iPod's go bust at high altitudes?

Dr Funkenstein · May 23rd, 2005, 02:20

I think some people are just more susceptible to AMS, too.

And it tends to strike in a fairly indiscriminate way. Funnily enough, just prior to feeling rotten I'd been up to the Rohtang Pass (over 3000m I think) and only had a touch of breathlessness, so should've been well acclimatised.

machadinha · May 23rd, 2005, 02:33

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Originally Posted by wandering_kat

New Thread: Friendships go Bust at High Altitudes.....?

Ahem yes Kat, you watching my finer words now eh?

The nastiest thing was next morning we were all off on our separate ways so had no chance to make up. Thankfully we got to write later + settled it all. Ooff...

nagakrishna_s · May 23rd, 2005, 07:07

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/enc.../hard_disk.htm

this may help

xealot · May 23rd, 2005, 09:47

For all thoses people worrying about their mp3 players ... DON'T

Most mp3 players these days contain solid state memory (these can just about go through the wash without damage) but if your mp3 player is particularly heavy (you know that solid expensive feel the ipods have

) then it could be a good idea to check if it contains a hard drive instead.

xealot · May 23rd, 2005, 09:48

btw ... I'm not recommending you put your mp3 player in the wash, just pointing out how hardy solid state (flash) memory is

machadinha · May 23rd, 2005, 10:05

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Originally Posted by xealot

I'm not recommending you put your mp3 player in the wash

That's handy to know Xealot

Hey how are the bicycle plans going?

xealot · May 23rd, 2005, 10:42

It's gone really well ... I think I tired myself out after a while with all the planning and researching I was doing!

But I've got some great ideas and am at least in part going to follow my nose. I can't wait, just wish I had the money to pack up and leave right away!

vistet · May 23rd, 2005, 12:02

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Originally Posted by nagakrishna_s

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/enc.../hard_disk.htm

this may help

good article - thanx.

The neurotic´s (=my) solution to all of this would be to store the ipod in an airtight box when going over the high passes. Otterbox sells a basic storage box that seems to take all the iPods , or custom models that allows operation ( but not uploading photos).

claurianta · May 24th, 2005, 00:22

As for the solid state memory in most mp3 players and digital cameras (flash memory, memory sticks, etc); they've done various crazy tests with those, and they found that the data is still there even if you freeze it or boil it or throw it off a cliff. You'd have to run it over with a steam roller to really lose you data.

tinoo · May 24th, 2005, 01:04

I had my Ipod Mini in Leh last year, I had no problems. I was certainly at altitudes higher than 3000 m.

-tinoo

crvlvr · May 24th, 2005, 01:31

Does the iPod manual have some sort of disclaimer?

For example, iPods work on planes. "The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) requires all commercial airlines and many non-commercial planes to maintain a standard level of cabin pressure (kept at the equivalent of 5,000 to 8,000 feet, the altitude of Denver and other Rocky Mountain communities)"

So the iPod works at 8,000 feet but crashes at 10,000 ? I decided to investigate.. I looked up some specs for hard drives and they all have a max. of 10,000 feet (~3,000 mts)!

vistet · May 24th, 2005, 02:52

After all , ´puters work (most of the time) in Leh and Lhasa. I found a site that specialises in in expedition gear and they gave laptop recommendations for base camp use .. but they recommended a backup. They also sold standard PDA´s that have ben used on Everest ascents , so I think we can put the the blown-out LCD argument to rest (there are also a number of sites with road descriptions Manali-leh , made with GPSés) .

agni5454 · May 24th, 2005, 07:17

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Originally Posted by crvlvr

Does the iPod manual have some sort of disclaimer?
For example, iPods work on planes. "The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) requires all commercial airlines and many non-commercial planes to maintain a standard level of cabin pressure (kept at the equivalent of 5,000 to 8,000 feet, the altitude of Denver and other Rocky Mountain communities)"

You are right. Do you really want to know what happens to human body at low pressure? Its not very pretty.

Just ask a deep sea diver.

All commercial jets are pressurized (not sure about the PSI). The pressure inside the jet is usually higher than the pressure outside. This is exactly the same reason why guns are not a good idea to be carried on a plane (after 9-11 some people asked that air marshalls carry guns but it was deems unsafe as a small bullet hole accidentally fired by a gun can cause lose of pressure which could rip the plane's metal body.

Anyways, the cabins are pressurized and thats why the ipods work safely inside a plane. :-)

/Ending my Physics rant

vistet · May 24th, 2005, 13:05

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Originally Posted by agni5454

All commercial jets are pressurized (not sure about the PSI). The pressure inside the jet is usually higher than the pressure outside.

Actually they start at the ambient air pressure. Pressure is created by ... holes , in the forward direction. As long the plane is moving it can build up and maintain pressure.

The idea that the plane is a overpressurised bomb , ready to rip open from one puncture .... well I also saw Goldfinger , but still not convinced.

seventies'hippy · May 24th, 2005, 13:18

I'd worry more about silicon implants (if I had any) than my i-pod,,,,,,,,,

May 23rd, 2005, 02:20	#31
Dr Funkenstein Joolay !!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Manali, Himachal Pradesh Posts: 854	I think some people are just more susceptible to AMS, too. And it tends to strike in a fairly indiscriminate way. Funnily enough, just prior to feeling rotten I'd been up to the Rohtang Pass (over 3000m I think) and only had a touch of breathlessness, so should've been well acclimatised. __________________ Out There Somewhere : My Travel Blog.

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May 23rd, 2005, 09:47	#34
xealot Longing for India ... Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canberra Australia Posts: 195	For all thoses people worrying about their mp3 players ... DON'T Most mp3 players these days contain solid state memory (these can just about go through the wash without damage) but if your mp3 player is particularly heavy (you know that solid expensive feel the ipods have ) then it could be a good idea to check if it contains a hard drive instead. __________________ Laziness is not a real word! It's most literal translation is "Differing Priorities"

May 24th, 2005, 01:04	#40
tinoo Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 18	No problems in Leh I had my Ipod Mini in Leh last year, I had no problems. I was certainly at altitudes higher than 3000 m. -tinoo

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May 23rd, 2005, 09:48	#35
xealot Longing for India ... Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canberra Australia Posts: 195	btw ... I'm not recommending you put your mp3 player in the wash, just pointing out how hardy solid state (flash) memory is

May 23rd, 2005, 10:42	#37
xealot Longing for India ... Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canberra Australia Posts: 195	It's gone really well ... I think I tired myself out after a while with all the planning and researching I was doing! But I've got some great ideas and am at least in part going to follow my nose. I can't wait, just wish I had the money to pack up and leave right away!

May 24th, 2005, 00:22	#39
claurianta Global Nomad Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ottawa Posts: 121	As for the solid state memory in most mp3 players and digital cameras (flash memory, memory sticks, etc); they've done various crazy tests with those, and they found that the data is still there even if you freeze it or boil it or throw it off a cliff. You'd have to run it over with a steam roller to really lose you data.

May 24th, 2005, 01:31	#41
crvlvr Guru Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hollywood Posts: 4,393	Does the iPod manual have some sort of disclaimer? For example, iPods work on planes. "The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) requires all commercial airlines and many non-commercial planes to maintain a standard level of cabin pressure (kept at the equivalent of 5,000 to 8,000 feet, the altitude of Denver and other Rocky Mountain communities)" So the iPod works at 8,000 feet but crashes at 10,000 ? I decided to investigate.. I looked up some specs for hard drives and they all have a max. of 10,000 feet (~3,000 mts)!

May 24th, 2005, 02:52	#42
vistet Maha Guru Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Umeå , Sweden Posts: 1,714	After all , ´puters work (most of the time) in Leh and Lhasa. I found a site that specialises in in expedition gear and they gave laptop recommendations for base camp use .. but they recommended a backup. They also sold standard PDA´s that have ben used on Everest ascents , so I think we can put the the blown-out LCD argument to rest (there are also a number of sites with road descriptions Manali-leh , made with GPSés) .

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