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Old Jan 30th, 2008, 10:54   #76
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My broadband problems (of last 1 week) got resolved yesterday! I have been transferrred to a new MTNL Tel Exchange opened near here, at Vasant Vihar, Thane. Apparantly the transfer of some phone lines from Cherai Exch to the New Vasant Vihar exchange was the cause of the BB problem to start with! So hopefully its now sorted out. The Broad Band is working today at a roaring speed!

PS: I wish MTNL/BSNL had sent a letter to its subscribers, informing them of the planned shift dates? That could have saved me some worry and panic reactions (like reconfiguring & saving DSL settings )
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Old Jan 30th, 2008, 15:54   #77
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'The Man' is coming tonight - so yes, will pass on choice comments, on the other hand he is a very quiet studious individual, very polite so I feel tactful comments might be more appropriate. One thing he ought to know is if the light is orange or green.. it is the DSL light. He has another CD.. means USB connection then. I will ask re ethernet.
KS - wouldn't a letter or notice be nice?? Just not in the head of BSNL however. No consideration for users who pay, I just hope The Man comes early tonight not like last time didn't leave till 10.45 p.m. I was dying to go to sleep at that point!He does all these connections after his office hours evidently.
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Old Jan 30th, 2008, 22:14   #78
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Hi AiShah this link may be of interest to you :

http://broadbandforum.in/bsnl-dataon...-configration/
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Old Jan 31st, 2008, 05:19   #79
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KS - wouldn't a letter or notice be nice?? Just not in the head of BSNL however. No consideration for users who pay .......
Aishah ..... There is still a long a way to go ..... for us to become a *Developed* country ... (and, I am not a pessimist)... KS
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Old Jan 31st, 2008, 08:14   #80
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LOL, KS, and it's just the right country for us optimists to enjoy living in, isn't it?? There's always that enticing prospect that good results will come soon! And they do - in the end..
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Old Jan 31st, 2008, 10:35   #81
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Orange light for DSL on my MT800 'modem' meant it had authenticated.

Green for link, orange for authentication.

Different makes, different lamps, of course. My netgear doesn't differentiate, which is annoying; obviously I can't check the status at a glance. Serves me right for replacing cheap Chinese technology with expensive American technology!
(sigh)......couldn't you just throttle IT companies on occasions? The world over green means go/ good while red means stop/ error/ danger - so why chose amber for a status light? Why not make it pink and really confuse the hell out of people!

PS - my broadband is really bad today. Very slow and intermittent. Trace routes seem to indicate its the handover from Flagtel to UUnet in the states.
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Old Jan 31st, 2008, 10:44   #82
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(sigh)......couldn't you just throttle IT companies on occasions? The world over green means go/ good while red means stop/ error/ danger - so why chose amber for a status light? Why not make it pink and really confuse the hell out of people!

PS - my broadband is really bad today. Very slow and intermittent. Trace routes seem to indicate its the handover from Flagtel to UUnet in the states.
My MTNL Broadband in Mumbai is also very slow since y'day evening .... I heard from a friend, that he saw a news item on TV, that some under-Sea data cable is broken and so MTNL/BSNL & Relcomm (but not all coys) internet speeds are affected. More so in Delhi. Has anybody else seen this TV news items? any more details available?? .... KS
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My MTNL Broadband in Mumbai is also very slow since y'day evening .... I heard from a friend, that he saw a news item on TV, that some under-Sea data cable is broken and so MTNL/BSNL & Relcomm (but not all coys) internet speeds are affected. More so in Delhi. Has anybody else seen this TV news items? any more details available?? .... KS
I think you might be right ks. Mine has been going slow over the same period - but now its rocketing. Have done another traceroute - and the route to IM is different. Usually it goes VSNL to Teleflag - onto bbnet then the datahosting centre where IM is. Now its going VSNL - teleglobe - sprintlink - bbnet. The thing is - the response times from this route are better than the old route!
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I think you might be right ks. Mine has been going slow over the same period - but now its rocketing. Have done another traceroute - and the route to IM is different. Usually it goes VSNL to Teleflag - onto bbnet then the datahosting centre where IM is. Now its going VSNL - teleglobe - sprintlink - bbnet. The thing is - the response times from this route are better than the old route!
Hi brownboy: How do you route trace? And does knowing that useful?? Can one change that at user otion??? BTW: I am a layman ... if its too technical .... don't tell me.
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Hi brownboy: How do you route trace? And does knowing that useful?? Can one change that at user otion??? BTW: I am a layman ... if its too technical .... don't tell me.
not a problem at all KS (and I'm sure if Dilliwala were here - he'd be insisting that I answer).

Doing a traceroute is more a piece of mind exercise (you can't practically change the route your information takes). I tend to use it mostly as a fault finding exercise to rule out a problem with my PC, ethernet connection to the router, the router itself, the exchange, then the ISP.

If the connection problem lies in one of those areas above then there is something you can do about it (check your own connections, reboot the router, phone ISP helpdesk, that sort of thing). If its beyond the ISP - well, at least you know not to phone the ISP and complain to them as there is probably nothing they can do.

To give you an example - you're router will have within it two numbers for "DNS" settings. These are domain name servers - and are used on the internet to resolve an address like "www.indiamike.com" into an actually numerical address (in the case of IM - its 75.126.163.232) - which is what a browser is actually looking for. All internet service providers have 2x domain name servers - the reason being that if the first one fails, there is a backup and people can still browse. If an ISP is doing their job properly - the servers will be in geographically different locations (no use having both in the same location if say, there is a fire, flood, earthquake and it takes out both servers).

For MTNL - the recommended DNS settings are for one server in Delhi and one in Mumbai. On occasions when my MTNL connection has not been working - the Delhi DNS server is visable, but the Mumbai server has not been reachable. I can only conclude that all Delhi MTNL internet traffic is routed via Mumbai - so if the link to Mumbai is down then no internet access for delhi MTNL users.

So in relations to the current MTNL performance problem - past traceroutes I've done have shown the link to the US is carried by a telco called Teleglobe - then onto bbnet in the US. Teleglobe is an ex-canadian telco that was purchased by VSNL a couple of years ago (so obviously - BSNL/ VSNL are trying to use their own network as much as possible to get to the US). Current traceroutes are showing traffic going from Teleglobe to Sprint - and then BBnet. Can only conclude that Teleglobe might have a problem into the US - so have to link into Sprint to land traffic there (no telco likes paying another telco to use their network - so I can't imagine VSNL would use sprint by choice).

The traceroute programme I use is called 3d traceroute - its a freeware programme that also does a few other things as well.

Hope this helps.
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ok ks - you were right. Just found a story (funnily enough in NZ) about a cut undersea cable into the Mediterranean.....

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...tid=1048 9884

according to the article - the loss of the cable has meant a 50-60% loss of internet connectivity out of india.
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Yep... saw the story yesterday on vinuthomas.com.

Connection to European sites is dismal to zero.
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Following this with interest - I've had terrible trouble with connections until the last half an hour. Both dial-up and GPRS shocking. In the meanwhile I have lost all my Outlook synchronizing with Hotmail (don't know why) and will download when dial-up speed increases. It was down to 21.6kbps. GPRS is now sort of normal. Broadband man not showing up yet - supposed to have been here at 6.00p.m. Anything to do with what's being posted here??
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ok ks - you were right........ according to the article - the loss of the cable has meant a 50-60% loss of internet connectivity out of india.
Ok great that's explained then .... I was finding Indian sites like ICICI Bank / ICICI Direct etc. very fast .... but IM and Yahoo-Mail, ValueResearchOnline etc very very slow!

BTW: brownboy ... I am still reading (and even understanding quite a bit of) your "route trace" post. Tell me where to download that utility and instructions to use that... KS
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You have it in Windows already!

Run --->Command

and enter

C:\> trcroute nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn

No fancy graphics, but the information is there.
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