. If I were you, I would try to find another way of storing my photos.

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cyberhippie Account Closed by User's Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 6,009	Most supposed broad band in India is 128/256Kbps This is often shared amongst several computers plus the the providors are often heavily oversubscribed which brings down the speed! Broadband in India is more of a 24 hour online service than a fast upload/download speed!! ADSL lines are being offered by BSNL starting this year in 198 cities! This will give 512 Kbps download speeds!! It's going to be pretty pricey I believe so don't hold your breath on this one but I'm sure by the end of the year you will see some fast services springing up! Windows 98 is still the overwhelmingly popular OS though you can find machines running XP if you look around! Most compuers have USB slots and there are many places that have multiple card readers that read pretty much any storage card! If you want download your photos to a hard disc straight from the camera take the software disc that came with your digital camera (copy it onto disc don't take the original) and all cables that came with the camera! There are plenty places offering to put your photos on disc! A lot of places wil have some king of photo editing software installed (Photoshop 6-7 isn't uncommon) so you can adjust your file size for faster uploading! Get the Gimp a free editing program and copy it to disc for editing your photos! see here The Gimp In short getting your photos put on disc isn't a problem in many tourist spots! Try to learn about saving your photos to disc yourself!! Whilst many cybercafes and photo developing shops do a great job of burning your photos to disc there are a few fools who have wiped people flashcard etc because they didn't know what they were doing!! Get a couple of the biggest storage card you can afford I know some formats go up 1 Gigabyte these days, this will give you a lot of freedom between burning your stuff to disc! Unless you want to print big blow ups of your photos, shoot in a low JPEG quality, you don't need massive JPEGs if you want to publish them on the web as your holiday snaps!! I hope that has been of some use to you!!!

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